If we default your SSI and SSD will stop

This is incredible to watch. They've become nihilists. Nothing matters, just attack the libs.
Screw you, Democrats need to come o the table and present anything, they refuse like children holding their breath, and stomping their feet. We need to cut spending by the bloated Government. You can kick and scream all you want, you are not conservative in any way, nor do I believe any of your shtick about your positions. You say you are for limited Government and then absolutely support the Democrats spending
 
Screw you, Democrats need to come o the table and present anything, they refuse like children holding their breath, and stomping their feet. We need to cut spending by the bloated Government. You can kick and scream all you want, you are not conservative in any way, nor do I believe any of your shtick about your positions. You say you are for limited Government and then absolutely support the Democrats spending
And, of course, all of that avoids what I said. Concession accepted.

You have been conned into thinking the GQP doesn't spend too. Not my problem.
 
If we default your SSI and SSD will stop! This means the republicans will have taken away your ability to pay the rent, pay the electric bill and to buy food. These pieces of treasonous crap will put millions of people onto street corners, evicted and without. People that can't work, people that are old, people in wheel chairs, and people with mental disabilities. How evil can this party be? These people even if Biden accepts their evil bill will see their ssi and ssd go back to 2022 levels which are about 8 to 10% less and would make life a lot harder on these same people. Old joe that lives in the villages of Florida that needs to pay the rent and has worked for 50 freaking years is looking down his choice because he voted republican stupidly thinking that they gave a damn about him! Cold reality is going to hit him in the face when he is out on his ass.
Such silly drama, it take two parties and there needs to be compromise, didn’t the Democrats turn down a Republican offer? The Dems and GOP are a problem and their not willing to bend a little is just plain silly.
 
If we default your SSI and SSD will stop! This means the republicans will have taken away your ability to pay the rent, pay the electric bill and to buy food. These pieces of treasonous crap will put millions of people onto street corners, evicted and without. People that can't work, people that are old, people in wheel chairs, and people with mental disabilities. How evil can this party be? These people even if Biden accepts their evil bill will see their ssi and ssd go back to 2022 levels which are about 8 to 10% less and would make life a lot harder on these same people. Old joe that lives in the villages of Florida that needs to pay the rent and has worked for 50 freaking years is looking down his choice because he voted republican stupidly thinking that they gave a damn about him! Cold reality is going to hit him in the face when he is out on his ass.
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Take a second and look at how many people here disagree with you.

Time to go someplace where people actually like you.

Thank you for your thought provoking post.




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We've seen this con before. Why anyone has an iota of belief that this is anything but a performance by both sides is beyond me.

They'll strike a deal, both parties will claim to be the hero, while vilifying the other.

Professional wrestling in suits is all this is.
 
Right told this before:
US credit rating is evaluated on their ability to pay... This is done generally by the Debt to GDP ratio....
All the shouts here for stop Debt ceiling raise or cut services drastically cut GDP... Massive drops that would shake confidence in the economy that will cause a generation of slow growth...
This will make the Debt to GDP ratio go higher, this will increase interest rates (dramatically).
It will also cripple the tax revenue coming in, which is used to service the debt.
So in the end they would do great harm to the US Economy...
The Debt Ceiling needs to be increased and should not be used by either side as a negotiating tactic, it is like dealing with a terrorist with suicide vest, willing to blow up everything to get what he wants...
US has a long history of not negotiating with terrorists...
The issue for me is the interest paid on the Debt.
It was $300b in 2021, now in 2023 its over $700b and climbing fast.
Spending needs to be cut fast.
Going to the 2022 Budget levels isn't austere.
 
