If You Were Joyously Anticipating The Demise Of The Democrat Party........

1. ......here is the danger the nation faces.
If we become the only party, watch out for the same from our side that we hated by them.

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Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.



2. Sometimes what seems like a great idea gets out of hand.


3. "Donald Trump’s designation of “antifa” as a “domestic terrorist organization” last week....Trump signed a national security policy memorandum called “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” known as NSPM-7.


4. ....NPSM-7 “directs a new national strategy to ‘disrupt’ any individual or groups ‘that foment political violence,’ including ‘before they result in violent political acts.’”




5. ....the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:

  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
  • Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime


IS this really how far we, who voted for Trump, want to go????????????????
I've said more than a couple of times on here that I fear the U.S. becoming a one-party system as Mexico was for a long time.

I've given the Democrats some helpful hints - and some tongue in cheek hints - about how to save their party.

But it is really very simple: There are MAGA Republicans who rely on the federal government, but cannot vote Democrat because of the worst excesses of their woke/DEI/Jihad/ANTIFA/illegal immigrant wing. Shut those people up for a while and talk about protecting federal benefits, and they can win again.

But they won't, because their lowest common denominator is in charge.
 
I've said more than a couple of times on here that I fear the U.S. becoming a one-party system as Mexico was for a long time.

I've given the Democrats some helpful hints - and some tongue in cheek hints - about how to save their party.

But it is really very simple: There are MAGA Republicans who rely on the federal government, but cannot vote Democrat because of the worst excesses of their woke/DEI/Jihad/ANTIFA/illegal immigrant wing. Shut those people up for a while and talk about protecting federal benefits, and they can win again.

But they won't, because their lowest common denominator is in charge.
There is no hope for the dimocrp party. It is dead. It is beyond help.

The few rational minds they had BB (beforebiden) have either left or been silenced.

The party is dead.

Their next iteration will be in communist/anarchist Mamdani and his followers. Along with the Ultimate Bimbo, AOC.

They will attempt to rule by Mob. IOW, the only way the dimocrap scum Mob will be silent is if one of their own criminals in charge. A'La the Admin of Sponge Brains Shits Pants.

Didn't hear about a lot of Mob violence during that Admin, didja? Think about it.

The best hope for America is to finish off the dimocrap scum party, because I'm telling you -- Their turn toward violence will only get worse.

Then, we will do what has to be done. And even Rats can be dangerous when cornered. And what will become of our Cities, where the actual filth and disease of the dimocrap scum party prevail?

dimocrap scum have shown time and again that, like the lowest of the low, if they can't control it, they'd rather destroy it. Like when Hitler ordered the Subways of Berlin flooded.

We are nearing the point of no return. Mark my words. We either stop them -Cold- in 2026 or what happens next may be out of our control.
 
And what to say to anyone being charged with a crime for these???


  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
Is there any documentation that any laws have been passed in this vein?
 
To who are you responding?

No one made any such claim.
He likes to randomly inject such posts into threads, hoping for “likes”. He rarely actually participates in the discussion
 
  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
  • Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime
All of these could also be described as anti-Constitutional, and thus fomenting violent revolution.
 
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Is there any documentation that any laws have been passed in this vein?
If the party we voted for is willing to stand for these excesses.....don't you see the problem?

Are you actually counting on an "impartial" judicial system????
 
All of these could also be described as anti-Constitutional, and thus fomenting violent revolution.
My fear as well.


The Founders formulated a government based on checks and balances.

Although they abjured political parties, it seems to me that we need same, also as checks on each other.
 
1. ......here is the danger the nation faces.
If we become the only party, watch out for the same from our side that we hated by them.

Online Library of Liberty
Online Library of Liberty › quotes › lord-acton-writes-to...
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.



2. Sometimes what seems like a great idea gets out of hand.


3. "Donald Trump’s designation of “antifa” as a “domestic terrorist organization” last week....Trump signed a national security policy memorandum called “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” known as NSPM-7.


4. ....NPSM-7 “directs a new national strategy to ‘disrupt’ any individual or groups ‘that foment political violence,’ including ‘before they result in violent political acts.’”




