If Jefferson founded the Republican Party what place do Democrats have in America?

edward, you are not a conservative, merely a far right wing nut, so your characterization of me as a "liberal" (if that meant anything in the first place in this discussion) is silly.

OK, so you agree with the below, which is very smart of you.

Did the Democratic-Republican Party of Jeffersons morph into the Democratic Party? Does the party celebrate Jefferson?

Did the Federalists lead to the Whigs which led to the Republicans? Does the party celebrate Lincoln?

BOTH parties came from the Democratic/Republican Party:

Democratic Party - Profile of the Democratic Party

most importantly Jefferson Founded the Republican Party in 1792 to stand for freedom from government. Modern Republicans are identical in name and philosophy. Liberals were not present at the founding and so really don't belong in America.
 
The disaffected nationalist wing of the Democratic-Republican Party became the Whigs.

The GOP was made up of former Know-Nothings, Liberty Party and Free Soil Party members, and former Whigs.

The GOP adopted the nationalist big-government (federal support of internal improvements, high tariffs the right of the national government to enforce constitutional and electoral process on all of the states, westward expansion, and so forth) beliefs best associated with the Federalists and the Whigs.
 
edward, you are not a conservative, merely a far right wing nut, so your characterization of me as a "liberal" (if that meant anything in the first place in this discussion) is silly.

OK, so you agree with the below, which is very smart of you.

Did the Democratic-Republican Party of Jeffersons morph into the Democratic Party? Does the party celebrate Jefferson?

Did the Federalists lead to the Whigs which led to the Republicans? Does the party celebrate Lincoln?

BOTH parties came from the Democratic/Republican Party:

Democratic Party - Profile of the Democratic Party

most importantly Jefferson Founded the Republican Party in 1792 to stand for freedom from government. Modern Republicans are identical in name and philosophy. Liberals were not present at the founding and so really don't belong in America.

No, Jefferson founded the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN Party to counter the Federalists.............

The two original national parties were the Federalist Party and the Democratic-Republican Party. In 1816, the Federalist Party died out leaving a single political party for a short time. However, a split in the Democratic-Republican Party in the mid-1820s gave rise two factions: the National Republicans and the Democrats. When Andrew Jackson lost in 1824, Jackson's supporters created their own organization to get him elected. After his election in 1828, that organization became known as the Democratic Party.
 
edward, you are not a conservative, merely a far right wing nut, so your characterization of me as a "liberal" (if that meant anything in the first place in this discussion) is silly.

OK, so you agree with the below, which is very smart of you.

Did the Democratic-Republican Party of Jeffersons morph into the Democratic Party? Does the party celebrate Jefferson?

Did the Federalists lead to the Whigs which led to the Republicans? Does the party celebrate Lincoln?

BOTH parties came from the Democratic/Republican Party:

Democratic Party - Profile of the Democratic Party

most importantly Jefferson Founded the Republican Party in 1792 to stand for freedom from government. Modern Republicans are identical in name and philosophy. Liberals were not present at the founding and so really don't belong in America.

I suspect that modern Republicans don't associate their values with archaic slave-holders such as Jefferson, Mason, Madison, Monroe and their ilk from the Old South.

Jefferson belongs to the Democratic Party. That will never change.
 
BOTH parties came from the Democratic/Republican Party:

Democratic Party - Profile of the Democratic Party

most importantly Jefferson Founded the Republican Party in 1792 to stand for freedom from government. Modern Republicans are identical in name and philosophy. Liberals were not present at the founding and so really don't belong in America.

No, Jefferson founded the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN Party to counter the Federalists.............

The two original national parties were the Federalist Party and the Democratic-Republican Party. In 1816, the Federalist Party died out leaving a single political party for a short time. However, a split in the Democratic-Republican Party in the mid-1820s gave rise two factions: the National Republicans and the Democrats. When Andrew Jackson lost in 1824, Jackson's supporters created their own organization to get him elected. After his election in 1828, that organization became known as the Democratic Party.

Peach, edward does not want to get it. Accept that now. He is attempting to revise history to fit an ideology that will exclude women, immigrants, and peoples of color from the American dream.
 
The two original national parties were the Federalist Party and the Democratic-Republican Party. In 1816, the Federalist Party died out leaving a single political party for a short time. However, a split in the Democratic-Republican Party in the mid-1820s gave rise two factions: the National Republicans and the Democrats. When Andrew Jackson lost in 1824, Jackson's supporters created their own organization to get him elected. After his election in 1828, that organization became known as the Democratic Party.
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The two original national parties were the Federalist Party and the Democratic-Republican Party. In 1816, the Federalist Party died out leaving a single political party for a short time. However, a split in the Democratic-Republican Party in the mid-1820s gave rise two factions: the National Republicans and the Democrats. When Andrew Jackson lost in 1824, Jackson's supporters created their own organization to get him elected. After his election in 1828, that organization became known as the Democratic Party.
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I can't pos rep you because I am out at the moment. I will catch you up. Exactly so.
 
