If Reparations are ever Paid to Blacks for being Descendents of Slaves, Can we be Sure that none of the Payments Will Ever go to . . .

[Ms. Turquoise]

I've never heard anyone explain sufficiently just how those who would (very theoretically) qualify for these imaginary reparations would be determined.

Easy. If you can prove you had an ancestor who was enslaved, you'd qualify.

 

[San Souci]

How can we pay reparations to descendants of slaves when we are paying billions in reparations to those who stormed the Capital on Jan 6?

Still on that crap? BORING!

 

[Lisa558]

Easy. If you can prove you had an ancestor who was enslaved, you'd qualify.

I’d actually support that, with one exception: black students admitted to prestigious colleges and grad schools under standards that would have had them rejected if white already received reparations.

The colleges themselves admit it’s about two out of three.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Easy. If you can prove you had an ancestor who was enslaved, you'd qualify.

OK. Say you have one slave ancestor, how much do you get?

 

[IM2]

Being ignored has benefits. Jus' sayin'.

She doesn't post facts, and she is a racist Jew wh I call ho because of her rank racism. This heifer has run from every direct challenge I have made to her to discuss everything she's lying to you about now.

For example:

By the 1930s anti-Jewish racism was at an all-time high, but Jewish American racial identity quickly shifted again. Partially, this was because Jews were an important part of president Franklin D. Roosevelt’s political coalition. As such, he discouraged questioning Jewish racial identity as anything but white, and fought hard against nativists and anti-Semitism, declaring that all immigrants were “full Americans.” When the US entered WWII against Germany, many Americans stopped identifying Jews as a separate race in opposition to the genocidal racial ideas of Nazis. Most importantly, when the US military racially segregated WWII army units, they placed Jews in white units, thus affirming Jews’ status as whites. By the time the veterans came home, Jews were generally considered white again; then they advanced economically and took part in the 1950s exodus of white Americans from inner cities to the suburbs.[6]

20th century Jews navigated the changes to their racial identity in diverse ways. Many resisted being called white because they identified with the struggles of black Americans, seeing their own history of persecution in the discrimination faced by African Americans. These Jews benefitted from their privilege as white Americans, but maintained a desire for a distinct racial identity from the white people they saw as oppressive. However, other Jews, particularly those in the South who might suffer violence if they supported their black neighbors, were far more comfortable affirming their status as white, and some even worked to maintain white supremacy. Regardless, Jews often struggled to reconcile the benefits of being white in the US with their desire to maintain a distinct Jewish racial identity rooted in a history of persecution

https://rpl.hds.harvard.edu/religion-context/case-studies/minority-in-america/racial-identity-us-jews

Nineteenth-century Jewish leaders wanted Jews to be considered “American citizens of Jewish faith” — and white, she notes. Whiteness gave them the right to immigrate to the U.S. and become citizens, the author explains.

“More established and acculturated Jews tried to convince the Jewish masses … that they needed to present themselves to the non-Jewish public as more white than ethnic, more all-American than other, dissuading them from forming ‘Hebrew’ political and workingman’s clubs.”

Some Jewish immigrants rejected racial definitions, Tamkin says. While race was all-important in America, in Eastern Europe Jews thought of themselves as a people or an ethnicity.

“Was the question of racial sameness or distinctiveness, some wondered, even relevant to them?”

Nonetheless, the idea of the importance of Jews being seen as white extended into the 20th century. American Jews understood persecution. They knew that assimilation endangered their language and traditions. Still, many Jews decided “to move closer to the white American mainstream. It was the white mainstream that promised stability and safety.”

How Jews became white

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Jews and the Atlantic Slave Trade

Analysis of the Jewish involvement in the Transatlantic slave trade

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Jewish Slave Owners in America: A Complex History and Its Modern Relevance – Vintage – Old is Gold

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She wants to lecture me about how the poor oppressed Jews came to America with nothing, and they have succeeded because of their superior morals, how they stressed education and valued hard work. That's not how it happened, and she is an illustration of everything I said about these Jim Crow babies who post in here.

I put her on ignore because she doesn't want to debate the facts, and I won't be listening to her lie over and over so f-k her.

 

[IM2]

Easy. If you can prove you had an ancestor who was enslaved, you'd qualify.

We don't have to do that since we have ancestors who were affected by Jim Crow, and we are living while enduring the effects of modern racism.

 

[Lisa558]

OK. Say you have one slave ancestor, how much do you get?

I have a logical answer, based on precedent.

Let’s consider DIRECT survivors of the Holocaust, who suffered the loss of their families, their homes, their livelihoods, and often their health for the rest of their lives. These poor souls suffered seeing their kids ripped from their arms, were starved half to death, lived in squalor and constant fear of their lives.

For this, my (step)grandfather received reparations. In the mid-1970s, he was getting $8,000 a year from Germany, which in today’s dollars is $45,000.

Now let’s compare the DIRECT suffering and torture of Holocaust survivors, who were left physically maimed, without a home, without family members, and without their business or profession. I’d say that it is 100x worse than black people who heard tell that an ancestor was a slave, but who they themselves grew up in an environment free of systemic racism and often actually received favoritism for college and grad school admissions.

Since the Holocaust survivors’ horror was 100x worse, I’d say $450 a year would be fine. In actuality, I’d say it was 1000x worse. (Remember, we’re not comparing slaves to Holocausr survivors - we’re comparing people who had an ancestor who was a slave to Holocaust survivors.) In that case, it would be $45 a year.

But I hear talk of million dollar lump sum payouts, $100,000 a year payments, and free houses. Ridiculous.

 

[IM2]

Unkotare said:

"I've never heard anyone explain sufficiently just how those who would (very theoretically) qualify for these imaginary reparations would be determined."

This idiot says he's a school teacher. And people who believe that public schools are f-d up, look at this moon.

An Historical Timeline of Reparations Payments Made From 1773 through 2026 by the United States Government, States, Cities, Religious Institutions, Universities, Corporations, and Communities​

Reparations Payments Made in the United States by the Federal Government, States, Cities, Religious Institutions, Universities, and Corporations

1700-1899​

1773: The first case involving the rights of enslaved people in Essex County, Massachusetts, was tried in the Court of Common Pleas. Richard Greenleaf was charged with "trespass for inslaving [sic] the plaintiff", Caesar Hendrick. He was found liable for £18 in damages and costs. (History Happenings: Oct. 2, 2020. (2020, October 2). Daily News of Newburyport, The (MA). Access World News.)

1781: Anthony (Tony) and Cuba had been enslaved by John Vassall until John fled for England. When the master's estate was confiscated, Tony petitioned the Massachusetts legislature seeking title to the plot of land on which he had been enslaved for over 40 years. They were evicted from the land but the legislature awarded them an annual pension of £12 from the sale of the estate. (Though dwelling in a land of freedom. (2018). National Park Service.)

