If We Close Down All Mosques; Eliminate All Korans. THEN What ?

[protectionist]

Kondor just babbles and babbles.

ISIS is a jihadist group that does not represent Islam.

Of course they represent Islam. Everthing they do is Islam. You are talking the standard jihadist propaganda line. You're a jihadist.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What would be the effect of shutting Islam down in the US ? That is, by closing down all the mosques and eliminating all the Korans from libraries, schools, bookstores, and wherever they could be obtained.

Would Muslims regroup and finally choose a new name for their creed ? (one that doesn't mean "Submission") Would they finally reform their "religion" (if it could be called that), and change away from the stuff that's in the Koran ?

Could the United States be the leader in the world, whereby American Muslims would lead the way for the non-American Ummah and create a whole new pathway, with a fully edited/reformed Koran ? Before anyone jumps in to answer this, with a positive outlook, be advised. A word of caution. The current Koran, containing just about every vile thing known to man, and advocating these things (if not commanding them), is considered by Muslims to be the word of God (which cannot be changed, in their view). And in 1400 years, not one word of the Koran has ever been changed.

To start with, it would violate the Constitution.

Honesty about what Islam is and teaches is a far better idea. Obama needs to quite lying. We need to be honest about the acts of the Warlord Muhammad, the foundation of conquest that Islam is built on, and the provisions of the Koran encouraging murder, rape, and slavery.

Decent Muslims have already rejected these parts of Islam, if Islam is to survive, all Muslims must reject these tenets.

Quite the contrary, it violates the Constitution (Article 6, section 2) for the mosques to be in operation, and for Korans to be available.

You need to actually read article 6 section 2 of the constitution. The only reference to religion in that part of the constitution says that there is to be no religious test to hold public office.

Seriously here, I'm getting embarrassed for you. How can you be so stupid? You didn't even read the actual words. You probably got your ideas from some twisted far right wing website that uses lies to incite hate and violence. Where were you when you were supposed to learn this in high school? Did you just not pay attention or were you one of those who never bothered to go to class and spent their days getting high?

Here's the actual words from that part of the constitution. There is nothing in there that says that mosques are a violation of the constitution. Nor does it say anything about islam or christianity. It only says that there's no religious test to hold public office. The rest is about treaties, debts and that the constitution and federal government are the supreme law of the land. Which means that the constitution and federal laws over rule state laws.

Don't bother to reply to this post. I will no longer read or reply to any of your posts. You're a special kind of stupid. I no longer want to waste my time trying to teach you honest history and what our constitution actually says.


Here's the exact words of article 6 section 2:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Facts and the truth: the bane of conservative dogma.

That is so true.

One thing I do find extremely funny is that the OP is very scared that isis will impose sharia law on America.

When in reality isis is SUNI and kills any muslim who is shia and won't convert to suni.

The last thing anyone has to worry about is that isis will impose sharia law on anyone.

As I said, the OP is a very special kind of stupid along with being very extremely lazy to the point that they can't even stop and learn the honest facts.

Correct.

Ignorance is the theme common to those with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Islam.

 

[protectionist]

To start with, it would violate the Constitution.

Honesty about what Islam is and teaches is a far better idea. Obama needs to quite lying. We need to be honest about the acts of the Warlord Muhammad, the foundation of conquest that Islam is built on, and the provisions of the Koran encouraging murder, rape, and slavery.

Decent Muslims have already rejected these parts of Islam, if Islam is to survive, all Muslims must reject these tenets.

Quite the contrary, it violates the Constitution (Article 6, section 2) for the mosques to be in operation, and for Korans to be available.

You need to actually read article 6 section 2 of the constitution. The only reference to religion in that part of the constitution says that there is to be no religious test to hold public office.

Seriously here, I'm getting embarrassed for you. How can you be so stupid? You didn't even read the actual words. You probably got your ideas from some twisted far right wing website that uses lies to incite hate and violence. Where were you when you were supposed to learn this in high school? Did you just not pay attention or were you one of those who never bothered to go to class and spent their days getting high?

