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Just how is voting for a person that has no chance in hell going to make this country better?
You see Romney and Obama as equals....I don't, I see Obama far worse. If Obama wins the election and the supreme court doesn't overturn obamacare, we're going to be screwed. A republican president can help in peeling back the layers to this. I could go on with most of Obama's policies, but I think you get what I'm saying.
A Republican president would also need a compliant legislative branch to peel back obamacare. And if the Supreme Court decides that the mandate is constitutional then we're fucked no matter what happens to obamacare. Not only that, but I don't trust Republicans when it comes unnecessary and possibly unconstitutional legislation (Patriot Act).
I'm making the country better by being someone who doesn't play this bullshit "us verses them" game like Republicans and Democrats do. I actually care about morals, ethics, voting records, and whether the candidate has been bought off or not. All that most retard voters do is try to "beat the other guy, damn the country we need to beat the other guy".
That's as silly as hanging Toquemada around Kennedy's neck.
The Catholic Church has renounced Torquemada a long time ago. The Mormons still respect Joseph Smith.
Derision by proxy is a silly game. You have a valid point about the political gamesmanship of nominating a Mormon, but your near hatefest for the religion and transference of that animosity to individuals is just plain wrong.
But as you said, you'd vote Obama over Romney and that really just says it all.
So they lose a few religious bigots. Big deal. Romney can bring in far more independents.
Ahhh, those mythical independents... if that doesn't work, Romney can work on that Unicorn vote.
Independents don't win elections, enthusiasm does. Independents usually go with the flow.
This is what always amuses me about Romney's supporters. "We're not the least bit enthusiastic about him, but we think you'll be!"
Reality check, the guy who has the most enthusiastic supporters is the guy who wins. Obama's supporters are going to be enthusiastic. No doubt about that. Romney's supporters? Meh, not so much. He's safe. He's the guy your parents fixed you up with.
The guy who has the most enthusiastic supporters is not always the guy who wins. Think Ron Paul and Ross Perot. Clinton won with 43% of the vote in 1992.
so do jews, catholics, muslims, hindus, shintoists and just about every other religious following that involves humans.mormons have an ugly history. apparently mormonism is based on a jewish settlement that supposedly once existed somewhere in what is now new york. However, absolutely no evidence has ever been found or produced to prove it once existed. Interesting...
Ahhh, those mythical independents... if that doesn't work, Romney can work on that Unicorn vote.
Independents don't win elections, enthusiasm does. Independents usually go with the flow.
This is what always amuses me about Romney's supporters. "We're not the least bit enthusiastic about him, but we think you'll be!"
Reality check, the guy who has the most enthusiastic supporters is the guy who wins. Obama's supporters are going to be enthusiastic. No doubt about that. Romney's supporters? Meh, not so much. He's safe. He's the guy your parents fixed you up with.
The guy who has the most enthusiastic supporters is not always the guy who wins. Think Ron Paul and Ross Perot. Clinton won with 43% of the vote in 1992.
Perot's supporters weren't that enthusiastic about him by the end. Perot reflected a major disgust with both parties, which is why I think a third party would resonate now. That would be, if we didn't have the stupidity of the electoral college and throwing disputed elections into the Congress.
Your two choices are Barack Hussein Obama and Mitt Romney for the presidency 2012. This is a poll of USMB members.
I put the choice of third party too...So we will see who wins!
Your two choices are Barack Hussein Obama and Mitt Romney for the presidency 2012. This is a poll of USMB members.
I put the choice of third party too...So we will see who wins!
mass murders and the like.... they always name them with 3 names.
Second point. Hate to say it, Warren Jeffs practices Mormonism a lot closer to what Joseph Smith (dum-dum-dum-dum-dum) and Brigham Young did. There is a lot of really, really ugly history and crazy beliefs there, and the Mainstream Media will be happy to educate us once Romney is the nominee.
If by educate, you mean lie like you are then yes, sadly you are right.
Bud, please point out what I've gotten materially wrong. Not that you don't like the way I phrase it, or mock it, but what I've said that is just not true.
Mormon history contains-
Blood atonement
Kirtland Bank Fraud
Danites
Utah War
Polygamy
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Lots of whacky stuff about Native Americans being Hebrews who were cursed by God with dark skin.
Mormonism is Scientology plus 150 years.
Why do you think the Media is treating Romney with kid gloves, while looking under Rocks (literally) in Perry's past? They want Romney. They want to set this guy up and get him in the media kill zone.
The Catholic Church has renounced Torquemada a long time ago. The Mormons still respect Joseph Smith.
Derision by proxy is a silly game. You have a valid point about the political gamesmanship of nominating a Mormon, but your near hatefest for the religion and transference of that animosity to individuals is just plain wrong.
But as you said, you'd vote Obama over Romney and that really just says it all.
If I choose to despise a religion, it's for a pretty good reason. Mormonism was started by a con artist who wanted to have sex with teenage girls and other men's wives. It has spent most of its history trying to carve out a little bit of power.
Either Romney believes in this batshit crazy nonsense, or he plays along with it to further himself politically. Either scenario disqualifies him from the Presidency.
mass murders and the like.... they always name them with 3 names.
See my post above.
Based on this thread poll, does anyone honestly believe Obama only has 22% of the electorate? I think not...
Derision by proxy is a silly game. You have a valid point about the political gamesmanship of nominating a Mormon, but your near hatefest for the religion and transference of that animosity to individuals is just plain wrong.
But as you said, you'd vote Obama over Romney and that really just says it all.
If I choose to despise a religion, it's for a pretty good reason. Mormonism was started by a con artist who wanted to have sex with teenage girls and other men's wives. It has spent most of its history trying to carve out a little bit of power.
Either Romney believes in this batshit crazy nonsense, or he plays along with it to further himself politically. Either scenario disqualifies him from the Presidency.
You don't know any actual mormons do you? You should meet some. Generally mormons are very nice people and quite tolerant. Other groups (evangelical, southern baptist, catholic in some areas) could stand to learn a few things.