1783: Belinda Sutton (also Royal or Royall) was born in modern-day Ghana in 1713, and sold into slavery as a child to Isaac Royall in Massachusetts. After 50 years of enslavement she was made a freedwoman when Royall fled to Nova Scotia. Sutton petitioned the commonwealth of Massachusetts for a pension. In 1783 she was awarded a pension of 15 pounds, 12 shillings, to be paid from the estate of Isaac Royall. (We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy by Ta-Nehisi Coates, p. 176 in the chapter "The Case for Reparations", 2017.)

1863: Over four days In July mobs of white New Yorkers terrorized Black people by roaming the streets from City Hall to Gramercy Park to past 40th Street, setting fire to buildings and killing people. The overall death toll is estimated at between over 100 and over 1,000. Immediately after the riots, the white merchants of New York ("Report of the Merchants' Committee for the Relief of the Colored People Suffering from the Late Riots in the City of New York", 1863 booklet) combined forces to raise money to care for the injured, repair the damaged property, and support the legal and employment needs of the community's Black people. The shopkeepers raised over $40,000, equivalent to $825,000 in 2021. ("The Real Story of the 'Draft Riots'" by Elizabeth Mitchell, The New York Times, February 18, 2021.)

1865: On January 12, in the midst of the Civil War, General William T. Sherman and U.S. secretary of war Edwin M. Stanton met with 20 Black leaders in Savannah Georgia. Four days later, General Sherman issued Special Field Order No. 15 stating that Black people would receive an army mule and not more than forty acres on coastal plains of South Carolina and Georgia. By June, roughly 40,000 Blacks had settled on four hundred thousand acres of land before Confederate landowners, aided by the new Johnson administration, started taking back "their" land. (Secondary source: How To Be An Antiracist (2019) by Ibram X. Kendi, p.174; primary sources cited by Kendi: See The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1895-37-41); "Sherman's Special Field Orders, No.15", in The Empire State of the South: Georgia History in Documents and Essays, ed. Christopher C. Meyers (Macon, GA: Mercer University Press, 2008, 174).)

1866: Southern Homestead Act: "Ex-slaves were given 6 months to purchase land at reasonable rates without competition from white southerners and northern investors. But, owing to their destitution, few ex-slaves were able to take advantage of the program. The largest number that did were located in Florida, numbering little more than 3,000... The program failed."

1878: In 1853, Henrietta Wood was a free black woman living and laboring as a domestic worker in Cincinnati when she was lured across the Ohio River and into the slave state of Kentucky by a white man named Zebulon Ward. Ward sold her to slave traders, who took her to Texas, where she remained enslaved through the Civil War. Wood eventually returned to Cincinnati, and in 1870 sued Ward for $20,000 in damages and lost wages. In 1878, an all-white jury decided in Wood's favor, with Ward ordered to pay $2,500 (approximately $68,000 in 2023), perhaps the largest sum ever awarded by a court in the United States in restitution for slavery. ("The Ex-Slave Who Sued, and Won" by W. Caleb McDaniel, The New York Times, September 5, 2019.)

1900-1949​

1924: With the Pueblo Lands Act of 1924, Congress authorized the establishment of the Pueblo Lands Board to adjudicate land title disputes, along with a payment of $1,300,000 to the Pueblo for the land they lost (although the Pueblo disputed the amount). (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 335).)

1927: The Shoshones were paid over $6 million for land illegally seized from them (although it was only half the appraised value of the land). (Race, Racism, and Reparations by J. Angelo Corlett, 2003, Cornell University Press, p. 170.)

1934: Congress passed the Indian Reorganization Act which authorized $2 million a year in appropriations for the acquisition of land for Indians (except for the state of Oklahoma and the territory of Alaska until 1936). Congress made appropriations until 1941. In total $5.5 million was appropriated for 400,000 acres of land, and further legislation added 875,000 acres to reservations. One million acres of grazing land and nearly one million acres intended for homesteading were returned to the tribes. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, pp. 228-341).)

1944: As Attorney General of California, Earl Warren sued the federal government in the Court of Claims on behalf of California's Native Americans after failure to ratify solemn treaties with various tribes. The plaintiffs were eventually awarded $17 million, although after "costs" deducted by the federal government, the amount was whittled to $5 million. ("Short Overview of California Indian History" by Edward D. Castillo, State of California Native American Heritage Commission, n.d.; see also Indians of California by Bureau of Indian Affairs, 1966.)

1946: Congress created the Indian Claims Commission to hear fraud and treaty violation claims against the United States government. The Commission was adjourned in 1978 with all pending cases transferred to the United States Court of Claims. By this time the Commission had adjudicated 546 claims and awarded more than $818 million in judgments. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 346).)

1950-1969​

1950: The Navajo-Hopi Rehabilitation Act was passed, authorizing an appropriation of $88,570,000 over 10 years for a program benefiting the Navajo and Hopi, including soil conservation, education, business and industry development on reservation, and assistance in finding employment off-reservation. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 348).)

1956: The Pawnees were awarded more than $1 million in a suit brought before the Indian Claims Commission for land taken from them in Iowa, Kansas, and Missouri. (Race, Racism, and Reparations by J. Angelo Corlett, 2003, Cornell University Press, p. 170.)

1962: Georgia restored many Cherokee landmarks, a newspaper plant, and other buildings in New Echota. It also repealed its repressive anti-Native American laws of 1830. (Race, Racism, and Reparations by J. Angelo Corlett, 2003, Cornell University Press, p. 170.)

1968: In the United States Court of Claims case Tlingit and Haida Indians of Alaska v. United States, the plaintiff tribes won a judgment of $7.5 million as just compensation for land taken by the United States government between 1891 and 1925. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 399).)

1969: The Black Manifesto was launched in Detroit as one of the first calls for reparations in the modern era. Penned by James Forman, former SNCC (Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee) organizer, and released at the National Black Economic Development Conference, the manifesto demanded $500 million in reparations from predominantly White religious institutions for their role in perpetuating slavery. About $215,000 (other sources say $500,000) was raised from the Episcopalian and Methodist churches through rancorous deliberations that ultimately tore the coalition apart. The money was used to establish organizations such as a black-owned band, television networks, and the Black Economic Research Center. ("Black and Blue Chicago Finds a New Way to Heal" by Yana Kunichoff and Sarah Macaraeg, YES Magazine, Spring 2017; From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the 21st Century by William A. Darity, Jr. and A. Kirsten Mullen (Chapel Hill, NC: UNC Press, 2020, pp. 14-15).)

1970-1989​

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N'COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. ("The Tuskegee Timeline", CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1988: Civil Liberties Act of 1988: President Ronald Reagan signed a bill providing $1.2 billion ($20,000 a person) and an apology to each of the approximately 60,000 living Japanese-Americans who had been interned during World War II. Additionally, $12,000 and an apology were given to 450 Unangans (Aleuts) for internment during WWII, and a $6.4 million trust fund was created for their communities. ("U.S. pays restitution; apologizes to Unangan (Aleut) for WWII Internment," National Library of Medicine.)

