If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.

[Hafar1014]

Crime is not down because of trump.

Yes it is sincd he took over the policing of crime
However, since the Guard's arrival, the city has experienced a notable decline in criminal activity.


https://foxbaltimore.com/newsletter...-crime-rates-with-seven-days-homicide-freeFor the first time in a long time, D.C. has gone seven days without a homicide. Carjackings have decreased by 83%, robberies by 46%, car thefts by 21%, and overall violent crime is down 22%.

In 7 days

 

[Hafar1014]

If you want to claim the context has a meaningful effect on her statement, it’s up to you to prove this is the case.

Please provide an unbiased source that shows the “context” has any impact.

Who cares

National Guard's presence slashes D.C. crime rates, with seven days homicide-free

WASHINGTON — The recent deployment of the National Guard in Washington, D.C., has led to a significant decrease in crime, despite initial skepticism from locals

foxbaltimore.com

 

[Chuz Life]

You won't win points with me or any other Trump supporter by attacking the man. I will take an imperfect person who actually cares about America and Americans and is accomplishing great things for them any time and any place over a slick politician who looks and sounds good on camera but is undermining everything America was intended to be.

You want to break through to Trump supporters? Focus on what he is actually accomplishing and honestly represent it rather than spew dishonest propaganda and talking points.

When you can demonstrate half the energy and work ethic Trump brings to the job, then you can criticize how he uses his time.

I didn't mention tariffs anywhere in this thread, but for the record, the leftists all said the tariffs would crash the economy, escalate inflation, swell the deficit. None of that has happened. But one by one we are getting good trade deals from countries that formerly thought they could exploit us forever. And mega billions are pouring into the U.S. treasury.

The days of America being everybody's patsy, free security blanket, sugar daddy are over under Trump and hopefully now far beyond Trump if we can keep the power out of the hands of the Democrats until we can 'get through to them' and they again love America and what it is intended to be.

You need to put this in tard language or they just won't get it.

Like. . .

Ummmm. . .

Nevermind. Fuckem.

 

[SurferH2O]

One more time. It is a very simple fact to acknowledge. I will put the link below and a screen shot.

It’s not a trick. Just simple tell me that you can see from that chart that oil output got to record levels under Biden. That will tell me you are not in a cult and can debate the nuances of energy policy and all the stuff you linked. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is tell me that you can see the facts below that oil output got to record levels under Biden. That is it.

U.S. Field Production of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

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You ignored my entire post... just to beat a broken drum. Do you have nothing to actually offer?

 

[MarathonMike]

I was struck by the revelations of text messages by Jeanine Pirro to Ronna McDaniel for two reasons. But first, here is what she wrote.

Ms. Pirro, a former Fox News host who is now the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., told Ronna McDaniel, then the Republican National Committee chair, in a text in the months before the election: “I work so hard for the President and the party.” Ms. Pirro had been pushing for a pardon from Mr. Trump for her ex-husband, Smartmatic argues.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/business/media/fox-news-trump-election-documents.html

A weekend personality on Fox made her case for her ex-hubby's pardon by sending the message about how she used her position as a broadcaster to work for trump and the Repub party. Other text messages from other anchors show just how much Fox was in the tank for trump by fomenting the "stop the steal" lie. This, from a cable station many millions of conservatives rely on for accurate information to inform their opinions. The problem being, it isn't accurate.

As a quick aside, consider how radically different the political landscape would be if the Fox talking heads had done what they should have done, what the facts told them to do, acknowledge trump's defeat.

The second thing is Pirro was rewarded for her hard work shilling for trump by being nominated to be the US Attorney for DC. Replacing Ed Martin.......a man so corrupt even Senate Repubs refused to confirm him. Repubs had no problem confirming Pirro despite the obvious compromise of her ethics and lack of ability to make impartial prosecutorial decisions. A furtherance of the corruption of the judiciary by trump as a reward for Jeanine's loyalty.

Back to my original question. How can I get trump devotees to take the small step of recognizing Jeanine Pirro should not have been nominated, nor confirmed, to be DC's US Attorney in light of this unequivocal evidence? Because if you can, perhaps you can take the next step. Maybe look in to Ed Martin and why Repubs refused to confirm him. More importantly, ask yourselves how trump could have put him in a temporary role as US Attorney in the first place and then assigned him to work for the DoJ.

Then maybe, just maybe, you can take the final step. You can ask yourselves why being in agreement with trump on border security has translated to support of what happened to Andry Hernandez Romero. Or this...........

Father of 3 Marines Who Was Beaten by ICE Agents Released, Leaving Family to Process His Detention​

Father of 3 Marines Who Was Beaten by ICE Agents Released, Leaving Family to Process His Detention | Military.com

www.military.com

Or this.........

Judge calls Trump DOJ’s request to release Epstein grand jury records a ‘diversion’​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/20/trump-epstein-grand-jury-judge-diversion.html

Or this.......

