If you do Not Support Ukraine Ceding Territory to Russia to End the War and the Killing, What is Your Plan?

[Zavulon]

At last! An Answer, thanks!

Now, what will the Russians do after we kill (Ukraine and Russia) 500,000 more of them?

Will they do what they recently announced that they would do?

Putin approves changes to Russia's nuclear doctrine

He has rubber stamped changes that were first proposed in September.

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Yes. Actually, I believe that Russia will use nukes when Russian estimations of the possible losses in a "conventional" conflict will be more or less close to 1 mln soldiers and civilians. Of course it won't be a murder-suicide, it, highly-likely, will be a counter-force strike to wipe out US strategic forces.

 

[ThirdTerm]

In the TV interview, Zelensky spoke about the possibility of temporarily abandoning territories occupied by Russia in order to secure a ceasefire if Ukraine joins NATO.

 

[Zavulon]

So, Ukraine agrees to stop killing Russians and gets nothing in return

Screw Ukraine. It's gone. Think about Ukrainians.

What Ukraine is giving Russia is a rest period to rebuild their forces and replace their equipment for future invasions

And what Russia is giving Ukrainains is a priceless opportunity to participate in rebuilding Russian forces and in future Russian invasions.
And yes, this is exactly why Russia won't gove the West any possible of a "cheasefire" to allow rebuild Ukrainian and NATO forces.

 

[Zavulon]

In the TV interview, Zelensky spoke about the possibility of temporarily abandoning territories occupied by Russia in order to secure a ceasefire if Ukraine joins NATO.

Technically, according Ukrainian "laws" he just commited an act of a high treason, for wich a lot of good Ukrainian citizens were tortured and murdered.

 

[Mac-7]

And, also, Ukraine gave the promise to be a neutral country. It was written it its constitution. And Russia didn't invide post-1993 Ukraine. Russia "invaded" post-2014 and post-2022 Ukraine.

Russia invaded because it looked like an easy win

 

[AlexanderPK]

They are the same ethnicity. I have a different view. My partner's parents were from Kiev. They always considered themselves Russian. The ones who wanted independence were Nazis who wanted to strip the Russians living in Ukraine of their language, religion and heritage.

We hear only what is approved for us to hear. Not enough to make a fully informed decision. Russia will not idly let Ukraine join NATO. They will burn the world to a cinder first.

What's with the thought of carpet bombing Moscow then if what you're saying now sounds perfectly sane?

 

[rightwinger]

And what Russia is giving Ukrainains is a priceless opportunity to participate in rebuilding Russian forces and in future Russian invasions.
And yes, this is exactly why Russia won't gove the West any possible of a "cheasefire" to allow rebuild Ukrainian and NATO forces.

Putin has overplayed his hand and depleted his once feared Army.
He has lost most of his tanks and has resorted to using 40 year old Soviet equipment. His Black Sea fleet has been chased out. His forces are depleted and poorly trained with poor morale.

This “peace” will allow Russia to restore its forces and prepare for the next invasion

 

[rightwinger]

No. It's not about taking anything. It's about safety of Russian people. "Don't kill us, or we'll kill you".

Russia is not being invaded

 

[Deadstick]

In the TV interview, Zelensky spoke about the possibility of temporarily abandoning territories occupied by Russia in order to secure a ceasefire if Ukraine joins NATO.

The moron is still delusional.

 

[Deadstick]

Russia is not being invaded

It's being attacked on many fronts in a hybrid war and has been for years.

 

[Deadstick]

Putin has overplayed his hand and depleted his once feared Army.
He has lost most of his tanks and has resorted to using 40 year old Soviet equipment. His Black Sea fleet has been chased out. His forces are depleted and poorly trained with poor morale.

This “peace” will allow Russia to restore its forces and prepare for the next invasion

Delusional with the same war propaganda, those Hypersonic shovels and washing machines are doing just fine.

 

[rightwinger]

It's being attacked on many fronts in a hybrid war and has been for years.

Russia invaded a sovereign country without provocation

They are paying the price

 

[Deadstick]

I am happy you mentioned the Ukrainians connection to Islamist head hacking terrorists.

 

[Deadstick]

sure ivan sure , dream on war - criminal (Tha Hague)
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the reality >
Moscow horde´s war record :-

1856 defeated by Britain and France

1905 defeated by Japan

1917 defeated by Germany

1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states

1939 defeated by Finland

1969 defeated by China

1989 defeated by Afghanistan

1989 defeated in the Cold War.

1996 defeated by Chechnya

2022 defeated by Ukraine

WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn

Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-

a) Hungary 1956

b) Czechoslovakia 1968

c) Moldova 1992

d) Georgia 2008

meanwhile Turkey

Syria’s rebels exploit weaknesses in Moscow&Iran’s proxies to launch surprise offensive. Can Saddam Putsein save a war-criminal Assad again?

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Look at that shiny new Mitsubishi, looks like the terror franchise has changed from Toyota.

 

[Litwin]

I am happy you mentioned the Ukrainians connection to Islamist head hacking terrorists.

your empire are the worst terrorist gang out there

 

[Litwin]

Look at that shiny new Mitsubishi, looks like the terror franchise has changed from Toyota.

Turkey pays , much like your empire pays Assad´s bills 15 years

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What's with the thought of carpet bombing Moscow then if what you're saying now sounds perfectly sane?

Does it disturb you that some Ukrainians think of themselves as ethnically Russian?

 

[Zavulon]

Russia invaded because it looked like an easy win

Who said you this? Putin himself?

 

[Zavulon]

Does it disturb you that some Ukrainians think of themselves as ethnically Russian?

Does it disturb you that some Californians think of themselves as ethnically Americans? If yes, why?

 

[Mac-7]

Who said you this? Putin himself?

I said it