5. ....the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:

  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
  • Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime


IS this really how far we, who voted for Trump, want to go????????????????

The weekly "how can we save the Democrat Party" thread.
 
The weekly "how can we save the Democrat Party" thread.
I don't want to save the Democratic Party. I want to replace it with a party offering legitimate policy alternatives rather than pandering to victimization and personal grievances.
 
1. ......here is the danger the nation faces.
If we become the only party, watch out for the same from our side that we hated by them.

Online Library of Liberty
Online Library of Liberty › quotes › lord-acton-writes-to...
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.



2. Sometimes what seems like a great idea gets out of hand.


3. "Donald Trump’s designation of “antifa” as a “domestic terrorist organization” last week....Trump signed a national security policy memorandum called “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” known as NSPM-7.


4. ....NPSM-7 “directs a new national strategy to ‘disrupt’ any individual or groups ‘that foment political violence,’ including ‘before they result in violent political acts.’”




5. ....the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:

  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
  • Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime


IS this really how far we, who voted for Trump, want to go????????????????
You perfectly described my my number one argument with my pro-Trump family members. Trump is hazardous to the continuation of the Republic and the Nation

His number focus should be on implementing DOGE cuts, making peace and making an alliance with China and India

I’m paying close attention to the man behind the curtain. He has a limited and quickly dwindling window of opportunity to get us back on track and he’s Schruting it

Antifa and Miami Vice boats off Venezuela are ridiculous priorities.
 
I don't want to save the Democratic Party. I want to replace it with a party offering legitimate policy alternatives rather than pandering to victimization and personal grievances.

Not going to happen.
 
You perfectly described my my number one argument with my pro-Trump family members. Trump is hazardous to the continuation of the Republic and the Nation

His number focus should be on implementing DOGE cuts, making peace and making an alliance with China and India

I’m paying close attention to the man behind the curtain. He has a limited and quickly dwindling window of opportunity to get us back on track and he’s Schruting it

Antifa and Miami Vice boats off Venezuela are ridiculous priorities.
He was the right man at the right time......imagine if the Democrats had won.


It is aways a choice between two.....and he was the correct choice.


If, now, you have a better choice.....let's see a name. One poster opined that there will be two major parties....Trump's and what appears to be your choice....Musk's.


For me, it was never about money.....it was about freedom.


Perhaps you recall this tale:


The Dog and the Wolf
A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.
Aesop
 
He was the right man at the right time......imagine if the Democrats had won.


It is aways a choice between two.....and he was the correct choice.


If, now, you have a better choice.....let's see a name. One poster opined that there will be two major parties....Trump's and what appears to be your choice....Musk's.


For me, it was never about money.....it was about freedom.


Perhaps you recall this tale:


The Dog and the Wolf
A gaunt Wolf was almost dead with hunger when he happened to meet a House-dog who was passing by. "Ah, Cousin," said the Dog. "I knew how it would be; your irregular life will soon be the ruin of you. Why do you not work steadily as I do, and get your food regularly given to you?"

"I would have no objection," said the Wolf, "if I could only get a place."

"I will easily arrange that for you," said the Dog; "come with me to my master and you shall share my work."

So the Wolf and the Dog went towards the town together. On the way there the Wolf noticed that the hair on a certain part of the Dog's neck was very much worn away, so he asked him how that had come about.

"Oh, it is nothing," said the Dog. "That is only the place where the collar is put on at night to keep me chained up; it chafes a bit, but one soon gets used to it."

"Is that all?" said the Wolf. "Then good-bye to you, Master Dog."

Better starve free than be a fat slave.
Aesop
Agreed!

But we should aim higher and insist on better than “not as bad”

I’d love to have 250 Thomas Massies in the House and 58 Ron Pauls in the Senate with Calvin Coolidge as POTUS.

Not as bad is taking the local to calamity rather than the express
 
Agreed!

But we should aim higher and insist on better than “not as bad”

I’d love to have 250 Thomas Massies in the House and 58 Ron Pauls in the Senate with Calvin Coolidge as POTUS.

Not as bad is taking the local to calamity rather than the express
You plays the hand that's dealt you.