Trump says U.S. will not approve solar or wind power projects​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/20/trump-says-us-will-not-approve-solar-or-wind-power-projects.html

Or this.........

Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?​

Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?

President Trump says he plans to sign an executive order "to end mail-in ballots, because they're corrupt." Here's what to know about his claims.

www.cbsnews.com

You voted for Biden and you support the Stalinist Democrats. YOU are the one in need of a break through.

 

[berg80]

Further they refuse to debate the policies. They are vacuous and empty of understanding, ideas, vision. They have no plan.

I keep hearing that. Did you know the POT did not issue a policy platform at the convention because of trump's mercurial nature? But Dem's put one out at theirs.

Tell ya what. Give me an example of the Dem's lack of understanding on an issue.

 

[citygator]

I love that the DemoKKKrat platform is now maximum oil drilling and more wars.

Love it!

You notice he went into hiding unable to admit that oil output under Biden was at record levels? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he'll pop back in during the next recess at the penitentiary.

As to your comment, all the democrats want to do is hasten the transition to renewables not cut our nose off to spite our face. You right wing nuts only know ditch to ditch analysis.... we cant take small steps because the world will end if we take a giant leap all at once.

 

[citygator]

Further they refuse to debate the policies. They are vacuous and empty of understanding, ideas, vision. They have no plan. They've been ordered to attack and denigrate and lie about Trump and distort and divert no matter what the topic is. Trump supporters will never be swayed by attacking him. We support Trump not because he is a perfect person or even because we necessarily like him. We support him for his vision, instincts, intuitiveness, skill set, courage, willingness to work without stopping to make good things happen and he gets very good results from those efforts.

I cant get a single one of you to admit that oil output under Biden was record levels. I even posted the records above. How about you? Can you admit that oil output under Biden broke records?

 

[Billiejeens]

When you voted for trump could you imagine he would try to erase some of the history of slavery from the nation's museums?

That's not happening.

 

[Foxfyre]

If you want to claim the context has a meaningful effect on her statement, it’s up to you to prove this is the case.

Please provide an unbiased source that shows the “context” has any impact.

I don't have the time to educate in the basics of logic, reason, context. And I don't take orders from trolls who can't back up their arguments. Do have a nice day.

 

[berg80]

90% of their energy has been spent protesting, insulting, name calling and becoming violent.

Let's not bring up Jan. 6 right now, okay?

 

[berg80]

You won't win points with me or any other Trump supporter by attacking the man.

We can't have a meaningful discussion if you see a recitation of the facts as attacking trump...........and by extension you.

 

[struth]

I keep hearing that. Did you know the POT did not issue a policy platform at the convention because of trump's mercurial nature? But Dem's put one out at theirs.

Tell ya what. Give me an example of the Dem's lack of understanding on an issue.

Here's the 2024 GOP Party Platform that was released: READ: The 2024 Republican Party platform

Here's an example of the Demafascsit not understanding the issues:

 

[justoffal]

Let's not bring up Jan. 6 right now, okay?

J6ers were idiots I never said differently.

 

[berg80]

I will take an imperfect person who actually cares about America

Beyond lip service, there is absolutely no indication he gives a shit about America. If he did he would not have tried to subvert the will of Americans by plotting to steal the 2020 election. Himself, now that's another kettle of fish.

 

[berg80]

J6ers were idiots I never said differently.

Not just idiots. Violent criminals who trump pardoned.

 

[Foxfyre]

You need to put this in tard language or they just won't get it.

Like. . .

Ummmm. . .

Nevermind. Fuckem.

I know. But the Good Lord seems to have infused in me a syndrome that makes it very difficult for me to pass up a chance to teach something that is important when it is dropped in my lap.

But honestly, I can't tell if some of these people are being deliberately obtuse trying to start a food fight on a thread they started but is going badly for them or whether they really are so clueless and ignorant they are incapable of understanding much of anything.

Some are simply too stupid, whether intentionally or in fact, to even respond to.

So I violate it a lot, but it does help a little to remember to implement my New Year's resolution to not feed the trolls, argue with idiots or engage in other exercises in futility.

 

[berg80]

You want to break through to Trump supporters? Focus on what he is actually accomplishing and honestly represent it rather than spew dishonest propaganda

Please do point out the propaganda.

 

[berg80]

But the Good Lord seems to have infused in me a syndrome that makes it very difficult for me to pass up a chance to teach something

I'm afraid you think way too highly of yourself. You are addled with factual inaccuracies regarding every subject you write about.

 

[Foxfyre]

I keep hearing that. Did you know the POT did not issue a policy platform at the convention because of trump's mercurial nature? But Dem's put one out at theirs.

Tell ya what. Give me an example of the Dem's lack of understanding on an issue.

You hear that a lot because it's true.

Do you know that your request/demand here is completely off topic for your thread? And irrelevant to anything that has been argued in this thread?

If you want to discuss that, why not start a thread on that topic?