If you are "certain" human overpopulation is not the cause of fires globally, then tell us what is....

[westwall]

You are either a complete moron or a total fraud of a "conservative."

Greenland froze while North America thawed. How did the Sun do that??

It didn't. Dummy.

 

[EMH]

It didn't. Dummy.

Documented over and over here.



2 million years ago northern Greenland completely green

Discovery of 2-million-year-old DNA in Greenland reveals new details about ancient life

Scientists working in Greenland identified the oldest samples of DNA ever found on earth. By analyzing the two-million year old genetic material, they’ve revealed how northern Greenland was once a wildly different environment than the cold, polar region it is today. Project researcher Eske...

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400-800k years ago center of Greenland went from forest to ice age

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

Vikings farmed the southern tip until the 1400s when advancing ice age glacier froze them off...


North America still had some glacier from North American Ice Age as recent as 10k years ago...

indiana glaciers 10k years ago - Google Search

www.google.com

10k, 20k, 1 million years - take your pick - GREENLAND FROZE while NORTH AMERICA THAWED

All of the "narrative" in the Google links is McBullshit, which is outed as wrong and fraud on both poles... but those links have data and there were glaciers in Indiana 10k years ago that are not only gone, the ice north of them is all gone too, all of Canada...

The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

www.usmessageboard.com

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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[Mikeoxenormous]

According to RFKjr, there is a new species of grass not native to Hawaii that was piling up ready to burn, so "plant mismanagement" is certainly there.

But in 1931 Hawaii reached its record high temperature and nothing burned. The burning is only after Hawaii's human population grew more than 10 fold....

Supposedly a power line went down, and that was enough to get the fire going..

 

[westwall]

Documented over and over here.



2 million years ago northern Greenland completely green

Discovery of 2-million-year-old DNA in Greenland reveals new details about ancient life

Scientists working in Greenland identified the oldest samples of DNA ever found on earth. By analyzing the two-million year old genetic material, they’ve revealed how northern Greenland was once a wildly different environment than the cold, polar region it is today. Project researcher Eske...

www.pbs.org

400-800k years ago center of Greenland went from forest to ice age

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

Vikings farmed the southern tip until the 1400s when advancing ice age glacier froze them off...


North America still had some glacier from North American Ice Age as recent as 10k years ago...

indiana glaciers 10k years ago - Google Search

www.google.com

10k, 20k, 1 million years - take your pick - GREENLAND FROZE while NORTH AMERICA THAWED

All of the "narrative" in the Google links is McBullshit, which is outed as wrong and fraud on both poles... but those links have data and there were glaciers in Indiana 10k years ago that are not only gone, the ice north of them is all gone too, all of Canada...

The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

www.usmessageboard.com

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

www.usmessageboard.com

No, it isn't. Earth warmed. North America warmed faster than Greenland because it is further south, thus absorbing more Sunlight.

Full stop.

That's what happened.

 

[EMH]

Supposedly a power line went down, and that was enough to get the fire going..

The difference between Hawaii this year and Hawaii 50 to a million years ago is that this time Hawaii had tons and tons of dry vegetation waiting to burn, and in the past it never did.

The question is why was Hawaii so filled with dry ready to burn foliage?

Power line, match, hot crack pipe, those would've done nothing to Hawaii in the past. This burned the whole island of Maui.

Hawaii vegetation was dry beyond any past reference. The reason why is humans on Hawaii are sucking up too much fresh water.

 

[EMH]

North America warmed faster than Greenland because it is further south

Tectonic plate movement is beyond your capacity...

Greenland froze while North America thawed, and the Co2/Sun idiots cannot accept that truth, but it is the indisputable data. Greenland is today where North America was 30-50 million years ago, and that is why North America went into continent specific ice age then, and only within the past 100k years did it really fully exit, except Ellesmere Island, which is still in ice age, because it is still within 600 miles of the pole, while nothing else on North America is.

The fault in the center bottom of the Atlantic is pushing Greenland NW and North America SW at the same time, which is actually the same vector... on a sphere.

The only difference is that the Arctic Ocean is also growing, so Greenland will not stay in ice age as long as North America did, but it is there now, and it manufactures a new ice layer every year, it will be around for a very long time.

From 15-50 million years ago, North America was further north than Greenland.

 

[EMH]

Earth warmed

 

[westwall]

Yes, you are indeed a parrot. And a fascist.

Not a good mix, Skippy.

 

[westwall]

Tectonic plate movement is beyond your capacity...

Greenland froze while North America thawed, and the Co2/Sun idiots cannot accept that truth, but it is the indisputable data. Greenland is today where North America was 30-50 million years ago, and that is why North America went into continent specific ice age then, and only within the past 100k years did it really fully exit, except Ellesmere Island, which is still in ice age, because it is still within 600 miles of the pole, while nothing else on North America is.

The fault in the center bottom of the Atlantic is pushing Greenland NW and North America SW at the same time, which is actually the same vector... on a sphere.

The only difference is that the Arctic Ocean is also growing, so Greenland will not stay in ice age as long as North America did, but it is there now, and it manufactures a new ice layer every year, it will be around for a very long time.

From 15-50 million years ago, North America was further north than Greenland.

I know more about plate tectonics than you ever will, simp.

 

[EMH]

Yes, you are indeed a parrot. And a fascist.

Not a good mix, Skippy.

The USMB Environment section has yet to find who or which site EMH is allegedly "parroting." Funny, a parrot needs a source, and you and your ilk cannot even find one online....

