If ISIS defines Islam, then Jim Jones and Giuliani define christianity

[TooTall]

Christians become Christians by accepting Jesus Christ and he was not mentioned in the Old Testament dumbass! Many of our present day laws are based on the Ten Commandments in case you missed that as well.

This is a widespread myth. Let's compare the Ten Commandments with US law:

1. “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."
Freedom of religion is a constitutionally protected right. You can worship another god or group of gods alongside Yhwh or even another god or group of gods alone.

2. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments."
As above, you have a constitutional right to create an idol or icon of anything. It can be in the likeness of anything in the sky, underground, or in an underground river. You can bow down to them and pray to them if you want. Nobody can legally stop you from doing these things.

3. “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
There are no laws against any interpretation of this commandment. Say Yahweh or Yahuwah or Yahuwahu or however it's supposed to be said as much as you want. Say it in any context you want. You can't be prosecuted or stoned for saying a name.

4. “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it."
There are no legal restrictions in the US on working on any given day. Nobody is going to stone you to death for picking up sticks on the ancient Hebrew Sabbath.

5. “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you."
There are also no laws against failing to respect your parents.

6. “You shall not murder."
This is the first similarity between the Ten Commandments and US law. You can't murder people here either. It's a pretty common law in every civilized society for what should be obvious reasons.

7. “You shall not commit adultery."
Adultery is not a crime in the US outside of the military as far as I'm aware.

8. “You shall not steal."
Theft is also a crime in the US. That makes two of eight.

9. “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
And perjury is illegal here too.

10. “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
Envy is not only legal but the basis of our capitalist economic system.

So... Yeah... 3/10 Commandments, and all of them are common shit illegal basically everywhere.

Do you think ISIS subscribes to the three commandments that are common everywhere else? I understand that you are an atheist dickweed, so there is no reason for me to further entertain you.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

* * * the inquisition defines chrisitanity * * * *

The tragically stupid OP "argues" that there is some kind of equivalence :: If ISIS defines "Islam," then the inquisition etc defines Christianity.

What a dipshit. Jesus defined Christianity. Mohammud defined Islam. Jesus taught "turn the other cheek." Mohammud claimed that Allah taught good Muzzies to lob off the heads and fingertips of the infidels. One of the "pillars" of the "faith" of Islam is "jihad."

No such "teaching" ever sprang from the lips of Jesus.

 

[paulitician]

There a major differences between Christianity and Islam. The behavior and teachings of Jesus and Muhammad are quite different. But i don't have time to educate Communist/Progressive tardwits who have a weird obsession with hating Christians.

I'll just add that Jesus and Muhammad lived very different lives and stood for very different things. They were two very different people. I'll let others figure out for themselves what those big differences were.

 

[Dana7360]

And the inquisition defines chrisitanity, along with David Koresh and the rest of the right wing nut jobs in congress. Lindsey Graham and John McCain both claim to be christian, and they're two of the biggest war mongers in the Senate. Does this country really believe that's what Jesus is all about?

Giuliani has taken the GOP to a new low. If the extremist (so called) christians in this country could get away with it,they'd kill liberal Americans the way ISIS kills other Muslims.

I would add fred phelps and his westboro baptist church to that. They certainly define and represent many people on this board and so many more in right wing media and politics.

 

[FJO]

Obama has taken the US to war and continues war.

Obama has killed Americans without due process.

Obama supports abortion.

Obama has a drone program that kills innocent people almost everyday.

So using your criteria what Giuliani said about Obama not being Christian makes sense.

What doesn't make sens is YOU. Jones was the ultimate in liberal, he is the obvious climax of liberal thought. He USED Christianity like all tyrants use Christianity. Much like the democrat slave holders tried to use it to sooth their tortured souls.

But to make a comparison to ISIS is really, really idiotic. Jones beheaded no one and Giuliani has not either.

So you're saying that beheading 35 is different that poisoning 900. That's a hell of an "idiotic" way to defend Jim Jones.