If we default your SSI and SSD will stop! This means the republicans will have taken away your ability to pay the rent, pay the electric bill and to buy food. These pieces of treasonous crap will put millions of people onto street corners, evicted and without. People that can't work, people that are old, people in wheel chairs, and people with mental disabilities. How evil can this party be? These people even if Biden accepts their evil bill will see their ssi and ssd go back to 2022 levels which are about 8 to 10% less and would make life a lot harder on these same people. Old joe that lives in the villages of Florida that needs to pay the rent and has worked for 50 freaking years is looking down his choice because he voted republican stupidly thinking that they gave a damn about him! Cold reality is going to hit him in the face when he is out on his ass.
So, you're saying that Biden ought to negotiate about cutting spending. It's about time you saw the light.
 
If we default your SSI and SSD will stop! This means the republicans will have taken away your ability to pay the rent, pay the electric bill and to buy food. These pieces of treasonous crap will put millions of people onto street corners, evicted and without. People that can't work, people that are old, people in wheel chairs, and people with mental disabilities. How evil can this party be? These people even if Biden accepts their evil bill will see their ssi and ssd go back to 2022 levels which are about 8 to 10% less and would make life a lot harder on these same people. Old joe that lives in the villages of Florida that needs to pay the rent and has worked for 50 freaking years is looking down his choice because he voted republican stupidly thinking that they gave a damn about him! Cold reality is going to hit him in the face when he is out on his ass.
This ain't our first rodeo, please point out when that has ever happened in the past. Otherwise it sounds like a whole lot of frivolous liberal fearmongering. I'll wait.
 
True, why did they never cut spending when the GOP was in control under Trump?
They are the only ones who EVER even talk about cutting spending. Democrats NEVER do. They used to complain about military spending, but even that is ignored today by democrats. It's always just spend more. Does anyone really think democrats want to pay for spending by raising taxes? The first thing they would do with new tax revenue is raise spending even more, not reduce the deficit or (God forbid) pay down the debt.
 
If we default your SSI and SSD will stop! This means the republicans will have taken away your ability to pay the rent, pay the electric bill and to buy food. These pieces of treasonous crap will put millions of people onto street corners, evicted and without. People that can't work, people that are old, people in wheel chairs, and people with mental disabilities. How evil can this party be? These people even if Biden accepts their evil bill will see their ssi and ssd go back to 2022 levels which are about 8 to 10% less and would make life a lot harder on these same people. Old joe that lives in the villages of Florida that needs to pay the rent and has worked for 50 freaking years is looking down his choice because he voted republican stupidly thinking that they gave a damn about him! Cold reality is going to hit him in the face when he is out on his ass.

The bill eliminates COLAs?

I call bullshit.
 
All the shouts here for stop Debt ceiling raise or cut services drastically cut GDP... Massive drops that would shake confidence in the economy that will cause a generation of slow growth...
Saying that cutting idiotic spending and/or "services" reduces GDP, is like claiming that removing leeches decreases blood volume in the host.....Preposterous.
 
The GQP wants to pretend that everything was JUST FINE when they raised the ceiling for Trump, who spent like a drunken sailor, increased the debt by 40% and BEGGED the Fed to INCREASE quantitative easing.

But RIGHT AFTER HE LEFT, oh, THAT'S when this all became a BIG FUCKING CRISIS.

Politics poisons everything.
Once the fiat currency got out of control, what we argue about became inevitable. Every President wants low interest rates. Jpe and the progs use inflation to keep the interest payments going with the working class with not as high paying income and retirees with no increases in their pensions paying the freight. Old Joe will give us he is one of us speech though.
 
If we default your SSI and SSD will stop! This means the republicans will have taken away your ability to pay the rent, pay the electric bill and to buy food. These pieces of treasonous crap will put millions of people onto street corners, evicted and without. People that can't work, people that are old, people in wheel chairs, and people with mental disabilities. How evil can this party be? These people even if Biden accepts their evil bill will see their ssi and ssd go back to 2022 levels which are about 8 to 10% less and would make life a lot harder on these same people. Old joe that lives in the villages of Florida that needs to pay the rent and has worked for 50 freaking years is looking down his choice because he voted republican stupidly thinking that they gave a damn about him! Cold reality is going to hit him in the face when he is out on his ass.

That is false actually.
 

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