1989*: Congressman John Conyers, D-Michigan, introduced bill H.R. 3745, which aimed to create the Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act. The bill was introduced "[to] address the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to study and consider a national apology and proposal for reparations for the institution of slavery, its subsequent de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes." (Preamble)

* Congressional actions

1990-2009​

The reparations payments marked with † are taken from "How Chicago Became the First City to Make Reparations to Victims of Police Violence" by Yana Kunichoff and Sarah Macaraeg, YES Magazine, Spring 2017; and Long Overdue: The Politics of Racial Reparations: From 40 Acres to Atonement and Beyond by Charles P. Henry, 2007, NYU Press.

1993, *: U.S. Congress passed a joint resolution acknowledging and apologizing to Native Hawaiians the illegal United States-aided overthrow of the sovereign Hawaiian nation.

1994: The state of Florida approved $2.1 million for the living survivors of a 1923 racial pogrom that resulted in multiple deaths and the decimation of the Black community in the town of Rosewood. ("Rosewood Massacre: A Harrowing Tale of Racism and the Road toward Reparations" by Jessica Glenza, The Guardian, January 3, 2016.)

1995†**: The Southern Baptists apologized to African American church members for the denomination's endorsement of slavery.

1997†**: President Bill Clinton apologized to the survivors of the U.S. government-sponsored syphilis tests in Tuskegee, Alabama.

1998†: President Clinton signed into law the Sand Creek Massacre National Historic Study Site Act, which officially acknowledges an 1864 attack by seven hundred U.S. soldiers on a peaceful Cheyenne village located in the territory of Colorado. Hundreds, largely women and children, were killed. The act calls for the establishment of a federally funded Historic Site at Sand Creek, which was established in 2007.

1999†: A class action lawsuit by black farmers against the United States Department of Agriculture was settled by a consent decree, leading to nearly $1 billion in payments to plaintiffs. The lawsuit alleged systematic racial discrimination in the allocation of farm loans from 1981 to 1996. A further $1.2 billion was appropriated by Congress for the second part of the settlement. (The Pigford Cases, Congressional Research Service, May 29, 2013; see also Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil by Susan Neiman (New York: Macmillan, 2019).)

2001†: The Oklahoma legislature passed and Governor Keating signed a bill to pay reparations for the destruction of the Greenwood, Oklahoma, community in 1921 in the form of low-income student scholarships in Tulsa; an economic development authority for Greenwood; a memorial; and the awarding of medals to the 118 known living survivors of the destruction of Greenwood.

2002: Parties in the case of Ayres v. Fordice, a lawsuit first brought in 1975, agree on a settlement of $503 million. The lawsuit alleged that the state of Mississippi had systematically underfunded or otherwise neglected its Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) as compared with other post-secondary institutions, and essentially creating a system of segregation based on race. The settlement money would be used for improving academic programs and for capital investments. (Harris, A. (2021). Thirteen years a remedy, thirty years a fight, two centuries a struggle. In The state must provide: Why America's colleges have always been unequal—And how to set them right (pp. 163-196). New York: Ecco.)

2002**: Governor Mark Warner of Virginia issued a formal apology for the state's decision to forcibly sterilize more than 8,000 of its residents. ("Va. Apologizes to the Victims of Sterilizations" by William Branigin, Washington Post, May 3, 2002.)

2004**: The faculty senate at the University of Alabama passed a resolution apologizing for its early faculty members' involvement in slavery prior to the Civil War. (Harris, L. M. (2020, January 29). Higher education's reckoning with slavery. AAUP.)

2005†, *: The U.S. Senate approved, by voice vote, S.R. 39, which called for the lawmakers to apologize to lynching victims, survivors, and their descendants, several whom were watching from the gallery.

2005: Virginia, five decades after ignoring Prince Edward County and other locales that shut down their public schools in support of segregation, is making a rare effort to confront its racist past, in effect apologizing and offering reparations in the form of scholarships. With a $1 million donation from the billionaire media investor John Kluge and a matching amount from the state, Virginia is providing up to $5,500 to any state resident who was denied a proper education when public schools shut down. So far, more than 80 students have been approved for the scholarships and the numbers are expected to rise. Several thousand are potentially eligible. ("A New Hope For Dreams Suspended By Segregation", The New York Times, July 31, 2005 by Michael Janofsky.)

2005: Banking corporation JPMorgan Chase issues an apology for their historical ties to the slave trade. The corporation set up a $5 million scholarship fund for black students to attend college. The scholarship program, called Smart Start Louisiana, was likened to reparations by several commentators, including Rev. Jesse Jackson. ("JPMorgan: Predecessors linked to slavery", January 21, 2005, Associated Press; "JP Morgan Chase Creates 'Smart Start Louisiana'", Howard University News Service.)

2007-2008**: State legislatures in Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Alabama, New Jersey, and Florida passed measures apologizing for slavery and segregation. (From Here to Equality: Reparations for Black Americans in the 21st Century by William A. Darity, Jr. and A. Kirsten Mullen (Chapel Hill, NC: UNC Press, 2020, p. 24).)

2008/2009†, *: U.S. House Resolution 194 and Senate Concurrent Resolution 26 made a formal apology to the African American community for "centuries of brutal dehumanization and injustices." Plus, there was an admission that "African Americans continue to suffer from the complex interplay between slavery and Jim Crow long after both systems were formally abolished through enormous damage and loss, both tangible and intangible, including the loss of human dignity."

* Congressional actions

** Apologies from government institutions and other organizations

2010-2019​

The reparations payments marked with † are taken from "How Chicago Became the First City to Make Reparations to Victims of Police Violence" by Yana Kunichoff and Sarah Macaraeg, YES Magazine, Spring 2017; and Long Overdue: The Politics of Racial Reparations: From 40 Acres to Atonement and Beyond by Charles P. Henry, 2007, NYU Press.

2014: The state of North Carolina set aside $10 million for reparations payments to living survivors of the state's eugenics program, which forcibly sterilized approximately 7,600 people. ("North Carolina Set To Compensate Forced Sterilization Victims" by Scott Neuman, NPR, July 25, 2013; "Families of NC Eugenics Victims No Longer Alive Still Have Shot at Compensation" by Anne Blythe, News & Observer (Raleigh, N.C.), March 17, 2017.)

2015†: The City of Chicago signed into law an ordinance granting cash payments, free college education, and a range of social services to 57 living survivors of police torture (Burge Reparations). Explicitly defined as reparations, which totaled $5.5 million, the ordinance includes a formal apology from Mayor Rahm Emanuel and a mandate to teach the broader public about the torture through a memorial and public school curriculum.

2016†: Georgetown University has acknowledged that the school has profited from the sale of slaves and has "reconciled" by naming two buildings after African Americans and offer preferred admission to any descendants of slaves who worked at the university.

