If States Decide to Secede From The Country, Which Side Secedes?

[Independent thinker]

I remember when Biden was president there was talk about some red states possibly wanting to secede from the country. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and democrats hate the Trump presidency so much and so badly it makes me wonder if blue states would consider seceding from the country. So, this thread assumes that at some point in the future, at least one state, if not more, will have finally hit their limit and want to secede. So, which side will hit the breaking point first, red or blue?

Also, Republicans, while not 100% in lockstep with each other, seem to have their party more together than the democrat infighting, who only have a 25% approval rating and Progressives fighting everyone else for control of the party. If Progressives break off from the party, dooming the left permanently, does that mean it's more likely that blue states would secede first? Dust off your crystal balls and report here what they are telling you.

 

[Unkotare]

Nobody.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

They aren't, so it's a moot point.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That entire secession thing back in 1861 should be a valuable lesson

 

[TNHarley]

If they do, maybe our fascist govt will let them this time. There is NOTHING in the constitution that gives the fed gov the authority to stop them.

 

[Votto]

If they do, maybe our fascist govt will let them this time. There is NOTHING in the constitution that gives the fed gov the authority to stop them.

Collectivists do one thing and that is collect power.

They have no interest in sharing any I can assure you.

 

[Unkotare]

If they do, maybe our fascist govt will let them this time. There is NOTHING in the constitution that gives the fed gov the authority to stop them.

Texas v. White

 

[jwoodie]

They aren't, so it's a moot point.

Thanks for your unvaluable contribution. In case you missed it, "If" preceding a question indicates it is hypothetical, rather than moot.

 

[g5000]

I remember when Biden was president there was talk about some red states possibly wanting to secede from the country. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and democrats hate the Trump presidency so much and so badly it makes me wonder if blue states would consider seceding from the country. So, this thread assumes that at some point in the future, at least one state, if not more, will have finally hit their limit and want to secede. So, which side will hit the breaking point first, red or blue?

Also, Republicans, while not 100% in lockstep with each other, seem to have their party more together than the democrat infighting, who only have a 25% approval rating and Progressives fighting everyone else for control of the party. If Progressives break off from the party, dooming the left permanently, does that mean it's more likely that blue states would secede first? Dust off your crystal balls and report here what they are telling you.

The red states need the blue states because they leech off the blue states' federal revenues.

 

[22lcidw]

The red states need the blue states because they leech off the blue states' federal revenues.

The huge ghettos in the cities are self-sufficient then. The public schools pull huge resources from the federal and state governments. The transportation systems you love so much would collapse without federal and state resources to those cities. These do not count in revenue sharing. Which goes a good percentage or mostly to Prog areas in those red states.

 

[TNHarley]

Texas v. White

Like I said above..

 

[Unkotare]

Like I said above..

"Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede. "

Texas v. White | Civil War, Secession, Union | Britannica

Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede. In 1850 the state of Texas received $10,000,000 in federal government bonds in settlement of boundary claims. In 1861 the state seceded from the

www.britannica.com

 

[TNHarley]

"Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede. "

Texas v. White | Civil War, Secession, Union | Britannica

Texas v. White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede. In 1850 the state of Texas received $10,000,000 in federal government bonds in settlement of boundary claims. In 1861 the state seceded from the

www.britannica.com

Where is that in the constitution?

 

[struth]

I remember when Biden was president there was talk about some red states possibly wanting to secede from the country. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and democrats hate the Trump presidency so much and so badly it makes me wonder if blue states would consider seceding from the country. So, this thread assumes that at some point in the future, at least one state, if not more, will have finally hit their limit and want to secede. So, which side will hit the breaking point first, red or blue?

Also, Republicans, while not 100% in lockstep with each other, seem to have their party more together than the democrat infighting, who only have a 25% approval rating and Progressives fighting everyone else for control of the party. If Progressives break off from the party, dooming the left permanently, does that mean it's more likely that blue states would secede first? Dust off your crystal balls and report here what they are telling you.

It's pretty obvious with what the Govt of Cali is doing now that the blue states will attempt to....again.

They do not respect or agree with a Democratic-Republic system.

 

[Ropey]

Where is that in the constitution?

Texas wanted a reason to suit up... if necessary... amid different times.

Other than that, it's largely theoretical.

 

[JLW]

No state will ever secede again. We are too fully integrated. States all live or die together.

 

[Unkotare]

Where is that in the constitution?

Go ask the Supreme Court.

 

[1srelluc]

I'd just be happy if NOtVA joined MD.....Or it was rendered uninhabitable....Same difference.

 

[jwoodie]

It's pretty obvious with what the Govt of Cali is doing now that the blue states will attempt to....again.

Democrats don't want to secede. That would mean giving up their control of other people.

 

[g5000]

Where is that in the constitution?

Do you know better than Supreme Court judges?

To settle the matter once and for all, the 14th amendment made secession explicitly unconstitutional.

So, yes, there is something in the constitution which will not allow for any more secessions.

You're welcome.