If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.

[Hafar1014]

Or Biden is as sharp as a tack

They don't understand partial decisions. A dedicated Lefty is 100% All In on leftism.
Keep pushing man into girls restrooms... Keep allowing transgender men to kick the shot out of biological women in sports.... Continue to shower billions and billions of dollars on illegal immigrants who are demons really being chosen over American citizens by the United States government..... And watch how many more move from one party to the other even though they have to hold their nose to do it.

The beauty if the death spiral of democrats is they have no idea its happening.

 

[berg80]

You don't get it...do you, Berg? You keep thinking this is a communication problem...that your "messaging" isn't right! That if you can just make people understand that your agenda is good for them and that you know better than they do...that they'll all nod their heads and trot down to the polls and vote Democrat in the next election!

Sorry, but no. Which is not to say communication isn't part of the issue. At least in the sense of conservatives relying on the kind of poison folks like Pirro puts out on the airwaves. As shown by the recently revealed internal emails and text messages within employees at Faux. Like this...........In one text message, Mr. Watters, who now hosts “Jesse Watters Primetime” on Fox News, said to his colleague Greg Gutfeld: “Think about how incredible our ratings would be if Fox went ALL in on STOP THE STEAL,” a reference to the movement trying to overturn the results of the election.

I'm not crazy enough to think any one of you will change your party or your votes because of something I post.

But I think it's a fair question to ask whether there are no other qualified conservative lawyers available to fill the role of DC US Attorney? Why Pirro. Known for her rhetoric, not for her legal expertise. Especially after she compromised herself by explaining to McDaniel how she had abused her role as a broadcaster and violated the trust of her audience by "working hard for trump and the party."

What makes it so goddamn hard for you people to admit her nomination and confirmation showed bad judgement by trump and Senate Repubs? That it was a mistake. That loyalty and a willingness to carry out a corrupt agenda is the measuring stick trump uses for appointments, not service to the people in Pirro's jurisdiction.

 

[Foxfyre]

Here's the huge disconnect for those who want to "get through to Trump voters".

Most "Trump voters" are voting for policies, not the man. You think that attacking Trump constantly will do something, but you're tilting at windmills. You're foolish people. If you can attack the policies, then you would be somewhere, but you can't, because Democrat policies border on insane and are often Marxist/Authoritarian.

Further they refuse to debate the policies. They are vacuous and empty of understanding, ideas, vision. They have no plan. They've been ordered to attack and denigrate and lie about Trump and distort and divert no matter what the topic is. Trump supporters will never be swayed by attacking him. We support Trump not because he is a perfect person or even because we necessarily like him. We support him for his vision, instincts, intuitiveness, skill set, courage, willingness to work without stopping to make good things happen and he gets very good results from those efforts.

 

[Foxfyre]

How does the context change anything about what was quoted in the article?

Context puts a person's intent and actual meaning/understanding into its proper perspective. "Proof texting', i.e. taking something out of its full context in attack articles and trolls on the internet deliberately makes that something into what it doesn't say or mean.

 

[berg80]

I honestly believe he brings more vision, insight, instincts, courage, skill set to the equation than any President of my now very long lifetime.

Putting aside his documented moral degeneracy, let's talk about that belief. For example, do you believe the first hand accounts from former staff that he regularly eschews intel briefings? Would you agree any insight he may have is compromised by not having a complete understanding of conditions around the world?

Trump has sat for only 12 ‘daily’ intelligence briefings since taking office​

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/09/trump-intelligence-briefing-frequency-00338946

If you'd rather, we can talk about tariffs. Again, putting aside the constant flip flopping, does it trouble you that he does not understand who ultimately pays for them given that it is the grounding principle of his economic policy........besides tax cuts for the wealthy causing the deficit to balloon further?

Recapping Trump’s Deceptive Tariff Claims​

Recapping Trump's Deceptive Tariff Claims - FactCheck.org

After months of delay, higher tariffs that President Donald Trump had vowed to impose on goods imported from dozens of countries went into effect on Aug. 7. Trump has made a series of false and misleading statements to justify his new tariff policies. Here is a recap of some of his claims that...

www.factcheck.org

Does he get credit for the instinct that lead to the failed summit with N. Korea?

Is it courageous to surround himself with lackeys too afraid to challenge his beliefs?

 

[jc456]

How can you debate policies with a group of people who wont acknowledge basic facts in the process?

what fact do you wish to discuss? Let's have it and do it.