Here's the actual words from that part of the constitution. There is nothing in there that says that mosques are a violation of the constitution. Nor does it say anything about islam or christianity. It only says that there's no religious test to hold public office. The rest is about treaties, debts and that the constitution and federal government are the supreme law of the land. Which means that the constitution and federal laws over rule state laws.

Don't bother to reply to this post. I will no longer read or reply to any of your posts. You're a special kind of stupid. I no longer want to waste my time trying to teach you honest history and what our constitution actually says.


Here's the exact words of article 6 section 2:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Facts and the truth: the bane of conservative dogma.

That is so true.

One thing I do find extremely funny is that the OP is very scared that isis will impose sharia law on America.

When in reality isis is SUNI and kills any muslim who is shia and won't convert to suni.

The last thing anyone has to worry about is that isis will impose sharia law on anyone.

As I said, the OP is a very special kind of stupid along with being very extremely lazy to the point that they can't even stop and learn the honest facts.

Correct.

Ignorance is the theme common to those with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Islam.

YOU are the ignorant one. I challenged you. YOU PUNKED OUT (because you know you are ignorant and couldn't pass the QUIZ)

 

[JakeStarkey]

"You're probably a jihadist and maybe an ISIS operative as well."

Loony talk because the OP ass is being kicked around like a meat pinata.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Only a morally insane individuals writes, "Islam is not a religion"

 

[protectionist]

What would be the effect of shutting Islam down in the US ? That is, by closing down all the mosques and eliminating all the Korans from libraries, schools, bookstores, and wherever they could be obtained.

Would Muslims regroup and finally choose a new name for their creed ? (one that doesn't mean "Submission") Would they finally reform their "religion" (if it could be called that), and change away from the stuff that's in the Koran ?

Could the United States be the leader in the world, whereby American Muslims would lead the way for the non-American Ummah and create a whole new pathway, with a fully edited/reformed Koran ? Before anyone jumps in to answer this, with a positive outlook, be advised. A word of caution. The current Koran, containing just about every vile thing known to man, and advocating these things (if not commanding them), is considered by Muslims to be the word of God (which cannot be changed, in their view). And in 1400 years, not one word of the Koran has ever been changed.

To start with, it would violate the Constitution.

Honesty about what Islam is and teaches is a far better idea. Obama needs to quite lying. We need to be honest about the acts of the Warlord Muhammad, the foundation of conquest that Islam is built on, and the provisions of the Koran encouraging murder, rape, and slavery.

Decent Muslims have already rejected these parts of Islam, if Islam is to survive, all Muslims must reject these tenets.

Quite the contrary, it violates the Constitution (Article 6, section 2) for the mosques to be in operation, and for Korans to be available.

You need to actually read article 6 section 2 of the constitution. The only reference to religion in that part of the constitution says that there is to be no religious test to hold public office.

Seriously here, I'm getting embarrassed for you. How can you be so stupid? You didn't even read the actual words. You probably got your ideas from some twisted far right wing website that uses lies to incite hate and violence. Where were you when you were supposed to learn this in high school? Did you just not pay attention or were you one of those who never bothered to go to class and spent their days getting high?

Here's the actual words from that part of the constitution. There is nothing in there that says that mosques are a violation of the constitution. Nor does it say anything about islam or christianity. It only says that there's no religious test to hold public office. The rest is about treaties, debts and that the constitution and federal government are the supreme law of the land. Which means that the constitution and federal laws over rule state laws.

Don't bother to reply to this post. I will no longer read or reply to any of your posts. You're a special kind of stupid. I no longer want to waste my time trying to teach you honest history and what our constitution actually says.


Here's the exact words of article 6 section 2:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Facts and the truth: the bane of conservative dogma.

That is so true.

One thing I do find extremely funny is that the OP is very scared that isis will impose sharia law on America.