2016: The state of Virginia, one of more than 30 other states that practiced forced sterilizations, followed North Carolina's lead and has since 2016 been awarding $25,000 to each survivor. ("Virginia Votes Compensation for Victims of its Eugenic Sterilization Program" by Jaydee Hanson, Center for Genetics and Society, March 5, 2015.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. ("U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes" by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state's salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That's Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)

2019*: Senator Cory Booker, D-New Jersey, introduced bill S. 1083 (H.R. 40 Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act) in the Senate that would provide for a commission to study and report on the impact of slavery and discrimination against Black Americans and deliver a verdict on different proposals for reparations. The bill "is a way of addressing head-on the persistence of racism, white supremacy, and implicit racial bias in our country. It will bring together the best minds to study the issue and propose solutions that will finally begin to right the economic scales of past harms and make sure we are a country where all dignity and humanity is affirmed." (Press release, April 8, 2019.)

2019***: "Students at Georgetown University voted to increase their tuition to benefit descendants of the 272 enslaved Africans that the Jesuits who ran the school sold nearly two centuries ago to secure its future." In a nonbinding student-led referendum, "the undergraduate student body voted to add a new fee of $27.20 per student per semester to their tuition bill, with the proceeds devoted to supporting education and health care programs in Louisiana and Maryland, where many of the 4,000 known living descendants of the 272 enslaved people now reside." ("Georgetown Students Agree to Create Reparations Fund" by Adeel Hassan, The New York Times, April 12, 2019.)

2019: Catholic nuns of the Society of the Sacred Heart introduced a scholarship fund to benefit African-American students at their school in Louisiana, along with a memorial to the 150 enslaved persons who labored to build the schools. (Swarns, R. L. (2019, August 2). The nuns who bought and sold human beings. The New York Times; Jones, T. L. (2018, March 11). Society of the Sacred Heart hopes for understanding, reconciliation as it delves into its history of slave ownership. The Advocate.)

2019: The Virginia Theological Seminary has earmarked $1.7 million to pay reparations to descendants of African Americans who were enslaved to work on their campus. The first payments of $2,100, to 15 recipients, were distributed in February 2021. ("Virginia Theological Seminary, With Deep Roots in Slavery, Sets Aside $1.7 Million to Pay Reparations" by Dara Sharif, The Root, September 10, 2019; Wright, W. (2021, May 31). Seminary built on slavery and Jim Crow labor has begun paying reparations. The New York Times.)

2019: Princeton Theological Seminary announced a $27 million commitment for various initiatives to recognize how it benefited from black slavery. This is the largest monetary commitment by an educational institution. ("WWJD: Princeton Theological Seminary Announces $27 Million Reparations Plan" by Anne Branigin, The Root, October 24, 2019.)

2019: Georgetown University announced that it would raise about $400,000 a year to benefit descendants of the 272 enslaved people who were sold to aid the college 200 years ago, and the funds will be used to support community projects. While students would be involved in the initiative, they would not be required to pay extra fees; the money would be raised through voluntary donations from alumni, faculty, students, and philanthropists. ("Descendants of 272 Slaves Offered Aid By Georgetown" by Rachel Swarns, The New York Times, October 30, 2019.)

2019: A convention of the Episcopal Diocese of New York voted to allocate $1.1 million to initiate a reparations program. (Episcopal Diocese of New York. (2019, November 10). Diocesan Convention votes $1.1 million towards reparations, passes 1860 anti-slavery resolutions.)

2019: The City Council of Evanston, Illinois, voted to allocate the first $10 million in tax revenue from the sale of recreational marijuana (which became legal in the state on January 1, 2020) to fund reparations initiatives that address the gaps in wealth and opportunity of black residents. "This week's City Council vote appears to have made Evanston the first municipal government in the nation to create and fund its own reparations program." Note: While Chicago created a program to compensate victims of police torture (see above), the reparations were not primarily race-based. ("Future Weed Revenue Will Fund Evanston's New Reparations Program" by Jonah Meadows, Patch, November 27, 2019; Associated Press. (2021, March 23). Evanston, Illinois, becomes first U.S. city to pay reparations to Black residents. NBC News.)

* Congressional actions

** Apologies from government institutions and other organizations

*** First college students to vote to financially support reparations

2020-present​

2020: The Episcopal Diocese of Texas (whose first bishop, Alexander Gregg, was a slave holder) pledged $13 million for a racial justice project. (Downen, R. (2020, February 13). Texas Episcopalians pledge $13M to 'repair and commence racial healing'. Houston Chronicle.)

2020: The University of Mississippi has apologized to dozens of African Americans who were arrested in 1970 for protesting racial inequality and Confederate imagery on campus. ("Ole Miss Apologizes to Black Protesters Arrested in 1970", Associated Press, February 26, 2020.)

2020: The Museum of Fine Arts in Boston reached an agreement with the Massachusetts Attorney General's Office to implement policies and procedures, and a $500,000 fund, to address diversity issues. The agreement follows an incident of racial discrimination towards black students visiting the museum in May 2019. ("AG's Office and Museum of Fine Arts Reach Historic Agreement to Support Diversity and Inclusivity", MFA Press Release, May 5, 2020.)

2020: The town of Asheville, North Carolina, voted to give reparations to its black residents, in the form of a public apology and investing in black communities. ("A Liberal North Carolina Town Has Unanimously Voted to Give its Black Residents Reparations" by Anne Branigin. The Root, July 15, 2020.)

2020: At the recommendation of the Racial Equity Task Force, Durham, N.C., city officials passed a resolution calling for the federal government to grant reparations to the descents of Black slaves. (Branigin, A. (2020, October 6). Durham, Washington, D.C., become latest cities to call for reparations for black residents. The Root.)

2020: The "Fund for Reparations Now" was established to raise $150,000 for the descendants of the Elaine, Arkansas massacre in which at least 200 African Americans were killed. The fund is a collaborate effort amongst the Elaine Legacy Center, the National African American Reparations Commission, and the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference. As of December 2020, $50,000 has been contributed to the fund. (National groups honor pledge to descendants of Elaine, Arkansas massacre. (December 15, 2020).)

2021: Memorial Episcopal Church in Baltimore, Maryland, created a fund to spend $100,000 per year over the next five years, for community organizations to do "justice-centered work" to address historical racial inequalities. The church had been founded by slave owners in the 1860s. (Pitts, J. M. (2021, January 29). Episcopal church established by Baltimore slave owners creates $500,000 reparations fund. Baltimore Sun.)

2021: The Jesuit Conference of Priests pledged to raise $100 million for the descendants of enslaved people. This pledge is the largest monetary effort of the Roman Catholic Church to atone for its role in slavery. $15 million has already been deposited into a trust as of March 2021. (Swarns, R. L. (2021, March 15). Catholic order pledges $100 million to atone for slave labor and sales. The New York Times.)

