Zone1 “If the universe had a beginning, then we cannot avoid the question of creation.”

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Another similar concept would be, "first life".

How so?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How so?

In, for example, the ways I described in the post. Any definition of that would be arbitrary and for convenience.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"Does God exist? Modern science shows he must, bestseller argues



A book by two French authors that challenges a longstanding academic consensus is being published in Britain next week


In a striking challenge to the academic consensus, two French authors, Michel-Yves Bolloré and Olivier Bonnassies, argue that the latest scientific theories lead to only one logical conclusion: an all-powerful deity created the universe and all life within it.


The materialist narrative for the beginnings of the universe and life on earth is so full of holes, he and Bonnassies argue, that every modern scientific advance increases the strength of the case that a “creator” is the only rational explanation."

Does God exist? Modern science shows he must, bestseller argues

A book by two French authors that challenges a longstanding academic consensus is being published in Britain next week

www.thetimes.com

This is an interesting article about a new book. The authors are not the only people seeing evidnce in a creator in the Big Bang and DNA and the complexity of cellular bio-machines.
Back in the 19th century, materialists had Darwin's theory of evolution and a static universe model to support their beliefs.
But today, we have an expanding universe coming from a singularity and DNA storing complex data which points to a creator.

Every couple of years, someone rebrands the God of the Gaps concept to pay the rent.

Yawn.

 

[DonGlock26]

Only if we assign it one, arbitrarily. For example: "ignition", or the beginning of fusion. But when is that? The very first event of two hydrogen atoms fusing, in the local gas cloud? Or do we set a lower limit on the number of atoms that are undergoing fusion, before saying, "it's a star!" Either one is arbitrary.

Something similar is "species", in evolution. There was no "first squirrel", for example. Such a concept it, in fact, strictly nonsensical.

Another similar concept would be, "first life".

Pick one of your star beginnings. You still have a beginning.

Why was there no first squirrel?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Pick one.

One what? Not sure what you mean.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Pick one of your star beginnings. You still have a beginning.

Because I defined one arbitrarily, in absence of an actual, objective beginning.

Following?

 

[DonGlock26]

Because I defined one arbitrarily, in absence of an actual, objective beginning.

Following?

You picked a beginning. So the star has a beginning.

Why was there no first squirrel?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You picked a beginning. So the star has a beginning.

Well that is obviously ridiculous.

I hereby declare all football games begin after halftime.

 

[DonGlock26]

Well that is obviously ridiculous.

I hereby declare all football games begin after halftime.

When do football games begin?

Why was there no first squirrel?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

When do football games begin?

Why was there no first squirrel?

Your squirrel question belies an abject ignorance of the theory of evolution.

And you have reached your question limit for today. I suggest, as an adult, you make an effort to inform yourself of the answer and, hopefully, you will learn something about evolution along the way.

 

[otto105]

"Does God exist? Modern science shows he must, bestseller argues



A book by two French authors that challenges a longstanding academic consensus is being published in Britain next week


In a striking challenge to the academic consensus, two French authors, Michel-Yves Bolloré and Olivier Bonnassies, argue that the latest scientific theories lead to only one logical conclusion: an all-powerful deity created the universe and all life within it.


The materialist narrative for the beginnings of the universe and life on earth is so full of holes, he and Bonnassies argue, that every modern scientific advance increases the strength of the case that a “creator” is the only rational explanation."

Does God exist? Modern science shows he must, bestseller argues

A book by two French authors that challenges a longstanding academic consensus is being published in Britain next week

www.thetimes.com

This is an interesting article about a new book. The authors are not the only people seeing evidnce in a creator in the Big Bang and DNA and the complexity of cellular bio-machines.
Back in the 19th century, materialists had Darwin's theory of evolution and a static universe model to support their beliefs.
But today, we have an expanding universe coming from a singularity and DNA storing complex data which points to a creator.

Did they check out the Big Bang that created all those deities.

 

[DonGlock26]

Your squirrel question belies an abject ignorance of the theory of evolution.

And you have reached your question limit for today. I suggest, as an adult, you make an effort to inform yourself of the answer and, hopefully, you will learn something about evolution along the way.

I accept your flight.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I accept your flight.

Well, self-deluding and prancing and preening wont help you. I am still here, and you are still abjectly ignorant of the theory of evolution.

I want you to squeeze that lump between your ears and try to come up with your own answer as to why there was no, "first squirrel".

A hint: look up the term, "chronospecies".

Good luck.

 

[DonGlock26]

Did they check out the Big Bang that created all those deities.

Deities are not part of BBT.

 

[DonGlock26]

Well, self-deluding and prancing and preening wont help you. I am still here, and you are still abjectly ignorant of the theory of evolution.

I want you to squeeze that lump between your ears and try to come up with your own answer as to why there was no, "first squirrel".

A hint: look up the term, "chronospecies".

Good luck.

Still running off the field, I see.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Still running off the field, I see.

You're embarrassing yourself. This childish trolling tactic won't help you.

But we have learned that the beginning of anything is whatever I say it is.

Power! Unlimited Power!!!!!

 

[otto105]

Deities are not part of BBT.

Hilarious

The BBT created the universe and this planet that evolved idiots who created religion to rule people.

You good with that.

 

[DonGlock26]

You're embarrassing yourself. This childish trolling tactic won't help you.

But we have learned that the beginning of anything is whatever I say it is.

Power! Unlimited Power!!!!!

The troll is running off the field. Bye.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The troll is running off the field. Bye.

But you're the one rolling up into a ball and sucking your thumb and refusing to continue, simply because a stranger on the internet wont spoonfeed you the answer to a simple question that a freshman biology student would easily provide.

Not a good look, for a grown man.

 

[DonGlock26]

Hilarious

The BBT created the universe and this planet that evolved idiots who created religion to rule people.

You good with that.

Well, you accept the BBT. That's good.

Where do you think the singularity came from?

Many stratagems are used to rule people. The promise to "strip wealth from some to give it to others" for example.

Unlike the secular humanist Marxists, I do not believe that Man is inherently good (except for conservatives of course).