If Trump loses, expect a Republican civil war

Since when were the Old Weird Guy or Republicans, for that matter, fiscally responsible?
True. BOTH parties spent too much and now the interest on the Debt is over $1T, more than the defense budget.

If spending is not cut, and the US dollar collapses, the shit will have officially hit the fan.
 
because both parties are only concerned with the party...and if you think im wrong,why are there so many people who call themselves independents now a days?...because they cant stand the self serving parties....that being said only a percentage of them are real independents...
 
because both parties are only concerned with the party...and if you think im wrong,why are there so many people who call themselves independents now a days?...because they cant stand the self serving parties....that being said only a percentage of them are real independents...
Well I will tell them to do better.
 
yea i wish you people would instead of just following along like good little servants.....
Hahaha

And what would that look like?

Let me guess.... voting for a candidate that gets 5%

Wow. You really showed them! 🙄
 
True. BOTH parties spent too much and now the interest on the Debt is over $1T, more than the defense budget.

If spending is not cut, and the US dollar collapses, the shit will have officially hit the fan.
voters who "identify" with either party are ambivalent to debt. Our kids are fucked. And we stopped caring because reagan said it was good.
 
Hahaha

And what would that look like?

Let me guess.... voting for a candidate that gets 5%

Wow. You really showed them! 🙄
so go vote for the lessor of 2 evils again instead of demanding better people.....but remember we have the inept,incompetent people we have because of people like you...never question just follow as long as they are who the party wants....yea your really showing them.....
 
I expect him to pull out of the election
That’s not going to happen.

If he’s defeated, Trump will again try to overturn the will of the voters, as he did in 2020 – likely with violence.

And we can’t be sure Trump is not going to win – there’s a great deal of fear, ignorance, stupidity, racism, bigotry, misogyny, and hate in support of Trump.
 
He's not going to win. I expect him to pull out of the election rather than face the humiliation of another loss. Trump is a failed President who the American people voted out of office because of his failure.

20% of Republicans voted against him in the primaries. He's getting crazier and more unhinged by the day as Harris goes from one packed cheering rally to the next.
He isn't going anywhere.

Trump knows he wins this election or possibly goes to prison as an old man.
 
1. Agreed that Trump is less popular than the Republican policies.

2. Nikki Haley would have beaten Biden by 17-points when Trump barely won in polls. That was probably more Biden's age than populist policies.

3. There won't be an "ass-kicking" by Kamala. She is not very popular, and voters say that the US is on the "wrong-track". 2024 will be very close one way or another.

4. After Trump wins or loses the GOP will return to less controversial candidates. You think Jeb Bush has a shot in 2028? <g>

5. There will be no "rebranding" conservatism is not popular, populism is here to stay.

6. Know nothings like Kamala flunking her 1st Bar Exam, and not doing press conferences?

#2 is absolutely right. I would have gladly voted for Haley.
 
Dems can be violent, I am sure. But about elections? Trump will lose, but if he wins, we will see if the theory is tested.
Republicans are lying about stolen elections, cheating, or non-citizens voting, not Democrats; we see proof of this every day on this very forum.
 
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That’s not going to happen.

If he’s defeated, Trump will again try to overturn the will of the voters, as he did in 2020 – likely with violence.

And we can’t be sure Trump is not going to win – there’s a great deal of fear, ignorance, stupidity, racism, bigotry, misogyny, and hate in support of Trump.

There are a lot of factors you're not considering here, starting with the state of the Republican Party. Lara Trump closed all of the outreach offices, and fired all staff which refused to say the 2020 election wasn't stolen. They have nobody working on the ground, knocking on doors or getting out the vote.

Many of the State Parties in swing states have been bankrupted by endless court challenges to both the 2020 election and the 2022 elections - all of which they've lost. Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvannia, Nevada. They have no money for down ballot races, or staff.

This is the first election which will be decided by Gen X and Z. Boomers are no longer the majority of voters. People who have grown up with student debt, having mass shooter drills, and who are in their child bearing years. They NEED access to reproductive health care. Polling companies tend not to be calling them, because they're new voters.

20% of Republican voters voted for Nicki Haley in the primaries, months after she dropped out. They got in their cars, drove to the polling station, to vote for someone they knew wasn't running.

There were 8 million more women voters than men in 2022. That number is a LOT bigger now. MEN continue to under estimate how pissed those women truly are. And they are not voting for the Republicans who refuse to listen when they tell them they're KILLING women.
 
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