2021*: The Maryland legislature passes a bill (PDF) subsequent to the settlement of the lawsuit The Coalition for Equity and Excellence in Maryland Higher Education, et al. v. Maryland Higher Education Commission, et al., which alleged that the state failed to sufficiently desegregate its colleges and universities. The legislation provides for $577 million over 10 years to be used for various programs benefitting the state's Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). (Douglas-Gabriel, D., & Wiggins, O. (2021, March 24). Hogan signs off on $577 million for Maryland's Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The Washington Post.)

2021**: The commissioners of the county of Athens-Clarke, Georgia, pass a proclamation to extend an apology for an act in the 1960s whereby the Linnentown community of Black families was appropriated and destroyed to build dormitories for students of the University of Georgia. Two weeks later the commissioners voted in favor of a resolution to erect a memorial on the site, create a center to study slavery, and set aside funding for reparatory projects (based on the amount of intergenerational wealth lost due to the destruction of the Linnentown community). (Cohen, R. M. (2021, April 9). Inside the winning fight for reparations in Athens, Georgia. The Intercept.)

2021*: A Congressional House committee voted to recommend the advancement of bill H.R. 40 (Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans Act), which would provide for the creation of a commission to study slavery reparations. The bill was introduced by Sheila Jackson Lee, D-TX, and co-sponsored by 184 other House Democrats. (Fandos, N. (2021, April 14). House panel advances bill to study reparations in historic vote. The New York Times.)

2021: The town council of Amherst, Massachusetts voted to establish a reparations fund that will begin with a $210,000 special appropriation and accept contributions from local organizations. The town also approved the establishment of the African Heritage Reparations Assembly to develop the reparations plan. (Merzbach, S. (2021, June 23). Amherst council establishes reparations fund. Daily Hampshire Gazette.)

2023: In 1924, land owned by the Bruce family in Manhattan Beach, California, was seized via eminent domain by the city, who wanted to build a park there. The Bruce family had already faced harassment from white residents, and the Ku Klux Klan had attempted to burn down the resort that sat on the property. In July 2022 the land was returned to the family's descendants, who then sold it back to Los Angeles County for $20 million. (Ardrey, T. (2023, January 4). A Black California family is selling the land stolen from their ancestors back to LA County for $20 million. Insider.)

2024: The San Diego City Council unanimously voted to support California's statewide reparations package, although they also recommend adding financial compensation. (Wu, J. (2024, August 5). 'This thing doesn't happen overnight': San Diegans push for reparations for Black Californians. San Diego Union-Tribune.)

2024**: California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill formally apologizing for the harms of slavery and racial discrimination against African Americans. He had previously vetoed SB-1050, which proposed compensation for land taken through racially motivated eminent domain, citing the lack of an administering agency. A companion bill, SB-1403, which would have created the California American Freedmen Affairs Agency to provide genealogy services, social support, and oversee a land claims process, had been blocked at the last minute by the California Legislative Black Caucus under pressure from the Governor, who had privately threatened a veto. (Holden, L. (2024, August 31). California slavery reparations bills unraveled over Gavin Newsom amendments. POLITICO; Holden, L. (2024, September 26). Gavin Newsom signs California apology for slavery and discrimination. POLITICO.)

2024: The city council of Palm Springs, California, approved a $5.9 million settlement for survivors and descendants of Section 14, an historically Black and Latino neighborhood that had been destroyed 60 years ago for commercial development. The agreement compensates around 1,200 individuals, establishes a cultural healing center and a public monument, and allocates $21 million for housing and economic programs prioritizing former residents. (Bolaños, M. (2024, November 15). Palm Springs OKs $5.9 million in reparations for Black and Latino families whose homes the city burned. KQED.)

2024: The city council of Sacramento, California, passed two resolutions related to reparations in the city. The first resolution was to incorporate racial equity into the city's operations, and the second was to expand the reparations initiatives out of the mayor's office into a city-wide program. (Sanchez, S. T. (2024, December 4). Sacramento City Council approves historic resolutions to advance racial equity and reparations. ABC10.)

2025*: Congressional Rep. Ayanna Pressley reintroduces H.R. 40, Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans Act, which had been initially introduced by Rep. John Conyers in 1989 and then every year since. (Gaynor, G. K. (2025, February 12). An emotional Rep. Ayanna Pressley takes up historic legacy of reparations bill H.R. 40. TheGrio.)

2025**: The city council of Decatur, Georgia, unanimously passed a resolution to create a Reparations Task Force to study the city's history of slavery, segregation, and economic disenfranchisement of its African American citizens, and recommend policy actions. The resolution also included an acknowledgement of past injustices and an official apology. (Raby, D. (2025, May 6). Decatur approves reparations task force, apologizes to Black residents. FOX 5 Atlanta.)

2025: In December 2022, 26 survivors and descendants of Black families displaced from Portland, Oregon's Albina neighborhood sued the city, development agencies, and a hospital for demolishing over 180 properties, many owned by Black residents. In 2025, Portland agreed to a settlement of $8.5 million (up from an initial $2 million), plus property restitution, a historic exhibit, a documentary, and other reparative actions. (Dhenin, M. (2025, August 15). 'We opened a door nobody knew existed': How displaced Black families won reparations in Portland. Fox 41 Yakima.)

2025: In October 2025, the Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration transferred ownership of the Marywood Franciscan Spirituality Center in Arbor Vitae, Wisconsin, to the Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa for $30,000 (the amount the congregation originally paid in 1966). This is first instance of a Catholic institution returning land to First Nations as a gesture of reparation. (Stockman, D. (2025, November 3). In act of reparation, Franciscan sisters return land to Chippewa Indians in Wisconsin. National Catholic Reporter.)

2025: The city of Santa Monica, California, approved a $350,000 settlement with the family of Silas White, whose Ebony Beach Club project was impeded when the city seized the property through eminent domain in the 1950s. The agreement includes commemorations (a library exhibit, a street renaming, and Silas White Day) and ensures the family will be eligible in any future reparations process. The city also plans to propose a broader reparations program by 2026. (Hall, M. (2025, November 20). City settles Ebony Beach Club case for $350,000. Santa Monica Daily Press.)

2025: Forest Hill Presbyterian Church in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, awarded its first Racial Education Debt Repair Award, providing $65,000 in student loan forgiveness to one African American woman as part of a broader effort to address historic racial financial inequities. (Johnson, Z. (2025, November 24). Cleveland Heights church walks a path to racial reparations through college debt forgiveness. WVXU.)

2025: The Pennsylvania State Historical and Museum Commission have approved a highway marker commemorating the Myers family, the first Black family to live in Levittown. In 1957 the family were set upon by mobs who subjected them to racial threats and violence, including cross-burning. The highway marker will be located in the Dogwood Hollow district where the family lived. (PA OKs sign to mark "Our Rosa Parks Moment," memorializing Levittown's first Black family. (2025, September 26). The Keystone.)