When in reality isis is SUNI and kills any muslim who is shia and won't convert to suni.

The last thing anyone has to worry about is that isis will impose sharia law on anyone.

As I said, the OP is a very special kind of stupid along with being very extremely lazy to the point that they can't even stop and learn the honest facts.

"Learn" ? Do you think you could pass a quiz on Islamization ? Think you could get better than a 5% grade ?

 

[protectionist]

Only a morally insane individuals writes, "Islam is not a religion"

Italy writes ""Islam is not a religion"

Italy Islam Not Recognized as a Religion Denied Religious Tax Status The Muslim Times

 

[JakeStarkey]

That "The Constitution bans supremacism" does not apply to religion.

There is no evidence and their is no substantive argument one can make to support that silly OP..

 

[protectionist]

As do all these >>>

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[JakeStarkey]

Only a morally insane individuals writes, "Islam is not a religion"

Italy writes ""Islam is not a religion"

Italy Islam Not Recognized as a Religion Denied Religious Tax Status The Muslim Times

We are not Italy, and Italy merely takes away tax status, cannot deny that it is a religion.

 

[protectionist]

That "The Constitution bans supremacism" does not apply to religion.

There is no evidence and their is no substantive argument one can make to support that silly OP..

Of course it does. It applies to everything and anything that is supremacist. doesn't apply to religion ? HA HA HA!! EARTH TO MOHAMED: The 1st amendment has many exceptions. The Supremacy Clause has NONE.

 

[JakeStarkey]

All of the insane web sites do not prove that Islam is not a religion.

Protectionist, a billion Muslims and more Christians than will say, "take your meds."

 

[protectionist]

Only a morally insane individuals writes, "Islam is not a religion"

Italy writes ""Islam is not a religion"

Italy Islam Not Recognized as a Religion Denied Religious Tax Status The Muslim Times

We are not Italy, and Italy merely takes away tax status, cannot deny that it is a religion.

FALSE: read the link, airhead.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That "The Constitution bans supremacism" does not apply to religion.

There is no evidence and their is no substantive argument one can make to support that silly OP..

Of course it does. It applies to everything and anything that is supremacist. doesn't apply to religion ? HA HA HA!! EARTH TO MOHAMED: The 1st amendment has many exceptions. The Supremacy Clause has NONE.

No, it does not.

 

[protectionist]

All of the insane web sites do not prove that Islam is not a religion.

Protectionist, a billion Muslims and more Christians than will say, "take your meds."

Most people around the world agree that Islam is not a religion, and it doesn't matter if it is, or not. NOTHING trumps the Supremacy clause.

 

[protectionist]

That "The Constitution bans supremacism" does not apply to religion.

There is no evidence and their is no substantive argument one can make to support that silly OP..

Of course it does. It applies to everything and anything that is supremacist. doesn't apply to religion ? HA HA HA!! EARTH TO MOHAMED: The 1st amendment has many exceptions. The Supremacy Clause has NONE.

No, it does not.

YES it does.

 

[protectionist]

Only the insane would think of Islam as a religion.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Only a morally insane individuals writes, "Islam is not a religion"

Italy writes ""Islam is not a religion"

Italy Islam Not Recognized as a Religion Denied Religious Tax Status The Muslim Times

We are not Italy, and Italy merely takes away tax status, cannot deny that it is a religion.

FALSE: read the link, airhead.

You can argue black is white, you can argue gravity is not a law, you can argue plus is minus, you can argue Islam is not a religion, and you will be wrong every time.

 

[JakeStarkey]

All of the insane web sites do not prove that Islam is not a religion.

Protectionist, a billion Muslims and more Christians than will say, "take your meds."

Most people around the world agree that Islam is not a religion, and it doesn't matter if it is, or not. NOTHING trumps the Supremacy clause.

All of our counter arguments have trumped it, everyone.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The insane man says

Only the insane would think of Islam as a religion.