justoffal
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Lol...
BWAHAHAH...
If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.
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BWAHAHAH...
No i didnt - I addressed point 1 before moving on. You ignored my simple question. I asked you to answer it and then said I would get to yours. Show me that you are not a cult member and can admit that under Biden oil production reached level never seen before. If you can acknowledge that I think we can continue the debate because that is a fundamental fact that we have to agree on.
That was the first thing you posted. I am more than willing to get into your second issue as soon as we agree on the first, which is a verifiable undisputable fact.
Also oil was passed to Biden on the downslope. Oil rigs were down to 340 operational ones when Biden was sworn in. That number doubled under Biden without any momentum from Trump... You'll notice rigs were decreasing under Trump the whole time.
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Oh, so you’re making it all up. Gotcha.
This thread isn't about oil output. Can you discuss the thread topic?
I see attacking Trump as attacking Trump. Most especially when the attacks are irrelevant to the thread topic or what is being discussed. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.
The evidence he gives a shit about America are in all the accomplishments he is doing for America and Americans.
Something your people can't point to as an accomplishment anywhere.
I was struck by the revelations of text messages by Jeanine Pirro to Ronna McDaniel for two reasons. But first, here is what she wrote.
Ms. Pirro, a former Fox News host who is now the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., told Ronna McDaniel, then the Republican National Committee chair, in a text in the months before the election: “I work so hard for the President and the party.” Ms. Pirro had been pushing for a pardon from Mr. Trump for her ex-husband, Smartmatic argues.
A weekend personality on Fox made her case for her ex-hubby's pardon by sending the message about how she used her position as a broadcaster to work for trump and the Repub party. Other text messages from other anchors show just how much Fox was in the tank for trump by fomenting the "stop the steal" lie. This, from a cable station many millions of conservatives rely on for accurate information to inform their opinions. The problem being, it isn't accurate.
As a quick aside, consider how radically different the political landscape would be if the Fox talking heads had done what they should have done, what the facts told them to do, acknowledge trump's defeat.
The second thing is Pirro was rewarded for her hard work shilling for trump by being nominated to be the US Attorney for DC. Replacing Ed Martin.......a man so corrupt even Senate Repubs refused to confirm him. Repubs had no problem confirming Pirro despite the obvious compromise of her ethics and lack of ability to make impartial prosecutorial decisions. A furtherance of the corruption of the judiciary by trump as a reward for Jeanine's loyalty.
Back to my original question. How can I get trump devotees to take the small step of recognizing Jeanine Pirro should not have been nominated, nor confirmed, to be DC's US Attorney in light of this unequivocal evidence? Because if you can, perhaps you can take the next step. Maybe look in to Ed Martin and why Repubs refused to confirm him. More importantly, ask yourselves how trump could have put him in a temporary role as US Attorney in the first place and then assigned him to work for the DoJ.
Then maybe, just maybe, you can take the final step. You can ask yourselves why being in agreement with trump on border security has translated to support of what happened to Andry Hernandez Romero. Or this...........
Father of 3 Marines Who Was Beaten by ICE Agents Released, Leaving Family to Process His Detention
Or this.........
Judge calls Trump DOJ’s request to release Epstein grand jury records a ‘diversion’
Or this.......
Trump says U.S. will not approve solar or wind power projects
Or this.........
Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?
Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?
President Trump says he plans to sign an executive order "to end mail-in ballots, because they're corrupt." Here's what to know about his claims.www.cbsnews.com
Remember Trump tariffed Brazil?
High demand, low cattle counts: Record-high beef prices impacting farmers and consumers
In 2023, the US imported 956.5 million pounds of beef, with Brazil being a significant supplier. While the US has seen a recent surge in beef imports from Brazil, specifically in April 2025 where exports reached 48,000 metric tons
Trump signed an Executive Order implementing an additional 40% tariff on Brazil
God (if he/she's up there) knows I am guilty of the same.
Especially on abortion.
That's partly how I recognize the futility in your post.
I wish they would prove me wrong, but I won't hold out hope for that.
Oh for pete's sake. Even YOU aren't dumb enough to think we haven't been doing that.
What accomplishments? So far his actions have raised our prices. I now need to get a raise. His actions are going to cost each of us, on average, $2400 more.
You cried in 2024 that you were paying too much. Now you pay $2400 more. You must be incredibly stupid.