* Congressional actions

** Apologies from government institutions and other organizations

*** First college students to vote to financially support reparations

Reparations initiatives in progress​

Reparations Initiatives in Progress​

2020: The city council of Burlington, Vermont, voted in a resolution to create a task force to study possible reparations for the state's involvement in the slave trade. A Racial Justice Fund was created to fund the work of the task force. This resolution follows the Resolution Relating to Racial Justice Through Economic and Criminal Justice (archived PDF) which was passed in June. (Press Release. "Burlington City Council votes unanimously to pass a historical reparations resolution to study reparations for Vermont's role in chattel slavery" (2020, August 11). VTDigger.)

2020: California enacts a new law to create a task force to determine how the state could provide reparations to Black Americans and who would be eligible. (Linly, Z. (2020, October 1). California passes bill to consider slavery reparations. The Root.)

2021: The Northampton (MA) Reparations Committee (NRC) began meeting in March 2021. In the fall of 2022, the NRC began circulating a reparations petition asking the Northampton City Council to (1) Investigate the historical and current effects of enslavement and racism against Black people in Northampton; and (2) Make recommendations for reparative actions in Northampton as a response to issues apparent in housing, employment, policing, schools, healthcare, and transportation. The NRC also called upon the City Council to make a formal apology to the past and present residents of Northampton for the historic harm that has occurred and the current harm and to fund the Commission's research and publish its findings. In February 2023, a resolution to take action will be presented to the City Council.

2021: In 2021 the Episcopal Diocese of Virginia adopted Resolution R-10a, pledging a $10 million reparations fund over five years to support Black, Indigenous, and other communities of color, recognizing the Diocese's historical complicity with slavery, Indigenous dispossession, and segregation. The resolution directs the creation of a Reparations Task Force to recommend options for repair. (Reparations. (2023, December 7). Episcopal Diocese of Virginia.)

2022: Harvard University published a report (Harvard & the Legacy of Slavery) detailing how the institution benefitted from the enslavement of Black people in the United States. The university has also pledged $100 million for a fund to continue researching its ties to slavery, and for programs of reconciliation and redress. (Chang, C. J., & Cho, E. (2022, April 27). Harvard pledges $100 million to redress ties to slavery. The Harvard Crimson.)

2022: The city council of Boston, Massachusetts, voted to create a task force to study slavery and its contribution to wealth and other inequality in the region. (Casey, M. (2022, December 14). Boston City Council votes to study reparations for Black Bostonians. Boston.Com.)

2022: The city council of High Point, North Carolina, established the One High Point Commission by a 5-4 vote. The commission is charged with studying the history of racial injustice in the city and the city and recommending reparative actions. (Tumultuous year for reparations board. (2022, December 27). High Point Enterprise.)

2023: The City of St. Paul, Minnesota, created the St. Paul Recovery Act Community Reparations Commission to research possibilities for reparations to descendants of enslaved Africans. (McGee, N. A. (2023, January 5). Minnesota city creates committee to give reparations to descendants of enslaved Africans. The Root.)

2023: The city of Detroit, Michigan, has assembled a group of citizens to lead a task force to recommend how to address systemic discrimination against the Black community, such as housing and economic development. The initiative was passed by 80% of voters in Detroit to create the Committee of the Reparations Taskforce in November 2021. (Aguilar, L. (2023, February 24). Detroit reparations movement takes step forward. The Detroit News.)

2023: San Francisco, California's government-appointed African American Reparations Advisory Committee recommended that the city's Black residents be paid $5 million each in reparations for historical public policies that reflected the intent of chattel slavery. The committee chair stated that the program "could represent a significant enough investment in families to put them on this path to economic well-being, growth and vitality that chattel slavery and all the policies that flowed from it destroyed." (Felton, E. (2023, February 28). San Francisco debates reparations: $5 million each for Black residents? Washington Post.)

2023: The town of Amherst, Massachusetts has provided a $2 million endowment fund for reparations, coming from tax proceeds of cannabis sales. The African Heritage Reparation Assembly issued a report (PDF) with recommendations on how the funding is to be spent. (Casey, M. (2023, October 16). Slavery reparations in Amherst Massachusetts could include funding for youth programs and housing. AP News.)

2023: The State of New York passes legislation to create a commission to study the legacy of slavery in the state and recommendations for reparative actions to address racial inequalities. The commission is to present a report of its findings to the legislature in 2025. (Tomkin, A. (2024, August 12). New York's Reparations Commission starts its work. City Limits.)

2024: The mayor of Chicago, Illinois, has signed an executive order to create a task force to study and define reparations, identify areas for redress, and make recommendations for remedies and restitution. (Mayor's Press Office. (2024, June 17). Mayor Brandon Johnson signs historic executive order to launch Black reparations task force and agenda. City of Chicago.)

2024: After the Oklahoma Supreme Court rejected a lawsuit for reparations from survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre — where a white mob killed 300 Black residents and destroyed the Greenwood District — city officials have created a commission to consider this option. The commission will focus on initiatives like housing equity, educational opportunities, and economic development for survivors and their descendants. (Associated Press. (2024, August 5). Tulsa commission will study reparations for 1921 race massacre victims and descendants. NBC News.)

2024: In Colorado $900,000 has been raised to establish a 14-person commission to study racial equity, pursuant to legislation (SB24-053). The Black Coloradan Racial Equity Study Commission, based at History Colorado and chaired by Senate President James Coleman, had its first meeting in October 2024. The study will take three years to complete and will include community input sessions, economic analysis, and recommendations. (Tassy, E. (2024, November 14). History Colorado hiring staff for state-mandated study into whether systemic harm happened to Black people. Colorado Public Radio.)

2024: The St. Louis (Missouri) Reparations Commission released a report recommending the city take actions to address historical and current racial injustices towards the city's African American community. Suggestions include cash payments as well as official acknowledgment and apology for racially motivated harms. (Hays, G. (2024, December 4). In St. Louis, a new reparations report details how the city can act on racial injustice. PBS News.)

2024: The Northampton Commission for the Study of Reparations (Massachusetts) released a preliminary report (PDF) recommending a number of actions to address the historic wrongs towards Black residents of the town caused by slavery and its aftermath. (MacDougall, A. (2024, December 13). Early report from reparations panel finds Blacks endured historic wrongs in Northampton. Daily Hampshire Gazette.)

2025: A new law in Washington, D.C., has taken effect, allowing the city to explore reparations for Black residents who are descendants of slaves or affected by Jim Crow-era policies. The legislation establishes a 12-member commission to study the city's history of slavery and discrimination, develop reparations proposals, and set up a payment fund. (Delaney, M. (2025, March 6). D.C. reparations law takes effect, opening door for payments to Black residents. The Washington Times.)

