If You, The People want to turn thousands of criminals into taxpayers overnight,

[AVG-JOE]

The stats about incarceration for pot are bogus. Anyone in prison for possession usually has several prior convictions and/or was convicted on an additional charge. Are there any real numbers out there? How about an honest discussion about that?

Be honest with ya, I'm not really in this discussion for the smoke, I'm in it for the untaxed industry. It's not fair to all the other industries, most of which are small enough to have very little influence over the tax code and DO pay taxes.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Legalize pot.


Losing The War on Drugs - Global - The Atlantic Wire


Probably put a good size dent in the bloodshed along the southern border, too.

What you suggest is very sensible and logical, therefore, we can't expect our government to deliver.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Fine just don't ask us to pick up your medical tab.

Do you think the tab for prosecuting the drug war is less than the potential medical tab if drugs were legal? If so you have a big surprise coming.

You need to do some basic research on the cost of arresting, prosecuting and confining Americans for drug offenses. Look up the cost of police activity, the court costs and, above all, the cost of confinement. Because as it is our per capita prison census is much greater than that of China, Russia and North Korea.

We have more than two million Americans in our prisons, more than half of whom are in for drug offenses and the average cost of confinement is around $45k per inmate, per year. Add to that the residual cost of ruined lives because of unnecessary criminal records. Ex-convicts are virtually unemployable and become a burden on society in one way or another.

Even if everyone who used legalized drugs ended up in an emergency room, which is about a 99% exaggerated hypothesis, the cost would be considerably less than waging the war on drugs. Considerably less.

Let's make it simple shall we? Legalize them if you want to,, put the drug lords out of business.. just don't bill me for you medical catastrophes that will ensue. You guys have it all figured out down the the tee. So put your money where your mouth is. Legalize drugs,, free up the cops and the hospitals. don't come whining to us when you need help with your drug related problems.. deal with them on your own. Now that's a big boy.

Back the truck up Willow. This thread started out and continues to be about legalizing pot, not drugs in general.

Let's bring the weed industry out from the black market and see what happens.

I'll bet you a beer that doing so will no more herald the demise of Western 'Civilization' than the repeal of the 18th Amendment did back in '33.

 

[oreo]

You suggesting they arent paying taxes now?

Hmmmm, all cash business, no reporting, murder the competition, historical examples like Al Capone...

O.k., yeah... I'll go out on a limb with out a link and say that yes, pot dealers don't pay taxes.



Can the same be said for the producers & dealers of legal party supplies like Miller and Jack Daniels? I think you'll find it pretty easy to prove that they pay as much in taxes as our fucked up tax code demands of any legal corporations.

Violent Mexican drug lords don't pay taxes. Colorado is the 1st state that has regulated the medical marijuana industry--and collected 21 MILLION dollars in new state tax revenue just last year. It's also created alot of private sector jobs--and filled our city cofers with new tax revenue also.

It's really silly to throw people in jail over marijuana--as there has never been anyone who has overdosed on marijuana--it certainly doesn't deserve the title of a schedule 1 drug right up there with meth--crack-cocain and herion. Alcohol--tobacco and prescription pain pills are much more dangerous.

The largest lobbyist against the use of medical marijuana is none other than the pharmacutical industry in this country--and for good reason. Any corporation would get the hibbee-geebees--if there was something you could grow in your backyard that could wipe out half of your medicine cabinet--and without any side effects.

 

[Jack Fate]

The Tea Pot Party.

 

[FA_Q2]

Fine just don't ask us to pick up your medical tab.

Do you think the tab for prosecuting the drug war is less than the potential medical tab if drugs were legal? If so you have a big surprise coming.

You need to do some basic research on the cost of arresting, prosecuting and confining Americans for drug offenses. Look up the cost of police activity, the court costs and, above all, the cost of confinement. Because as it is our per capita prison census is much greater than that of China, Russia and North Korea.

We have more than two million Americans in our prisons, more than half of whom are in for drug offenses and the average cost of confinement is around $45k per inmate, per year. Add to that the residual cost of ruined lives because of unnecessary criminal records. Ex-convicts are virtually unemployable and become a burden on society in one way or another.

Even if everyone who used legalized drugs ended up in an emergency room, which is about a 99% exaggerated hypothesis, the cost would be considerably less than waging the war on drugs. Considerably less.

Let's make it simple shall we? Legalize them if you want to,, put the drug lords out of business.. just don't bill me for you medical catastrophes that will ensue. You guys have it all figured out down the the tee. So put your money where your mouth is. Legalize drugs,, free up the cops and the hospitals. don't come whining to us when you need help with your drug related problems.. deal with them on your own. Now that's a big boy.

This is asinine. You already pay MASSIVE amounts for the prosecution, imprisonment and enforcement of those drugs not to mention the crime that follows a black market and the border problems that we have from illegal drug trafficking. On top of all that, you already pay the EXACT same medical costs that you would if it were legal. Face it; there is ZERO argument for keeping pot illegal. Legalize virtually everything; it cannot be controlled until we do.

 

[AVG-JOE]

The Tea Pot Party.

And it's a thread started by an Indian dressed like an American..... Coincidence?