Those who drank the Kool-Aid drank it on their own accord, freely, willingly and knowing that they could walk away from it.
Those whose heads were chopped off by the Muslim thugs had no such choice.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

Muhammad just owned and took slaves because it was part of his Bedouin culture. To hold that against him is a little racist, isn't it? Muhammad led wars against the pagans and converted the survivors at swordpoint because he really believed in his religion. You can't fault him for that. All that was a long time ago anyway and has nothing to do with real Islam as practiced by the agnostic, apathetic majority who've never read the Qur'an for themselves. They're the ones we need to go to if we want to understand what Muhammad really taught and what Islam is truly all about. Paul invented the slave trade when he told Philemon to go back to his master because that's what Jesus would have wanted. Jesus supported slavery because he hated black people just like his so-called worshippers in the South and Congress do today. The Crusades and Inquisition are all you need to know about if you want to understand Christianity. You don't even need to read the Bible. Just look at what kinds of atrocities Stalin committed as a believing Christian.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

I would add fred phelps and his westboro baptist church to that. They certainly define and represent many people on this board and so many more in right wing media and politics.

Fred Phelps was an early civil rights lawyer and a hero to blacks until becoming an enemy to gays. Sometimes I wonder if he didn't just want to stay in the news and make some more of that sweet lawsuit money.

 

[Dana7360]

How telling is it that these RWnuts insist that terrorism committed by Muslims must be a reflection of Islam as a whole,

but they totally reject ANY wrongdoing of ANY Christian for ANY reason as being a reflection of Christianity as a whole.

Yes and I would add scott roeder, eric rudolph and james kopp to that list. All of them are murderers and all of them claim to be christians.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

How telling is it that these RWnuts insist that terrorism committed by Muslims must be a reflection of Islam as a whole,

but they totally reject ANY wrongdoing of ANY Christian for ANY reason as being a reflection of Christianity as a whole.

Call me when Christians are carrying on like the Muslims... even remotely.

The Muslims have been behaving like savages from day one...

 

[FJO]

Muhammad just owned and took slaves because it was part of his Bedouin culture. To hold that against him is a little racist, isn't it? Muhammad led wars against the pagans and converted the survivors at swordpoint because he really believed in his religion. You can't fault him for that. All that was a long time ago anyway and has nothing to do with real Islam as practiced by the agnostic, apathetic majority who've never read the Qur'an for themselves. They're the ones we need to go to if we want to understand what Muhammad really taught and what Islam is truly all about. Paul invented the slave trade when he told Philemon to go back to his master because that's what Jesus would have wanted. Jesus supported slavery because he hated black people just like his so-called worshippers in the South and Congress do today. The Crusades and Inquisition are all you need to know about if you want to understand Christianity. You don't even need to read the Bible. Just look at what kinds of atrocities Stalin committed as a believing Christian.

STALIN AS A BELIEVING CHRISTIAN????????

Are you insane?

 

[2aguy]

jim jones was not a christian....he was a marxist communist........you guys really need to stop listening to your lefty nut propaganda.....

Jim Jones - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Jones moved away from the Communist Party when CPUSA members became critical of some of the policies of former Soviet leader Joseph Stalin.[16]

He was a stalinist and a soviet supporter.......

And he supported the nut job in North Korea.......

Jones had long been critical of the United States' opposition to communist leader Kim Il-Sung's 1950 invasion of South Korea, calling it the "war of liberation" and stating that "the south is a living example of all that socialism in the north has overcome."

While Jones always spoke of the social gospel's virtues, before the late 1960s Jones chose to conceal that his gospel was actually communism.[14]


By the late 1960s, Jones began at least partially openly revealing the details of his "Apostolic Socialism" concept in Temple sermons.[14] Jones also taught that, "those who remained drugged with the opiate of religion had to be brought to enlightenment — socialism."[38] Jones often mixed these ideas, such as preaching that, "If you're born in capitalist America, racist America, fascist America, then you're born in sin. But if you're born in socialism, you're not born in sin."[39]


By the early 1970s, Jones began deriding traditional Christianity as "fly away religion," rejecting the Bible as being a tool to oppress women and non-whites, and denouncing a "Sky God" who was no God at all.[14] Jones wrote a booklet titled "The Letter Killeth," criticizing the King James Bible.[40] Jones also began preaching that he was the reincarnation of Mahatma Gandhi (murdered in 1948) and Father Divine (died in 1965), as well as Jesus of Nazareth, Gautama Buddha and Vladimir Lenin. Former Temple member Hue Fortson, Jr. quoted Jones as saying, "What you need to believe in is what you can see ... If you see me as your friend, I'll be your friend. As you see me as your father, I'll be your father, for those of you that don't have a father ... If you see me as your savior, I'll be your savior. If you see me as your God, I'll be your God."[9]

 

[BlindBoo]

Those who drank the Kool-Aid drank it on their own accord, freely, willingly and knowing that they could walk away from it.

