If We Close Down All Mosques; Eliminate All Korans. THEN What ?

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What would be the effect of shutting Islam down in the US ? That is, by closing down all the mosques and eliminating all the Korans from libraries, schools, bookstores, and wherever they could be obtained.

Would Muslims regroup and finally choose a new name for their creed ? (one that doesn't mean "Submission") Would they finally reform their "religion" (if it could be called that), and change away from the stuff that's in the Koran ?

Could the United States be the leader in the world, whereby American Muslims would lead the way for the non-American Ummah and create a whole new pathway, with a fully edited/reformed Koran ? Before anyone jumps in to answer this, with a positive outlook, be advised. A word of caution. The current Koran, containing just about every vile thing known to man, and advocating these things (if not commanding them), is considered by Muslims to be the word of God (which cannot be changed, in their view). And in 1400 years, not one word of the Koran has ever been changed.
 

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You would still be a failure...you would just have one less group to blame.
 
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You would still be a failure...you would just have one less group to blame.
Besides talking like a fool, do you think you might tell the readers what the hell you're talking about ? :laugh:
 

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What would be the effect of shutting Islam down in the US ? That is, by closing down all the mosques and eliminating all the Korans from libraries, schools, bookstores, and wherever they could be obtained.

Would Muslims regroup and finally choose a new name for their creed ? (one that doesn't mean "Submission") Would they finally reform their "religion" (if it could be called that), and change away from the stuff that's in the Koran ?

Could the United States be the leader in the world, whereby American Muslims would lead the way for the non-American Ummah and create a whole new pathway, with a fully edited/reformed Koran ? Before anyone jumps in to answer this, with a positive outlook, be advised. A word of caution. The current Koran, containing just about every vile thing known to man, and advocating these things (if not commanding them), is considered by Muslims to be the word of God (which cannot be changed, in their view). And in 1400 years, not one word of the Koran has ever been changed.
Islam isn't much of a religion. It's more a form of oppressive government that is not conducive to a free society. It is about obedience or submission. Rules dictate every aspect of your life. If you are a woman, you have no rights.

We do have some radical Imams running the mosques here. We should shut them down if they are caught encouraging jihad. Anyone involved should be deported if they are immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Instead, we are told to be tolerant. How are we supposed to be tolerant of radicals whose creed is intolerance of all others? I don't feel sorry for ISIS or anyone who supports them or wants to join them. We shouldn't be sympathetic. What they are doing is wrong and they need to be stopped. Period. If they realize there are dire consequences for their actions, at least they will be forewarned if they don't stop. Instead, we encourage them by not aggressively trying to stop them and we have the Obama administration out there talking about sympathizing with them and looking for every excuse for their actions. They are evil. Obama refuses to say that it's based on religion even after they behead gays and Christians. Only time it's about religion is when someone offends a Muslim.
 

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No I don't think we need to close down mosques, but we do need to monitor them for hate speech against others, and evidence of radicalism.
 

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if-we-close-down-all-mosques-, then we have to rip up the Constitution.
 

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If We Close Down All Mosques; Eliminate All Korans. THEN What ?

It AIN'T gonna happen...NOW what?
 

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Lol. ISIS got started out of perceived injustice by Shiites against Sunnis, so I don't see how pushing Muslims underground will keep them away from terror groups - in fact it would push Muslims at risk of recruitment further into the arms of terrorist organizations.
 

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What would be the effect of shutting Islam down in the US ? That is, by closing down all the mosques and eliminating all the Korans from libraries, schools, bookstores, and wherever they could be obtained.

Would Muslims regroup and finally choose a new name for their creed ? (one that doesn't mean "Submission") Would they finally reform their "religion" (if it could be called that), and change away from the stuff that's in the Koran ?

Could the United States be the leader in the world, whereby American Muslims would lead the way for the non-American Ummah and create a whole new pathway, with a fully edited/reformed Koran ? Before anyone jumps in to answer this, with a positive outlook, be advised. A word of caution. The current Koran, containing just about every vile thing known to man, and advocating these things (if not commanding them), is considered by Muslims to be the word of God (which cannot be changed, in their view). And in 1400 years, not one word of the Koran has ever been changed.
Would we have to sandblast Mohammed off the Supreme Court building?

Muhammad Sculpture Inside Supreme Court a Gesture of Goodwill - Law Blog - WSJ
 

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You would still be a failure...you would just have one less group to blame.
Besides talking like a fool, do you think you might tell the readers what the hell you're talking about ? :laugh:
speaking of talking like a fool, your opening post covered that venue quite nicely.
So because you don't like them strip them of numerous Constitutional rights, ostracize them and when your idiotic plan creates terrorists on these shores you can double down on stupidity and blame liberals.

Certain stupid people tried the same silly bullshit with Christianity, the result:

Others believe that the early church met in houses due to persecution, and home meetings were the most viable option to the early adopters of Christianity.

Several passages in the Bible specifically mention churches meeting in houses. "The churches of Asia greet you, especially Aquila and Priscilla greet you much in the Lord, along with the church that is in their house." I Cor 16:19. The church meeting in the house of Priscilla and Aquila is again mentioned in Romans 16:3, 5. The church that meets in the house of Nymphas is also cited in the Bible: "Greet the brethren in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in her house." Col 4:15.

For the first 300 years of early Christianity, people met in homes until Constantine legalized Christianity, and the assembly moved out of houses into temples creating the auditorium style church seen today.[6]


I gladly don't share this wish on America as you do:

 
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"If We Close Down All Mosques; Eliminate All Korans. THEN What ?"

You would first need to amend the Constitution repealing the First Amendment.

Good luck with that.
FALSE! This thread has nothing to do with the Constitution other than the reason for closing down Islam entirely, due to its violation of the Constitution (Article 6 Section 2, the Supremacy Clause), + violation of US Codes 2384 & 2385.

Stop posting OFF TOPIC, and either talk about the thread topic (Islam/Koran reformation) or get out of the thread.
 
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No I don't think we need to close down mosques, but we do need to monitor them for hate speech against others, and evidence of radicalism.
True, of course, but that requires massive resources that America is under great strain already having to fight the global jihad. And since Islam is unconstitutional and has been illegal by the Supremacy clause + 2 US Codes, why tolerate it, at tremendous expense to ourselves ?

Again the question is what happens after the shut down ?
 
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