Here's a clue. Why did W and Sessions and Faux' hero homO go SILENT for TWO YEARS....

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

www.google.com

 

[EMH]

I know more about plate tectonics than you ever will, simp.

Hilarious, since plate tectonics is the driver of Earth climate change, and you don't have an IQ over 10 necessary to figure that out...

 

[westwall]

Hilarious, since plate tectonics is the driver of Earth climate change, and you don't have an IQ over 10 necessary to figure that out...

No, it isn't. The Sun has always been the driver. Always will be.

 

[westwall]

The USMB Environment section has yet to find who or which site EMH is allegedly "parroting." Funny, a parrot needs a source, and you and your ilk cannot even find one online....

Here's a clue. Why did W and Sessions and Faux' hero homO go SILENT for TWO YEARS....

obama climate silence 2010 2012 - Google Search

www.google.com

Fascists parrot fascists.

Duh.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Human consumption of fresh water is the only variable. There is no other variable. All other issues are constant.

Human consumption of fresh water continues to increase, drawing more and more from finite fresh water sources.


There is a ferocious hate filled resistance to mentioning human overpopulation from Luddites who also claim the official version of 911 is accurate, that WTC was not controlled demolition etc.

In short, these Luddites do not understand basic science. They are religious and they only care about parroting a conflicted religious leader who wants a larger flock and doesn't care about anything else.

So, if you reject human overpopulation as the cause of these fires globally, and they are global, not just Hawaii,

TELL US WHAT IS CAUSING THEM!!!!

/---/ Stop drinking water and drink beer. Problem solved.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Human consumption of fresh water is the only variable. There is no other variable. All other issues are constant.

Human consumption of fresh water continues to increase, drawing more and more from finite fresh water sources.


There is a ferocious hate filled resistance to mentioning human overpopulation from Luddites who also claim the official version of 911 is accurate, that WTC was not controlled demolition etc.

In short, these Luddites do not understand basic science. They are religious and they only care about parroting a conflicted religious leader who wants a larger flock and doesn't care about anything else.

So, if you reject human overpopulation as the cause of these fires globally, and they are global, not just Hawaii,

TELL US WHAT IS CAUSING THEM!!!!

/----/ You're right. Humans are the cause - especially liberal humans.

Environmentalists Destroyed California’s Forests | California Policy Center

Millions of acres of California forest have been blackened by wildfires this summer, leading to the usual angry denunciations from the usual quarters about climate change. But in 1999, the Associated Press reported that forestry experts had long agreed that “clearing undergrowth would save...

californiapolicycenter.org

Year after year, environmentalists litigated and lobbied to stop efforts to clear the forests through timber harvesting, underbrush removal, and controlled burns. Meanwhile, natural fires were suppressed and the forests became more and more overgrown. The excessive biomass competed for the same water, soil, and light a healthier forest would have used, rendering all of the trees and underbrush unhealthy. It wasn’t just excess biomass that accumulated, but dried out and dead biomass.

 

[Cellblock2429]

How is it people didn't know there was a fire until the flames were on top of em.

/---/ Reports say the fire was moving at 60 mph, faster than many were able to react.

 

[EMH]

No, it isn't. The Sun has always been the driver. Always will be.

Pseudo intellect
Pseudo patriot

Still cannot explain how the SUN CHANGES anything on Earth. Indeed, your one attempt to cite "Solar Cycle Science" resulted in you unable to explain just what equipment was available in 1670 to count all sunspots. Solar Cycle is an even more obvious fraud than Co2. It takes an ABSOLUTE MORON to fall for it.

 

[EMH]

/----/ You're right. Humans are the cause - especially liberal humans.

Environmentalists Destroyed California’s Forests | California Policy Center

Millions of acres of California forest have been blackened by wildfires this summer, leading to the usual angry denunciations from the usual quarters about climate change. But in 1999, the Associated Press reported that forestry experts had long agreed that “clearing undergrowth would save...

californiapolicycenter.org

Year after year, environmentalists litigated and lobbied to stop efforts to clear the forests through timber harvesting, underbrush removal, and controlled burns. Meanwhile, natural fires were suppressed and the forests became more and more overgrown. The excessive biomass competed for the same water, soil, and light a healthier forest would have used, rendering all of the trees and underbrush unhealthy. It wasn’t just excess biomass that accumulated, but dried out and dead biomass.

You and I can agree fully that the Co2 Fraud employs whack job leftists who do things like start fires. They do even worse. Much worse.

But the simple truth is that you could have gone to Hawaii and dropped off a bucket of wildgrass on fire in a 70 mph wind in


2000
1900
1800
1700

and Maui would not have burned.

It only burned because its vegetation is wildly off the scale dry, way drier than anytime in history.

The only variable that has changed is human consumption of finite fresh water supply...

 

[EMH]

/---/ Reports say the fire was moving at 60 mph, faster than many were able to react.

Those events are common on Hawaii. The wind is nothing new. The only thing that is new is that the plant life was dry enough to burn. It never was before.

 

[westwall]

Pseudo intellect
Pseudo patriot

Still cannot explain how the SUN CHANGES anything on Earth. Indeed, your one attempt to cite "Solar Cycle Science" resulted in you unable to explain just what equipment was available in 1670 to count all sunspots. Solar Cycle is an even more obvious fraud than Co2. It takes an ABSOLUTE MORON to fall for it.

Fuck off fascist pig.