2025: Tulsa, Oklahoma's first Black mayor, Monroe Nichols, unveils a $105 million private "Road to Repair" trust to fund reparation initiatives addressing the impact of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre that took place in the city's Greenwood neighborhood ("Black Wall Street"). The plan allocates $24 million for housing, $60 million for historic preservation, and $21 million for scholarships, small-business grants, and efforts to identify massacre victims in mass graves. (Burch, A. D. S., & Kerr, B. (2025, June 1). $105 million reparations package for Tulsa Race Massacre unveiled by mayor. The New York Times.)

2025: Governor Gavin Newsom signed five bills from California's "Road to Repair 2025" package, advancing the state's reparations initiatives. Among these, SB 518 establishes the Bureau for Descendants of American Slavery to begin implementing the California Reparations Task Force's recommendations that include actions of restitution, compensation, public acknowledgment, and community investment. (Ladisch, V. (2025, October 19). Reparations bills establish foundation to turn California's vision into reality. KQED.)

2025: The New Jersey Reparations Council and the Detroit Reparations Task force have each released reports with recommendations for reparations in their jurisdictions. (New Jersey Reparations Council. (2025). For such a time as this: The nowness of reparations for Black people in New Jersey; Detroit Reparations Task Force. (2025). City of Detroit reparations recommendations report.)

2025: The Maryland legislature voted to override a previous veto by Governor Wes Moore of a bill that included the establishment of the Maryland Reparations Commission. The new law will establish a commission to study how institutions in the state benefitted from discriminatory policies of the late 19th century to middle 20th century, and provide recommendations for reparations. (Ford, W. J. (2025, December 17). Legislature overrides Moore's veto, approves creation of reparations commission. Maryland Matters.)

2025: At the end of 2025, San Francisco mayor Daniel Lurie signs into law an ordinance that establishes a reparations fund to address and repair harms to the city's black community. The fund will accept donations from individuals, corporations, and foundations, and possibly future budget appropriations. (Epps, K. (2025, December 31). $5 million reparations fund: From slavery's shadows, SF mayor signs historic measure for Black San Franciscans. San Francisco Bay View.)

2025: The Maryland Lynching Truth and Reconciliation Commission released a report on the state's complicity in racial violence against African Americans following the Civil War. Recommendations include a formal apology, payments to descendants of victims, and changes to the criminal justice system. (Nelson, J. Q. (2026, January 7). Maryland recommends $100K payments to descendants of lynching victims after study. AOL.)

2026: The Santa Monica City Council approved the establishment of a restorative justice program aimed at addressed the municipality's historical harms against African American residents. The program includes a $3.5 million fund, a commission to determine eligibility, and an independent administration to oversee the program. The funding is provided via the city's development agreement with RAND Corporation. (Casuso, J. (2026, January 28). Council approves $3.5 million for 'restorative justice' program. Lookout.)

2026: The trustees of the Episcopal Diocese of Southern Ohio have committed $500,000 in initial funding for a reparations program that creates an endowment fund to support four Black congregations in the state. The project is led by The Commission on Reparative Justice, which got its start in 2020. (ENS Staff. (2026, February 23). Southern Ohio is latest diocese to commit financial resources to racial reparations program. Episcopal News Service.)

2026: The Illinois African Descent-Citizens Reparations Commission released a research report on the harms caused to Black Illinoisans by slavery, racial violence, housing discrimination, and other injustices. (Zimmerman, B. (2026, February 27). State commission releases new report on racial injustice throughout Illinois history. WCIA.)

2026: The Reparations Committee of Evanston, Illinois, has begun accepting applications for a program that will provide business training and grants to Black entrepreneurs. The Economic Development Kickstarter Program is offered in association with Oakton College. (Ly, M. (2026, March 20). Reparations Committee opens up applications for Black business grant program. Evanston RoundTable.)

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[Bad Bob]

The problem with what you say and Lisa's incessant whining is a little thing called the Nakba, which Lisa will deny, and the Israeli govnment aparthied and consistent illegal expansion of settlements against agreements made.

Part of the problem I have with Israel's strategy.

OTOH, after constant attacks since 1948, I can see why the Israelis are skewing right. When one side is constantly screaming "From the River to the Sea" and blowing up innocent people on buses and in markets for decades, I can see why the other side gives up and says "F**k it".

As the Bill Maher "from the river to the sea" video mentioned, there have been a handful of attempts to negotiate a peace with the Palestinians, especially the Gazans....and all have been refused. The last time I was in Israel, I took my wife to Bethlehem. The Palestinian guides were very friendly and expressed a strong desire for peace. There was NFW I was going to go near Gaza. It's become a suicide cult.

The Israelis have made peace with most of the Arab nations and were on the cusp of signing a treaty with the Saudis when the Iranian-backed Gazans committed their atrocities on October 7th.

I'm saddened when a rabid dog has to be put down, but I understand why it has to be done.

 

[Bad Bob]

She doesn't post facts, and she is a racist Jew wh I call ho because of her rank racism. This heifer has run from every direct challenge I have made to her to discuss everything she's lying to you about now.

For example:

By the 1930s anti-Jewish racism was at an all-time high, but Jewish American racial identity quickly shifted again. Partially, this was because Jews were an important part of president Franklin D. Roosevelt’s political coalition. As such, he discouraged questioning Jewish racial identity as anything but white, and fought hard against nativists and anti-Semitism, declaring that all immigrants were “full Americans.” When the US entered WWII against Germany, many Americans stopped identifying Jews as a separate race in opposition to the genocidal racial ideas of Nazis. Most importantly, when the US military racially segregated WWII army units, they placed Jews in white units, thus affirming Jews’ status as whites. By the time the veterans came home, Jews were generally considered white again; then they advanced economically and took part in the 1950s exodus of white Americans from inner cities to the suburbs.[6]

20th century Jews navigated the changes to their racial identity in diverse ways. Many resisted being called white because they identified with the struggles of black Americans, seeing their own history of persecution in the discrimination faced by African Americans. These Jews benefitted from their privilege as white Americans, but maintained a desire for a distinct racial identity from the white people they saw as oppressive. However, other Jews, particularly those in the South who might suffer violence if they supported their black neighbors, were far more comfortable affirming their status as white, and some even worked to maintain white supremacy. Regardless, Jews often struggled to reconcile the benefits of being white in the US with their desire to maintain a distinct Jewish racial identity rooted in a history of persecution

https://rpl.hds.harvard.edu/religion-context/case-studies/minority-in-america/racial-identity-us-jews

Nineteenth-century Jewish leaders wanted Jews to be considered “American citizens of Jewish faith” — and white, she notes. Whiteness gave them the right to immigrate to the U.S. and become citizens, the author explains.

“More established and acculturated Jews tried to convince the Jewish masses … that they needed to present themselves to the non-Jewish public as more white than ethnic, more all-American than other, dissuading them from forming ‘Hebrew’ political and workingman’s clubs.”

Some Jewish immigrants rejected racial definitions, Tamkin says. While race was all-important in America, in Eastern Europe Jews thought of themselves as a people or an ethnicity.

“Was the question of racial sameness or distinctiveness, some wondered, even relevant to them?”