Papageorgio
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Not possible there were people that claimed Biden was the picture of mental health and nothing you could say, show or do would convince them he was getting senile. I call them partisans, it is party over America, no matter what. Most people call them the extreme right and left, they are obsessed with having to be right and the other side is wrong.I was struck by the revelations of text messages by Jeanine Pirro to Ronna McDaniel for two reasons. But first, here is what she wrote.
Ms. Pirro, a former Fox News host who is now the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., told Ronna McDaniel, then the Republican National Committee chair, in a text in the months before the election: “I work so hard for the President and the party.” Ms. Pirro had been pushing for a pardon from Mr. Trump for her ex-husband, Smartmatic argues.
A weekend personality on Fox made her case for her ex-hubby's pardon by sending the message about how she used her position as a broadcaster to work for trump and the Repub party. Other text messages from other anchors show just how much Fox was in the tank for trump by fomenting the "stop the steal" lie. This, from a cable station many millions of conservatives rely on for accurate information to inform their opinions. The problem being, it isn't accurate.
As a quick aside, consider how radically different the political landscape would be if the Fox talking heads had done what they should have done, what the facts told them to do, acknowledge trump's defeat.
The second thing is Pirro was rewarded for her hard work shilling for trump by being nominated to be the US Attorney for DC. Replacing Ed Martin.......a man so corrupt even Senate Repubs refused to confirm him. Repubs had no problem confirming Pirro despite the obvious compromise of her ethics and lack of ability to make impartial prosecutorial decisions. A furtherance of the corruption of the judiciary by trump as a reward for Jeanine's loyalty.
Back to my original question. How can I get trump devotees to take the small step of recognizing Jeanine Pirro should not have been nominated, nor confirmed, to be DC's US Attorney in light of this unequivocal evidence? Because if you can, perhaps you can take the next step. Maybe look in to Ed Martin and why Repubs refused to confirm him. More importantly, ask yourselves how trump could have put him in a temporary role as US Attorney in the first place and then assigned him to work for the DoJ.
Then maybe, just maybe, you can take the final step. You can ask yourselves why being in agreement with trump on border security has translated to support of what happened to Andry Hernandez Romero. Or this...........
Father of 3 Marines Who Was Beaten by ICE Agents Released, Leaving Family to Process His Detention
Or this.........
Judge calls Trump DOJ’s request to release Epstein grand jury records a ‘diversion’
Or this.......
Trump says U.S. will not approve solar or wind power projects
Or this.........
Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?
Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?
President Trump says he plans to sign an executive order "to end mail-in ballots, because they're corrupt." Here's what to know about his claims.
Reality, both sides pretty much are terrible.
Yay. I was hoping you would admit you've got nothing and would start attacking me personally. That is a absolute sure fire way to verify you've got nothing. So I win the debate.
Do have a pleasant day.
Nope. But I do have a limited amount of time and I accept my limitations in trying to teach the stupid.
This was an interesting thread topic when it was actually discussed. Too bad nobody on the left is able to even understand it much less discuss it.
Have a lovely day.
All I know is you voted for Trump because the cost of things was too much. I think you called it inflation.
Then Trump got in and tariffed everything and that's going to cost each of us on average $2400. The average family is going to pay $2400 MORE now that Trump is president.
BECAUSE Trump is president. You said inflation the last 4 years was Biden's fault. Well Trump's inflation is just getting started. $2400 is the least you are going to pay.
And wait till Trump's new stooge lowers interest rates. That's going to cause inflation.
I can't help but to educate people who refuse to be educated too. Perhaps it's theraputic or cathartic for me.
justoffal
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Boy you really don't read too many of my posts do you? Like I said Lefty doesn't understand a partial decision because he never makes one.
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No. Because Trump and MAGATS attack others.
I'd rather have senile Biden than insane Trump who is also senile. We see Trump making all the same mistakes Biden made. He's only 2 years behind him.
How many of you said "if one party would just give us a younger candidate" and we gave you Kamala. Still it wasn't going to be good enough for you. You found something to cry about. She didn't win the nomination you said. Big deal. Biden did a great job getting us out of Trump's mess. Same way Obama got us out of Trump's mess.
Now here we are Trump's causing another mess. The vaccine he hid from us. Now they are hiding the jobs numbers from us. Anyone who tells the truth gets fired or sued.
justoffal
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Well keeping the interest rate high hasn't helped shit. Lowering the interest rate will produce a real estate boom which may domino effect over into other parts of the economy...
One sure way to go down to hell in a handbasket is to keep everything status quo.
justoffal
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Kamala had less common Sense than Biden did.
Go ahead try and end round around the elective process again and see what happens.
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