If Jesus couldn't keep HIMSELF out of trouble...

[daveman]

Nature is more powerful than I am, Davey. I can't wipe out whole cities the way tsunamis can.

And if there is some supreme being, why should Jesus have had any different a relationship with it than most other people?

You answered your own question: Yeshua could command nature, and did.

How do you know, without citing an account written long after his death?

I bet you've read -- and believe -- Howard Zinn.

Amirite?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Sure you like that. Ridicule is your shtick.

Yeah, but DAMN is she good at it.....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually, we usually hear about how you're so smart and anyone who disagrees with you is stupid.

Maybe the issue isn't that you're stupid because you disagree with her; perhaps the reason you disagree with her is that you are stupid?

 

[Uncensored2008]

You throw that out as an insult. A person who speaks more than one language is to be admired.

Um Sky? Your mastery of Pig Latin doesn't actually make you multilingual....

 

[Sky Dancer]

You throw that out as an insult. A person who speaks more than one language is to be admired.

Um Sky? Your mastery of Pig Latin doesn't actually make you multilingual....

Ix nay on the omments kay.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Sure you like that. Ridicule is your shtick.

Yeah, but DAMN is she good at it.....

Yes, she's quite skilled at it.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Bottom line. The Bible isn't for everyone.

It's great literature, but a lot of harm has come from making it into more than that.

And Communism, which is state-sponsored atheism, has killed a hundred million people.

Did you have a point?

dave--

I'm making no further comments about the Bible or Christianity.

 

[Wonky Pundit]

No, you misunderstood all the writing because it doesn't support what you claim about it.

And you've also misunderstood everything everyone here has said to correct your misunderstanding.

Deliberately, I expect. Because you can't tolerate the idea of a power higher than yourself.

Nature is more powerful than I am, Davey. I can't wipe out whole cities the way tsunamis can.

Yet nature isn't sentient.

And if there is some supreme being, why should Jesus have had any different a relationship with it than most other people?

So...you DIDN'T read the Bible.

It figures you'd try to put 2 and 2 together and end up with Wednesday.

 

[Wonky Pundit]

Bottom line. The Bible isn't for everyone.

It's great literature, but a lot of harm has come from making it into more than that.

And Communism, which is state-sponsored atheism, has killed a hundred million people.

Did you have a point?

I've had many, all of which you missed.

(And atheism isn't even necessary in a communist nation to begin with. There's no corrleation.)

 

[Wonky Pundit]

You answered your own question: Yeshua could command nature, and did.

How do you know, without citing an account written long after his death?

I bet you've read -- and believe -- Howard Zinn.

Amirite?

Noyouaint.

I know who he is and what his writings are generally about, but I haven't read them. Thanks for playing.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, she's quite skilled at it.

I just love witty and funny people. Cecil is tops.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Good luck with the thread, Wonky. You're on your own.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Yes, she's quite skilled at it.

I just love witty and funny people. Cecil is tops.

She's exeptional good at ridicule. It's easy to appreciate her when she's directing the ridicule at someone you disagree with.

 

[Uncensored2008]

She's exeptional good at ridicule.

She is exceptionally bright. When you say stupid things, she ridicules you in a clever and humorous way.

It's easy to appreciate her when she's directing the ridicule at someone you disagree with.

I appreciate her because she has brains - lots of them.

 

[Sky Dancer]

She's exeptional good at ridicule.

She is exceptionally bright. When you say stupid things, she ridicules you in a clever and humorous way.

It's easy to appreciate her when she's directing the ridicule at someone you disagree with.

I appreciate her because she has brains - lots of them.

Enjoy. That's how I feel about Modbert. He is really smart.

 

[Wonky Pundit]

Yes, she's quite skilled at it.

I just love witty and funny people. Cecil is tops.

She's exeptional good at ridicule. It's easy to appreciate her when she's directing the ridicule at someone you disagree with.

She used to be clever, but subsequently got lazy. Now she's trying to pawn off drivel that even WillowTree could manage to put together.

 

[Sky Dancer]

I just love witty and funny people. Cecil is tops.

She's exeptional good at ridicule. It's easy to appreciate her when she's directing the ridicule at someone you disagree with.

She used to be clever, but subsequently got lazy. Now she's trying to pawn off drivel that even WillowTree could manage to put together.

She intelligent, too bad she feels compelled to use it in ridicule. I'd find her arguments more convincing otherwise.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Enjoy. That's how I feel about Modbert. He is really smart.

My impression is that you're easily impressed...

 

[logical4u]

Not pretending that at all. Most of the people who wrote accounts about Yeshua probably believed them to the core. That doesn't mean their accounts were accurate.

From that statement, I can say that you don't believe any of the "written" history unless there are signed documents to back it up? You don't believe in the ancient cultures because there is no "accurate" accounts? You don't believe anything written about the middle ages because there are no "accurate" accounts?

I am so relieved, because for sure you can't "believe" in evolution, because there certainly aren't any "accurate" accounts of any of that BS.

Everyone is prone to error, and of course I'm not going to take just one historian's word at face value.

Most people look at corroborating evidence when they want to determine whether something is (at least probably) true. And yes, there's all sorts of non-written evidence about ancient cultures, the medieval period, and even evidence that supports Darwin's theory (imagine that!)

And surprise, that doesn't mean that Darwin explained it all perfectly, only that it's the best explanation for the evidence that has been developed so far.

Whoa, big boy, you'll hurt yourself trying to back paddle so fast!

How funny, there is more evidence and documents supporting the Biblical events than the 90 percent of the history, and there is no documentation of evolution occurring (fossils can be anything, and they do not have the time thing covered that well), yet you want to support "those" stories, and deny the Bible. You are now officially speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[daveman]

It's great literature, but a lot of harm has come from making it into more than that.

And Communism, which is state-sponsored atheism, has killed a hundred million people.

Did you have a point?

dave--

I'm making no further comments about the Bible or Christianity.

Okay. I was talking about atheism.