 

[justoffal]

You don't get it...do you, Berg? You keep thinking this is a communication problem...that your "messaging" isn't right! That if you can just make people understand that your agenda is good for them and that you know better than they do...that they'll all nod their heads and trot down to the polls and vote Democrat in the next election!

Here's reality. People have seen what happens when liberal Democrats have power. They see it in California. They see it in Chicago. They see it in New York City. They see it in Portland. They see it in Washington DC. THEY DON'T WANT THAT!!! I can't be any more plain than that. People are abandoning the Democrat Party. The young voters that you used to take for granted? They're not registering as Democrats. Record numbers of them are registering as Republicans!

90% of their energy has been spent protesting, insulting, name calling and becoming violent.
I'm amazed that they don't understand that their strategy is not working and yet here we are.

 

[berg80]

They don't understand partial decisions. A dedicated Lefty is 100% All In on leftism.

Says the guy who is 100% all in for Dotard.

 

[Foxfyre]

Putting aside his documented moral degeneracy, let's talk about that belief. For example, do you believe the first hand accounts from former staff that he regularly eschews intel briefings? Would you agree any insight he may have is compromised by not having a complete understanding of conditions around the world?

If you'd rather, we can talk about tariffs. Again, putting aside the constant flip flopping, does it trouble you that he does not understand who ultimately pays for them given that it is the grounding principle of his economic policy........besides tax cuts for the wealthy causing the deficit to balloon further?

You won't win points with me or any other Trump supporter by attacking the man. I will take an imperfect person who actually cares about America and Americans and is accomplishing great things for them any time and any place over a slick politician who looks and sounds good on camera but is undermining everything America was intended to be.

You want to break through to Trump supporters? Focus on what he is actually accomplishing and honestly represent it rather than spew dishonest propaganda and talking points.

When you can demonstrate half the energy and work ethic Trump brings to the job, then you can criticize how he uses his time.

I didn't mention tariffs anywhere in this thread, but for the record, the leftists all said the tariffs would crash the economy, escalate inflation, swell the deficit. None of that has happened. But one by one we are getting good trade deals from countries that formerly thought they could exploit us forever. And mega billions are pouring into the U.S. treasury.

The days of America being everybody's patsy, free security blanket, sugar daddy are over under Trump and hopefully now far beyond Trump if we can keep the power out of the hands of the Democrats until we can 'get through to them' and they again love America and what it is intended to be.

 

[Godboy]

" How to. Get through to Trump Voters"???


That's easy: call the call them Maggats, Tell them that they're stupid, remind them of how ignorant they are, continue to make long and verbose posts highlighting the mental retardation of Trump voters, never let a day pass without calling out the social guilt that all Trump supporters are responsible for and above all never ever consider that such a person might be able to make their own decision without your help.

That should do it.

Dont forget to call us racists too!

 

[Marener]

Context puts a person's intent and actual meaning/understanding into its proper perspective. "Proof texting', i.e. taking something out of its full context in attack articles and trolls on the internet deliberately makes that something into what it doesn't say or mean.

I understand what context means in general.

I was asking specifically about this instance of Pirro misrepresenting the charges, how does the context of her specific statement change anything?

 

[IM2]

" How to. Get through to Trump Voters"???


That's easy: call the call them Maggats, Tell them that they're stupid, remind them of how ignorant they are, continue to make long and verbose posts highlighting the mental retardation of Trump voters, never let a day pass without calling out the social guilt that all Trump supporters are responsible for and above all never ever consider that such a person might be able to make their own decision without your help.

That should do it.

You are stupid, ignorant, and racist. You are responsie fr socia prbems because of what you believe the arrogance to believe it's the one and only right way, and the will to force your draconian beliefs on people, even if you have to violate the Constitution to get it done. And it should be called out consistently until it stops. No one should stay silent about this just because it will upset some MAGAT.

 

[Foxfyre]

I understand what context means in general.

I was asking specifically about this instance of Pirro misrepresenting the charges, how does the context of her specific statement change anything?

You are focused on one line within a much larger context. You are ignoring the extensive discussions Pirro has had on that topic. "Proof texting" is the method of the intellectually lazy or the fanatic who won't look at anything other than the point he/she wants the other to think.

Based on your comment, you don't have a clue what context means.