It was Harris or Trump.

That's it.


The ones you named weren't/wont be running.
 
You plays the hand that's dealt you.

It was Harris or Trump.

That's it.


The ones you named weren't/wont be running.
Especially not when the RNC and Trump determines that Massie and Paul’s insistence on fiscal sanity represents an existential threat to the Grift Machine

I said it before if Trump were serious, he’d warn Congress that this is the last CR he’ll sign. Present budgets or go home

I won’t celebrate Republicans because they’re only 98% as corrupt as democrats
 
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1. ......here is the danger the nation faces.
If we become the only party, watch out for the same from our side that we hated by them.

Online Library of Liberty
Online Library of Liberty › quotes › lord-acton-writes-to...
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.



2. Sometimes what seems like a great idea gets out of hand.


3. "Donald Trump’s designation of “antifa” as a “domestic terrorist organization” last week....Trump signed a national security policy memorandum called “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,” known as NSPM-7.


4. ....NPSM-7 “directs a new national strategy to ‘disrupt’ any individual or groups ‘that foment political violence,’ including ‘before they result in violent political acts.’”




5. ....the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:

  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
  • Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime


IS this really how far we, who voted for Trump, want to go????????????????
Can't we find a happy medium?

Can anybody name anything ANTIFA has made better? That can be counted as a positive? But a group that threatens, terrorizes, burns, assaults, vandalizes, destroys, blocks passage on public sidewalks, streets, highways, bridges etc., certainly could be designated a terrorist organization. I have no problem with that characterization for ANTIFA.

Has Trump really seriously suggested all anti-Trump, anti-American, anti-GOP or whatever groups should be designated terrorist groups? Or is that propaganda promoted along with their defense of ANTIFA?

Somewhere in there is the right balance for all this.
 
Especially not when the RNC and Trump determines that Massie and Paul’s insistence on fiscal sanity represents an existential threat to the Grift Machine

I said it before if Trump were serious, he’d warn Congress that this is the last CR he’ll sign. Present budgets or go home

I won’t celebrate Republicans because they’re only 98% as corrupt as democrats
"I won’t celebrate Republicans because they’re only 98% as corrupt as democrats"

Pleeeeeeeeeezzzzzzze.


This is a political system in which we vote for the one CLOSEST to one's wishes....it has nothing to do with celebrating any politician.
If you are unhappy, write an OP, as this one.

That's why I vote based on freedom....and use it in this manner.

I'm always willing to be challenged on an opinion.
 
If the party we voted for is willing to stand for these excesses.....don't you see the problem?
Sure, but in order to be charged with a crime, there has to be that crime statute on the books...

Are you actually counting on an "impartial" judicial system????
While I believe that our judicial system is definitely broken, and many judges on the left are abusing the powers of their office, by injecting partisanship into their decisions, I believe we have to hold out hope that our system is strong enough to endure this phase.
 
Can't we find a happy medium?

Can anybody name anything ANTIFA has made better? That can be counted as a positive? But a group that threatens, terrorizes, burns, assaults, vandalizes, destroys, blocks passage on public sidewalks, streets, highways, bridges etc., certainly could be designated a terrorist organization. I have no problem with that characterization for ANTIFA.

Has Trump really seriously suggested all anti-Trump, anti-American, anti-GOP or whatever groups should be designated terrorist groups? Or is that propaganda promoted along with their defense of ANTIFA?

Somewhere in there is the right balance for all this.
I don't like the tone, the suggestion of targetting folks with alternative opinions.

So when I saw the article I've quoted, I wrote this OP.


I never said ANTIFA was positive in any way.


But this is dangerous to freedom:

4. ....NPSM-7 “directs a new national strategy to ‘disrupt’ any individual or groups ‘that foment political violence,’ including ‘before they result in violent political acts.’”



5. ....the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:

  • anti-Americanism,
  • anti-capitalism,
  • anti-Christianity,
  • support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
  • extremism on migration,
  • extremism on race,
  • extremism on gender
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
  • hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality."
  • Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime


IS this really how far we, who voted for Trump, want to go????????????????
 
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