No, Jefferson founded the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN Party to counter the Federalists..........

if you have a primary source to corroborate this I will pay you $10,000. Bet


5th Congress (1797-1799)
Majority Party: Federalist (22 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (10 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 32

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6th Congress (1799-1801)

Majority Party: Federalist (22 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (10 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 32

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7th Congress (1801-1803)

Majority Party: Republican (17 seats)

Minority Party: Federalist (15 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Vacant: 2

Total Seats: 34

"Historians do not agree on the details surrounding the origin of Parties. Some believe that Jefferson forged the Republican party from coalition of existing state and local parties"....[in the 1790's].

Page 31, Political Parties in America by Robert Huckshorn( most popular Political Science text on parties in USA.


"Although people were still deeply ambivalent about political parties, although one party did not necessarily recognize the legitimacy of the other, and although men on both sides were nostalgic- at one time or another- for the imaginary golden age of political harmony, few people could be found in the early 1790's who believed the parties did not exist. The parties had names: Federalist and Republican."

- Susan Dunn, Jefferson's Second Revolution.


"In referring to political parties I have adopted the names which the respective parties used in self-designation. Thus the Jeffersonian party has been referred to throughout as the Republican Party. This name came into use early in the 1790's among persons who considered themselves of a common political "interest", and the term "Republican interest" was generally used until it was replaced by the more definite "Republican Party".

The Jeffersonian Republicans( the formation of Party organization (1789-1801) by Noble E. Cunningham,Jr.


-During a conciliatory moment at his Inauguration Jefferson said: "today we are all Republicans, we are all Federalists." (referring to the two majors parties at the time)
We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists. If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union, or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.
- When Jefferson won the election of 1800 the National Gazette headline was, "Complete triumph of Republican firmness over the "obstinacy" of the Aristocrats"! ( what Republicans called big government Federalists)

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No, Jefferson founded the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN Party to counter the Federalists..........

if you have a primary source to corroborate this I will pay you $10,000. Bet


5th Congress (1797-1799)
Majority Party: Federalist (22 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (10 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 32

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

6th Congress (1799-1801)

Majority Party: Federalist (22 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (10 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 32

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

7th Congress (1801-1803)

Majority Party: Republican (17 seats)

Minority Party: Federalist (15 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Vacant: 2

Total Seats: 34

"Historians do not agree on the details surrounding the origin of Parties. Some believe that Jefferson forged the Republican party from coalition of existing state and local parties"....[in the 1790's].

Page 31, Political Parties in America by Robert Huckshorn( most popular Political Science text on parties in USA.


"Although people were still deeply ambivalent about political parties, although one party did not necessarily recognize the legitimacy of the other, and although men on both sides were nostalgic- at one time or another- for the imaginary golden age of political harmony, few people could be found in the early 1790's who believed the parties did not exist. The parties had names: Federalist and Republican."

- Susan Dunn, Jefferson's Second Revolution.


"In referring to political parties I have adopted the names which the respective parties used in self-designation. Thus the Jeffersonian party has been referred to throughout as the Republican Party. This name came into use early in the 1790's among persons who considered themselves of a common political "interest", and the term "Republican interest" was generally used until it was replaced by the more definite "Republican Party".

The Jeffersonian Republicans( the formation of Party organization (1789-1801) by Noble E. Cunningham,Jr.


-During a conciliatory moment at his Inauguration Jefferson said: "today we are all Republicans, we are all Federalists." (referring to the two majors parties at the time)
We have called by different names brethren of the same principle. We are all Republicans, we are all Federalists. If there be any among us who would wish to dissolve this Union, or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it.
- When Jefferson won the election of 1800 the National Gazette headline was, "Complete triumph of Republican firmness over the "obstinacy" of the Aristocrats"! ( what Republicans called big government Federalists)

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I do not gamble. And Jefferson found the Democratic Republican Party.

Thomas Jefferson
 
On the foundation of the Republican Party:

Founded in northern states in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, modernizers, ex-Whigs and ex-Free Soilers, the Republican Party quickly became the principal opposition to the dominant Democratic Party and the briefly popular Know Nothing Party. The main cause was opposition to the Kansas–Nebraska Act, which repealed the Missouri Compromise by which slavery was kept out of Kansas. The Republicans saw the expansion of slavery as a great evil. The first public meeting where the name "Republican" was suggested for a new anti-slavery party was held on March 20, 1854 in a schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin.[5]
 
I do not gamble. And Jefferson found the Democratic Republican Party.

if true its not gambling. Why are you so afraid to present a primary source to support your point. Perhaps you can't? That must tell you something about your point?
 
MAYBE this will clear it up:

Democratic-Republican

Four presidents were members of the United States Democratic-Republican Party:
Presidents who served two full terms are bolded.
Thomas Jefferson (1801–1809)
James Madison (1809–1817)
James Monroe (1817–1825)
John Quincy Adams (1825–1829)
Democratic-Republican presidents have governed for 28 years in total. The Democratic-Republican Party is the ancestor of the current Democratic Party.
 
The best source, I doubt it available ONLINE:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Republic-History-American/dp/0669329703/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1335134840&sr=1-3]Amazon.com: The Great Republic: A History of the American People: 1820 to 1920 (9780669329704): Bernard Bailyn, Robert Dallek, David Davis, David Donald, John Thomas: Books[/ame]
 
"ed" does not want to, like a recalcitrant stubborn little pupil in the second grade, get with it.
 

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