Those that didn't drink were shot.

 

[paulitician]

Jesus and Muhammad behaved and preached very differently. Islam is not a 'Religion of Peace.' It never was. Muhammad was a violent warrior who believed in conquest. Jesus represented the exact opposite.

So as usual, the Communist/Progressive wankas got it wrong. And that's because they're lazy, hateful, and ignorant. They continue on with their irrational hatred of Christians. "They know not what they do."

 

[chikenwing]

And the inquisition defines chrisitanity, along with David Koresh and the rest of the right wing nut jobs in congress. Lindsey Graham and John McCain both claim to be christian, and they're two of the biggest war mongers in the Senate. Does this country really believe that's what Jesus is all about?

Giuliani has taken the GOP to a new low. If the extremist (so called) christians in this country could get away with it,they'd kill liberal Americans the way ISIS kills other Muslims.

WTF ?? are you brain dead?

 

[paulitician]

I suggest Communist/Progressive wankas read up a bit more on the behaviors and teachings of Jesus and Muhammad. Maybe then they'll reconsider their irrational hatred of Christianity.

 

[hazlnut]

Okay. What's the 2015 body count?

It's a slow year.

And most Christian extremists have enough material comforts in the U.S. to keep them in check. Take away their NASCAR, wide screens and internet, they'd be blowing shit up left and right.

 

[paulitician]

Okay. What's the 2015 body count?

It's a slow year.

And most Christian extremists have enough material comforts in the U.S. to keep them in check. Take away their NASCAR, wide screens and internet, they'd be blowing shit up left and right.

When's the last time a Christian threatened to cut your head off in the name of Jesus and Christianity?

Time for you to think up another stupid meaningless reply. Don't hurt yourself.
Our expectations are pretty low with you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And the inquisition defines chrisitanity, along with David Koresh and the rest of the right wing nut jobs in congress. Lindsey Graham and John McCain both claim to be christian, and they're two of the biggest war mongers in the Senate. Does this country really believe that's what Jesus is all about?

Giuliani has taken the GOP to a new low. If the extremist (so called) christians in this country could get away with it,they'd kill liberal Americans the way ISIS kills other Muslims.

That's clever. I mean for someone who's a fucking moron.

You and all your sock accounts need to get back to your day job mopping up the glory hole

 

[hangover]

How telling is it that these RWnuts insist that terrorism committed by Muslims must be a reflection of Islam as a whole,

but they totally reject ANY wrongdoing of ANY Christian for ANY reason as being a reflection of Christianity as a whole.

Call me when Christians are carrying on like the Muslims... even remotely.

The Muslims have been behaving like savages from day one...

It was the Catholic church that was burning people alive and beheading them during the inquisition. They taught ISIS how do do hat they're doing now. Those "so called" christians did that for a thousand years.

 

[paulitician]

And the inquisition defines chrisitanity, along with David Koresh and the rest of the right wing nut jobs in congress. Lindsey Graham and John McCain both claim to be christian, and they're two of the biggest war mongers in the Senate. Does this country really believe that's what Jesus is all about?

Giuliani has taken the GOP to a new low. If the extremist (so called) christians in this country could get away with it,they'd kill liberal Americans the way ISIS kills other Muslims.

That's clever. I mean for someone who's a fucking moron.

You and all your sock accounts need to get back to your day job mopping up the glory hole

Still waiting for the wingnuts to tell us the last time a Christian threatened to cut their heads off in the name of Jesus and Christianity. But i won't wait much longer. Communist/Progressive wingnuts aren't exactly brainiacs.