If you do Not Support Ukraine Ceding Territory to Russia to End the War and the Killing, What is Your Plan?

Russia will never agree
never say never, 1917-1991 :popcorn:

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Russia will never agree
Why would they agree to Ukraine being protected?
Why should Ukraine surrender territory without assurances there will not be another attack?

Ukraine does not want to give up Donbas
Russia does not want Ukraine in NATO

Price of peace
 
Why would they agree to Ukraine being protected?
Why should Ukraine surrender territory without assurances there will not be another attack?

Ukraine does not want to give up Donbas
Russia does not want Ukraine in NATO

Price of peace
Ukraines citizens want peace. War fatigue. Russia will never cave.
 
Ukraines citizens want peace. War fatigue. Russia will never cave.
They want peace but they also want security
Russia entered a war they can’t win
Getting Donbas is a win for them and they save face
 
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine gave up its stockpile of nuclear weapons on the assurance that the West would protect them. That didn’t happen.
The West gave promises not to expand NATO eastward and, later, when they violated that promise they gave the promise not to establish permanent foreign bases on the territory of the new NATO members.
And Ukraine gave promises not to disriminate Russian people and Russian language and not to join other military alliances.

There are always at least two sides guilty in a conflict. And in this conflict those guilty sides are NATO and Ukraine.
The biggest threat to NATO has always been USSR/Russia
Really? NATO was created much later after Russia. Some thousand years later. It is NATO a threat for Russia.


In return for surrendering territory to Russia, they should receive NATO membership to prevent future invasions
No. Russia won't allow NATO's expansion to Ukraine, even if it means direct nuclear war against NATO and USA.
 
Who knows for sure?

Via the BBC:

“ Even the number being deployed - originally put at around 11,000 by the Pentagon - has been debated. According to Bloomberg, unnamed sources believe Pyongyang may actually deploy as many as 100,000 troops.”
Didn't you say you had diversity or inclusivity? Why the hell of all the variables to pick from you always choose the sewer?
 
Didn't you say you had diversity or inclusivity? Why the hell of all the variables to pick from you always choose the sewer?
Whatever that means

You may understand it but I dont
 
Stop the killing, stop the corruption and cronyism in Ukraine, stop UN expansion, above all make the US a broker for real peace and not a war pimp. You can't work for peace if you are bankrupting your own country shipping arms to every shithole on the earth. We have no credibility in the world. Let local disputes resolve themselves and quit that Hitler/Nazi bullshit to justify war crimes. Lead by example, and make the US a respected country again and not just feared just for our violent tendencies.
 
Do you gave a free press in your country?

Here we have a variety of opinions
Your words?
Via the BBC:

“ Even the number being deployed - originally put at around 11,000 by the Pentagon - has been debated. According to Bloomberg, unnamed sources believe Pyongyang may actually deploy as many as 100,000 troops
The sewer.
What's not to understand?
 
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