Nonetheless, the idea of the importance of Jews being seen as white extended into the 20th century. American Jews understood persecution. They knew that assimilation endangered their language and traditions. Still, many Jews decided “to move closer to the white American mainstream. It was the white mainstream that promised stability and safety.”

How Jews became white

Review “Bad Jews: A History of American Jewish Politics and Identities” by Emily Tamkin. New York: HarperCollins, 2022. 256 pages | $28.99. In her introduction, author Emily Tamkin writes that she wasn’t sure she should write this book because of her shaky Jewish background — she didn’t go to...

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Jews owned slaves.

Jews and the Atlantic Slave Trade

Analysis of the Jewish involvement in the Transatlantic slave trade

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Jewish Slave Owners in America: A Complex History and Its Modern Relevance – Vintage – Old is Gold

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Jewish slaveownesrs in america - Bing

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She wants to lecture me about how the poor oppressed Jews came to America with nothing, and they have succeeded because of their superior morals, how they stressed education and valued hard work. That's not how it happened, and she is an illustration of everything I said about these Jim Crow babies who post in here.

I put her on ignore because she doesn't want to debate the facts, and I won't be listening to her lie over and over so f-k her.

As long as both sides are going "cats'n'dogs" there will be no peace nor compromise.

 

[IM2]

As long as both sides are going "cats'n'dogs" there will be no peace nor compromise.

People have the right to defend themselves by fighting lies.

 

[Lisa558]

As long as both sides are going "cats'n'dogs" there will be no peace nor compromise.

Don’t forget: the Islamic terrorists, whom the Gazans voted for, set this off by committing the most barbaric, savage, subhuman massacre of innocent adults, children, and babies - simply because they were Jews - since the Holocaust.

I’d say the fact that Israel didn’t bomb the place to smithereens the following week, and instead sent out warning flyers and delayed the attack in order to reduce civilian casualties, speaks to Israel’s restraint.

 

[Lisa558]

As long as both sides are going "cats'n'dogs" there will be no peace nor compromise.

And P.S. The “Palestinians” do not want peace or compromise, or they would have accepted one of Israel’s previous peace offerings.

No, they want Israel wiped off the map. Israel wants to be able to exist.

 

[Bad Bob]

People have the right to defend themselves by fighting lies.

Yes they do.

That said, there's a difference between just beating one's opponent and winning in the long run. The whole "win the battle but lose the war" thing.

 

[Bad Bob]

And P.S. The “Palestinians” do not want peace or compromise, or they would have accepted one of Israel’s previous peace offerings.

No, they want Israel wiped off the map. Israel wants to be able to exist.

Not the Gazans. All the peaceful ones left years ago. I think many of the Palestinians on the West Bank would prefer peace over war....but I haven't been back to Israel for six years.

Agreed anyone who says "from the river to the sea" is advocating genocide. If they deny it they are either lying or stupid.

 

[IM2]

Yes they do.

That said, there's a difference between just beating one's opponent and winning in the long run. The whole "win the battle but lose the war" thing.

True. Winning the war means putting people into positions who will change policy.

 

[Lisa558]

Not the Gazans. All the peaceful ones left years ago. I think many of the Palestinians on the West Bank would prefer peace over war....but I haven't been back to Israel for six years.

Agreed anyone who says "from the river to the sea" is advocating genocide. If they deny it they are either lying or stupid.

I’m calling “Gazans” the Egyptians who live in Gaza.

 

[Bad Bob]

True. Winning the war means putting people into positions who will change policy.

True and a big part of doing that is winning over the public. Persuading them is produces better results than beating them about the head and shoulders.

FWIW, I was an Army brat who grew up in Truman's desegregated military. Most of my elementary schools were DOD schools. Kids of all skin tones and some with parents of different nationalities. When MLK was murdered and cities burned, I didn't "get" it. I was only 12, but it still was very strange to me. When I joined the military myself the idea of integration was reinforced as an adult.

When I see racists and misogynist MAGAts on USMB advocating stripping Americans of their Constitutional rights while claiming to be veterans or, worse, retirees, I have to question their sanity and/or their veracity.

 

[IM2]

Not the Gazans. All the peaceful ones left years ago. I think many of the Palestinians on the West Bank would prefer peace over war....but I haven't been back to Israel for six years.

Agreed anyone who says "from the river to the sea" is advocating genocide. If they deny it they are either lying or stupid.

I think that American Jews misuse that line while the Israeli government has been trying to remove Palestinians for decades.

“From the River to the Sea” is a phrase most recently heard by Pro-Palestinian protesters. It refers to the land between the Jorden River and the Mediterranean Sea; the land of historic Palestine which has been under dispute since Jewish aspirations for a homeland began to develop in the late nineteenth century.

But the phrase “From the River to the Sea” is not exclusively Palestinian. Although the exact origins are disputed, scholars such as Omer Bartov has placed its origins prior to the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, referring to a song written by Israeli founding father Ze’ev Jabotinski that claimed Jewish ownership over the entire area. The term was also used in the platform of the Israeli Likud Party as far back as 1977. The Likud Party has dominated Israeli politics for decades and continues to claim the Jordan River as the eastern boundary of the State of Israel.

Rashid Khalidi, a preeminent historian of Palestine, published an article in The Nation in November 2023 entitled “It’s time to confront Israel’s version of ‘From the River to the Sea’.” Khalidi writes:

“Far from being a mere slogan, the phrase captures both the longtime ambitions of the Israeli right and the reality Israel has imposed on Palestine since 1967.”

The aspirations of some Israelis to conquer all the land from the River to the Sea is borne out in a 2025 documentary by British filmmaker Louis Theroux, soon to be available on the BBC iPlayer if you’re in the UK, or on Apple TV soon. Theroux followed up the documentary with this article in the Guardian.

Certainly, the slogan has also been used by Pro-Palestinian movements, but the characterization of the phrase as a one-sided aspiration for a land grab is simply not grounded in fact.

https://palestinefaq.org/from-the-river-to-the-sea-is-an-israeli-slogan/

 

[Bad Bob]

I’m calling “Gazans” the Egyptians who live in Gaza.

No doubt there's a lot of mixing there. The antisemites scream about sending the Israeli Jews "back home" but are obviously too ignorant to know that almost 80% of Israelis were born there. It makes as much sense as Native Americans telling Euro-Americans to "Go home".

Israel is a Jewish nation, but its population is far from a monolith

The Israel-Hamas conflict is putting a spotlight on all of the different people affected by the war, including Israel soldiers from Ethiopian, Filipino and Bedouin backgrounds.

theconversation.com

Israel’s diversity​

Israel has close to 9.7 million residents. About 75% of these people identify as Jewish. Almost 80% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel. Much smaller groups of Israeli Jews were born in Africa and Asia, in countries including India and Uzbekistan.

Roughly 20% of Israelis are Arab, including Muslims, Christians and Druze, a group of people who observe a distinct monotheistic religion.