If you think taxes should be raised...

[midcan5]

midcan5, still nothing?
Are you having a hard time?
Maybe mommy can help.

Seriously, how old are you? 12? You don't answer with any thing substantive and then you answer as a five year would. And then you copy my reply! I already said my taxes can go up and they can have bush's reduction back and they can make it retroactive. But I am among the lucky ones, I argue that people like myself and others above me, pay more taxes, as I see the waste and I see my children's infrastructure falling apart. If we can fund bombs to kill, we can fund UHC and education completely for a start.

 

[mattskramer]

Real simple – I think that taxes should be raised on everyone but me. It seems a bit socialistic, but when CEOs make in 10 minutes what it takes some people a year to earn – it seems like something is wrong.

 

[Paulie]

Real simple – I think that taxes should be raised on everyone but me. It seems a bit socialistic, but when CEOs make in 10 minutes what it takes some people a year to earn – it seems like something is wrong.

But see, how much CEO's make is no business of the federal government. Sure, it sucks, but it's not for the government to fix.

The beauty of the capitalist free market society is, YOU can be that CEO making those millions, if you really want it bad enough.

 

[mattskramer]

But see, how much CEO's make is no business of the federal government. Sure, it sucks, but it's not for the government to fix.

The beauty of the capitalist free market society is, YOU can be that CEO making those millions, if you really want it bad enough.

If you are not mentally and/or physically handicapped, if you are born into a family that has connections, if you can afford to go to the right school – there are many variables to consider.

 

[Annie]

Yes. If not, what is it for. Law does that by proxy.


M14 Shooter, I pay my fair share and they can raise them as well. Doing the action you suggest is only a silly rhetorical question to deflect the real issue.

Well in my opinion the government exists to provide security and protect against threats to personal liberties, from within and without. Seems to me you are looking for government to impose your vision of what we should all want.

 

[jillian]

But see, how much CEO's make is no business of the federal government. Sure, it sucks, but it's not for the government to fix.

Well, certainly they can't tell them not to give golden parachutes or pay people absurd amounts of money, but you absolutey CAN tell them they have to pay benefits and a living wage to their workers. See how easy that is.

The beauty of the capitalist free market society is, YOU can be that CEO making those millions, if you really want it bad enough.

You still believe in Santa Claus, too, don't you?

 

[jreeves]

Really? Hmmmmmmm... seems to indicate here that the cut off is 39 years, 364 days.. unless its changed.

http://www.1800goguard.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-557.html

And if the guard doesn't work, maybe Haliburton has some positions. I hear you get $1,000 a day for driving stuff around. Go to it! Don't be afraid, man!

LOL...it's funny keep grasping at those straws

 

[jreeves]

Reagan baloney still lives in the minds of some.

Do this, just consider your taxes are only used for bombs and bullets, that should make you happy about money well spent.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfarequeen.htm

HEY WAKE UP!!! Your sleeping, I see people abusing the welfare system everyday. But I don't see why we fund this shit. If you really care about people in poverty you don't just keep throwing money at it. All that does is create more poverty. People actually pass up on jobs because they would be disqualified for public assistance. Where is there a freaking incentative to get a job, if they can make it better on public assistance than on a minimum wage job? You have to want to help yourself before anyone else can help you. When is enough, enough.....680 billion isn't enough money in the budget for social spending, what do you suggest the whole federal budget? 680 billion dollars is from last year alone, that is pratically the same as the entire cost of the Iraq war.

 

[Gunny]

Reagan baloney still lives in the minds of some.

Do this, just consider your taxes are only used for bombs and bullets, that should make you happy about money well spent.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfarequeen.htm

I'd be happy about my money well-spent if *I* was the one spending it since I am the one earning it.

 

[jreeves]

If you are not mentally and/or physically handicapped, if you are born into a family that has connections, if you can afford to go to the right school – there are many variables to consider.

Matt, wouldn't that be covered by Social Security? Oh you mean, the same system that's going to go bankrupt without intervention?

 

[Gunny]

That's an irrelevant question. As with all conservative thought it substitutes rhetoric for governance or process. Suppose for the sake of argument I did send extra money, or suppose I simply answered yes, I do. Have we solved much? Would that answer address the fundamental problem of how a society manages itself and attempts to create a moral universe comfortable for all. Taxes are the oil that creates the infrastructure that supports us all. And they can have my tax reduction back today.

Problem is, your idea of "moral universe" and "comfotable for all" might not necessarily reflect mine nor anyone else's. But that has no place in your pseudo-intellectually superior mind, does it?

You just have no problem stealing from those who earn and redistributing it to those who don't. That's the bottom line.

 

[jreeves]

If you are not mentally and/or physically handicapped, if you are born into a family that has connections, if you can afford to go to the right school – there are many variables to consider.