 

[Hafar1014]

Sorry, but no. Which is not to say communication isn't part of the issue. At least in the sense of conservatives relying on the kind of poison folks like Pirro put out on the airwaves. As shown by the recently revealed internal emails and text messages within employees at Faux. Like this...........In one text message, Mr. Watters, who now hosts “Jesse Watters Primetime” on Fox News, said to his colleague Greg Gutfeld: “Think about how incredible our ratings would be if Fox went ALL in on STOP THE STEAL,” a reference to the movement trying to overturn the results of the election.

I'm not crazy enough to think any one of you will change your party or your votes because of something I post.

But I think it's a fair question to ask whether there are no other qualified conservative lawyers available to fill the role of DC US Attorney? Why Pirro. Known for her rhetoric, not for her legal expertise. Especially after she compromised herself by explaining to McDaniel how she had abused her role as a broadcaster and violated the trust of her audience by "working hard for trump and the party."

What makes it so goddamn hard for you people to admit her nomination and confirmation showed bad judgement by trump and Senate Repubs? That it was a mistake. That loyalty and a willingness to carry out a corrupt agenda is the measuring stick trump uses for appointments, not service to the people in Pirro's jurisdiction.

Crime is down its working democrats oppose thats just plain stupid

 

[Chuz Life]

Sorry, but no. Which is not to say communication isn't part of the issue. At least in the sense of conservatives relying on the kind of poison folks like Pirro put out on the airwaves. As shown by the recently revealed internal emails and text messages within employees at Faux. Like this...........In one text message, Mr. Watters, who now hosts “Jesse Watters Primetime” on Fox News, said to his colleague Greg Gutfeld: “Think about how incredible our ratings would be if Fox went ALL in on STOP THE STEAL,” a reference to the movement trying to overturn the results of the election.

I'm not crazy enough to think any one of you will change your party or your votes because of something I post.

But I think it's a fair question to ask whether there are no other qualified conservative lawyers available to fill the role of DC US Attorney? Why Pirro. Known for her rhetoric, not for her legal expertise. Especially after she compromised herself by explaining to McDaniel how she had abused her role as a broadcaster and violated the trust of her audience by "working hard for trump and the party."

What makes it so goddamn hard for you people to admit her nomination and confirmation showed bad judgement by trump and Senate Repubs? That it was a mistake. That loyalty and a willingness to carry out a corrupt agenda is the measuring stick trump uses for appointments, not service to the people in Pirro's jurisdiction.

That was damn powerful post.

I don't believe you wrote that yourself.

Did Brandon and Camel Toe help you with that?

They know a lot about bad picks, favoritism, incompetence, being in over their heads, etc.

 

[IM2]

You won't win points with me or any other Trump supporter by attacking the man. I will take an imperfect person who actually cares about America and Americans and is accomplishing great things for them any time and any place over a slick politician who looks and sounds good on camera but is undermining everything America was intended to be.

You want to break through to Trump supporters? Focus on what he is actually accomplishing and honestly represent it rather than spew dishonest propaganda and talking points.

I didn't mention tariffs anywhere in this thread, but for the record, the leftists all said the tariffs would crash the economy, escalate inflation, swell the deficit. None of that has happened. But one by one we are getting good trade deals from countries that formerly thought they could exploit us forever. And mega billions are pouring into the U.S. treasury.

The days of America being everybody's patsy, free security blanket, sugar daddy are over under Trump and hopefully now far beyond Trump if we can keep the power out of the hands of the Democrats until we can 'get through to them' and they again love America and what it is intended to be.

Trump should be attacked, and if you worship him then nobody cares about what points to score with you. Your last sentence shows that you live in a world that doesn't exist. America has not been the things you claim.

 

[Marener]

You are focused on one line within a much larger context. You are ignoring the extensive discussions Pirro has had on that topic. "Proof texting" is the method of the intellectually lazy or the fanatic who won't look at anything other than the point he/she wants the other to think.

Based on your comment, you don't have a clue what context means.

If you want to claim the context has a meaningful effect on her statement, it’s up to you to prove this is the case.

Please provide an unbiased source that shows the “context” has any impact.

 

[IM2]

Crime is down its working democrats oppose thats just plain stupid

Crime is not down because of trump.

 

[Hafar1014]

Trump should be attacked, and if you worship him then nobody cares about what points to score with you. Your last sentence shows that you live in a world that doesn't exist. America has not been the things you claim.

Change the word attack a simple thing like that can get you in trouble try opposed

 

[berg80]

Trump lost a rigged election in 2020. Happy now?

Why would I be happy about you reciting a lie?