If science discovers that Israeli Jews are not the Jews of the Bible
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Why?
What difference does it make to what is happening today?
Genetics is utterly irrelevant - no one is going anywhere.
Yes.
Roudy
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It would if this baiting thread were moved there.
This is just another one of these bogus conspiracy bullshit theories that have been attempted and debunked a hundred thousand times before.
Humans share 50 DNA with bananas The fascinating facts about the scientific world around us - Mirror Online
[SEE: Nebel et al., High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews. Human Genetics Vol. 107, No. 6,]
"A sample of 526 Y chromosomes representing six Middle Eastern populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel; Muslim Kurds; Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area; and Bedouin from the Negev) was analyzed for 13 binary polymorphisms and six microsatellite loci. The investigation of the genetic relationship among three Jewish communities revealed that Kurdish and Sephardic Jews were indistinguishable from one another, whereas both differed slightly, yet significantly, from Ashkenazi Jews. The differences among Ashkenazim may be a result of low-level gene flow from European populations and/or genetic drift during isolation. Admixture between Kurdish Jews and their former Muslim host population in Kurdistan appeared to be negligible. In comparison with data available from other relevant populations in the region, Jews were found to be more closely related to groups in the north of the Fertile Crescent (Kurds, Turks, and Armenians) than to their Arab neighbors. The two haplogroups Eu 9 and Eu 10 constitute a major part of the Y chromosome pool in the analyzed sample.
With all the presasures that the full rights would bring, I wonder where they would go when their rights were removed for treason and terrorism ?
pbel
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Phoney: "Humans share 50 DNA with bananas" Is that why you've gone BANANAS?
Certificate of Sanity!!! Please.
Challenger
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That would put them in Modern Iraq or Iran...wonder if Phoney even knows what mitochondrial DNA even is?
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Nope, he's still going strong. His methods were criticised by the usual suspects, but that's to be expected; reputations at stake and all that. He's one of many scientists that are taking another look at genetic studies carried out by Jewish geneticists, that tried to "prove" a genetic link to ancient Hebrews. Shlomo Sand has described some of these "studies" as loosing an arrow, seeing where it lands and then painting the target around it, to score a bullseye.
Challenger
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What's to answer? It's a factoid from a newspaper that proves nothing other than perhaps Jewish people's DNA is 50% the same as that of a banana....hmmm
Oh, the word is "credible" meaning believable; "creditable" (even when spelled correctly) means praiseworthy or admirable.
What's to answer? It's a factoid from a newspaper that proves nothing other than perhaps Jewish people's DNA is 50% the same as that of a banana....hmmm
It shows how team Palestine is manipulating DNA results to support their ill founded claims and losing in the face of science.
Challenger
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...and another genetic study states,
"More recent studies of the distribution of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which, like Judaism is passed along the maternal line, indicate that Ashkenazi mtDNA is highly distinctive, with four major and numerous minor founders. All four founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders, share a similar deep European ancestry. Thus, the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages are assimilated within Europe (Figure 5). These results point to a significant role for horizontal phylogeneses due to the conversion of women in the formation of Ashkenazi communities in prehistoric Europe (Costa et al., 2013).
Whereas on the male side there may have been a significant Near Eastern (and possibly east European/Caucasian) components in Ashkenazi ancestry, the maternal lineage mainly trace back to prehistoric Western Europe (Costa et al., 2013, p. 2).
Overall, it seems that at least 80% of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry is due to assimilation of mtDNAs indigenous to Europe, most likely through conversion (Costa et al., 2013, p. 8)." Frontiers Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent Evolutionary and Population Genetics
Modern Ashkenazis are European descendants of converts, it seems. If we had mapped the Human Genome by the start of the 20th century, Zionists would have been laughed out of every Synagogue in Europe and Palestine would be just another Muslim state in the Middle East.
Challenger
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What's to answer? It's a factoid from a newspaper that proves nothing other than perhaps Jewish people's DNA is 50% the same as that of a banana....hmmm
It shows how team Palestine is manipulating DNA results to support their ill founded claims and losing in the face of science.
The crazy thing is that NONE of this genetic stuff matters.
The facts are:
The Palestinians are there and have been for a long time (regardless of what label you apply)
The Jews have been a sustained presence for a long time as well
At one time the Palestinians were a community that included Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze and other religious minorities.
There has been extensive Arab immigration.
There has been extensive European immigration.
So what does that mean in relation to the situation today?
Nothing.
Nada.
You can't say one people has a greater right to be there than the other.
The facts are:
The Palestinians are there and have been for a long time (regardless of what label you apply)
The Jews have been a sustained presence for a long time as well
At one time the Palestinians were a community that included Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze and other religious minorities.
There has been extensive Arab immigration.
There has been extensive European immigration.
So what does that mean in relation to the situation today?
Nothing.
Nada.
You can't say one people has a greater right to be there than the other.
Roudy
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Ha ha ha. Shlomo Sand is an author not a geneticist, and far from an authority on Jewish heritage and ancestry, he's just an Israeli leftist nutjob who makes money bashing his country. We have them here too.
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