How can some people do it then without those connections, or who have to work a full time job to pay for school.....Success isn't easy but it is attainable if you work hard enough.

 

[mattskramer]

How can some people do it then without those connections, or who have to work a full time job to pay for school.....Success isn't easy but it is attainable if you work hard enough.

If you don’t put your trust in deceptive (if not fraudulent) companies and CEOs like Ken Lay of Enron. If you are lucky – if you have the money to go to the right school.

 

[jreeves]

If you don’t put your trust in deceptive (if not fraudulent) companies and CEOs like Ken Lay of Enron. If you are lucky – if you have the money to go to the right school.

No, that's BS, you can go to community college and work. It's not easy but it can be done, I'm a prime example. There are tons of scholarships that working students can get to help pay for a four year degree. Again, I am a prime example. People who don't want to work their ass off, won't succeed if they come from a disadvataged background. But you can definitely do it with hard work. What the heck does CEO's have to do with Socialism?

 

[pegwinn]

Well, certainly they can't tell them not to give golden parachutes or pay people absurd amounts of money, but you absolutey CAN tell them they have to pay benefits and a living wage to their workers. See how easy that is.

You still believe in Santa Claus, too, don't you?

First question: Where is it enumerated that Congress gets to mandate "pay benefits and a living wage"? If it is not specifically enumerated, then which passage applies and what is your throught process on gettting from the written word to the part I put in quotes.

Also, today on the radio I heard a talk show host ranting since Congress is now holding hearings questioning why CEO's get paid so much.

This is the kind of nonsense that gets me steamed at the .gov on a semipermanent basis.


BTW, y'all leave them illegals alone. Why....... they're doing the job that Americans on welfare won't do.

 

[element1286]

I am 21 years old and a college student. I believe that government should interfere with people's lives as little as possible. That being said, there are many things that the government should not be running. In no particular order they are, retirement benefits (i.e Social Security), welfare, or health care. I also believe that there are programs that are good for the country. There should be some sort of help for disability and temporary unemployment.

First, Social Security is a scam. Why does the government need to save money for its citizens. People should be able to do what they want with their money, if they want to spend it or save it. But either way the government should not get any of it. Social Security should be fazed out and be not more taxes should be taken from people who will not benefit from it. I am 21 and the government cannot guarantee that my money will be there when I need it in 40 - 50 years.

Second is welfare. This program can be combined with unemployment and give people an incentive to work. If people can't find a job to better their lives, then they do not deserve anything from me. People also must be actively searching for a job during the time they are on this program.

Third, universal healthcare. It is impossible to pay for, there are too many people in the United States to cover. It works in smaller European countries because of their small size, and limited population diversity. Private companies are always more efficient than the government can ever hope to be. If people can't pay for insurance, give people who don't get it through work tax credits to help offset the payment.

Programs that are good for the country, would be a combination welfare/unemployment program as well as some sort of assistance for disabled people. As far as a disability program, a more efficient Medicaid program would be sufficient.

With decreased taxes more people would have more money to save. The economy would increase because more money would be available to the consumer. People could save for college, homes, retirement. Government intervention is the answer to few problems.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Since FDR the Government has been seizing illegally more and more powers it simply does not have. Jillian justifies it by claiming that there is a " General Welfare" clause that means the Government has no limits at all. She of course can not explain why there are in fact specific powers delegated in the Constitution when all one needs is that " general Welfare" clause she claims covers everything.

 

[JeffWartman]

Since FDR the Government has been seizing illegally more and more powers it simply does not have. Jillian justifies it by claiming that there is a " General Welfare" clause that means the Government has no limits at all. She of course can not explain why there are in fact specific powers delegated in the Constitution when all one needs is that " general Welfare" clause she claims covers everything.

And GWB has done everything in his power to ensure that continues.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Seriously, how old are you? 12? You don't answer with any thing substantive and then you answer as a five year would.

I already said my taxes can go up and they can have bush's reduction back and they can make it retroactive.

You havent said why you dont voluntarily pay more to the IRS?
Why do you talk the talk, but then refuse to walk the walk?
Why are you loathe to do what you expect that others should be forced to do?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Real simple – I think that taxes should be raised on everyone but me. It seems a bit socialistic, but when CEOs make in 10 minutes what it takes some people a year to earn – it seems like something is wrong.

I see you've fallen for Obama's Big Lie.

If the average worker's salary is $30K/yr, that means the salary for the CEOs Obama is talking about has a salary of $374M/yr

How many of those can you find, and are they indicative of CEOs in general?

Or, is Obama guilty of cherry picking information for political gain -- if not lying outright -- expecting you to unquestioningly swallow it and ask for more?