Your Version of a Perfect Political Climate or Society?!

[DriftingSand]

We all seem to know what would be best for the USA (and the world) but no two people agree on what the word "best" means.

Please describe what your vision of a perfect society or civilization or utopia looks like. Who runs the show and what are their credentials? If your version of a "perfect society" isn't based on freedom and liberty then please explain why your model is superior to America's original Constitutional Republic.

How would we reach your goals? Force? Wishful thinking? Coercion? Bribery? Brainwashing? Other?

Are your goals realistic? Can mankind in it's current immoral (and often amoral) condition even come close to realizing your dream?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

 

[DriftingSand]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Sieg heil

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man it would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things done but not so long as to be corrupted.

 

[DriftingSand]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man if would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things down but not so long as to be corrupted.

Unfortunately, all men are already corrupted so any man or group of men have already failed to live up to your expectations.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man it would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things done but not so long as to be corrupted.

He/council would be corrupt from the beginning. Dictators have been knocked back repeatedly through the annals of history. Of course that doesn't apply to the ME. They love dictators and the putrid ooze that emanates from such despots.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man if would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things down but not so long as to be corrupted.

Unfortunately, all men are already corrupted so any man or group of men have already failed to live up to your expectations.

Humans are a disease, but that is another thread. You have to deal with what you have eh? Utopias fail because humans are generally nothing more than selfish short-sided assholes. You need someone running the show who can see the forest for the tress, and very few humans can.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man it would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things done but not so long as to be corrupted.

He/council would be corrupt from the beginning. Dictators have been knocked back repeatedly through the annals of history. Of course that doesn't apply to the ME. They love dictators and the putrid ooze that emanates from such despots.

Never heard of Rome eh? I didn't think so.

 

[Mac1958]

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"Benevolent Dictatorship"

Today's oxymoron of the day, no charge.

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[DriftingSand]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man if would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things down but not so long as to be corrupted.

Unfortunately, all men are already corrupted so any man or group of men have already failed to live up to your expectations.

Humans are a disease, but that is another thread. You have to deal with what you have eh? Utopias fail because humans are generally nothing more than selfish short-sided assholes. You need someone running the show who can see the forest for the tress, and very few humans can.

I happen to agree. That's why the law of the land needs to be a document like the Constitution rather than a human who's moods and opinions sway like reeds in the wind.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man it would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things done but not so long as to be corrupted.

He/council would be corrupt from the beginning. Dictators have been knocked back repeatedly through the annals of history. Of course that doesn't apply to the ME. They love dictators and the putrid ooze that emanates from such despots.

Never heard of Rome eh? I didn't think so.

Yes, it burned from corruption.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man if would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things down but not so long as to be corrupted.

Unfortunately, all men are already corrupted so any man or group of men have already failed to live up to your expectations.

Humans are a disease, but that is another thread. You have to deal with what you have eh? Utopias fail because humans are generally nothing more than selfish short-sided assholes. You need someone running the show who can see the forest for the tress, and very few humans can.

Lol, you do have a deranged outlook. I'll give you that.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man it would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things done but not so long as to be corrupted.

He/council would be corrupt from the beginning. Dictators have been knocked back repeatedly through the annals of history. Of course that doesn't apply to the ME. They love dictators and the putrid ooze that emanates from such despots.

Never heard of Rome eh? I didn't think so.

Yes, it burned from corruption.

All human things eventually fail but it lasted how long? Oh right, 500 years. That's a good damn run and nothing to sneeze at.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Why would the goals need to be realistic on a thread that starts with a Utopia?

And the best way to govern society, a Benevolent Dictatorship.

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man if would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things down but not so long as to be corrupted.

Unfortunately, all men are already corrupted so any man or group of men have already failed to live up to your expectations.

Humans are a disease, but that is another thread. You have to deal with what you have eh? Utopias fail because humans are generally nothing more than selfish short-sided assholes. You need someone running the show who can see the forest for the tress, and very few humans can.

Lol, you do have a deranged outlook. I'll give you that.

Nothing deranged about it. You're just human so you don't like it.

 

[DriftingSand]

Who's your "benevolent dictator?" What makes him benevolent and why is he qualified to dictate?

Morals would make him benevolent, and I would probably use a council not a man, but if it was a man it would be only for a decade. Long enough to get things done but not so long as to be corrupted.

He/council would be corrupt from the beginning. Dictators have been knocked back repeatedly through the annals of history. Of course that doesn't apply to the ME. They love dictators and the putrid ooze that emanates from such despots.

Never heard of Rome eh? I didn't think so.

Yes, it burned from corruption.

All human things eventually fail but it lasted how long? Oh right, 500 years. That's a good damn run and nothing to sneeze at.

But rarely (if ever) was Rome a "benevolent dictatorship."

 

[Mac1958]

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Actually, I've seen quite a few lefties over the years who will admit to preferring something like a "benevolent dictatorship".

In their heart of hearts, they would be quite satisfied to be dictated to, to be satisfied with what the dictator provides, living a simple, subservient, low-key life in which we all work for a greater collective and want for little, all at the cost of certain freedoms and the ability to improve their own lives.

I guess I can see some attraction there, in some ways. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, this notion truly is a utopia, a simplistic pipe dream, it can't happen. But these people are still willing to work towards it, trying to concentrate power in a central authority the best they can.

I suspect there are many more who won't articulate this desire, but still harbor it.

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[DriftingSand]

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Actually, I've seen quite a few lefties over the years who will admit to preferring something like a "benevolent dictatorship".

In their heart of hearts, they would be quite satisfied to be dictated to, to be satisfied with what the dictator provides, living a simple, subservient, low-key life in which we all work for a greater collective and want for little, all at the cost of certain freedoms and the ability to improve their own lives.

I guess I can see some attraction there, in some ways. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, this notion truly is a utopia, a simplistic pipe dream, it can't happen. But these people are still willing to work towards it, trying to concentrate power in a central authority the best they can.

I suspect there are many more who won't articulate this desire, but still harbor it.

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Their "visions" truly are fantasies of their own, limited design based on nothing but wishful thinking. They believe that voting for a Socialist Democrat will solve the world's (and their personal) problems.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

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Actually, I've seen quite a few lefties over the years who will admit to preferring something like a "benevolent dictatorship".

In their heart of hearts, they would be quite satisfied to be dictated to, to be satisfied with what the dictator provides, living a simple, subservient, low-key life in which we all work for a greater collective and want for little, all at the cost of certain freedoms and the ability to improve their own lives.

I guess I can see some attraction there, in some ways. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, this notion truly is a utopia, a simplistic pipe dream, it can't happen. But these people are still willing to work towards it, trying to concentrate power in a central authority the best they can.

I suspect there are many more who won't articulate this desire, but still harbor it.

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They're happy to be led around by the nose. Essentially, in bondage. Thats what they yearn for. It sure isn't freedom.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

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Actually, I've seen quite a few lefties over the years who will admit to preferring something like a "benevolent dictatorship".

In their heart of hearts, they would be quite satisfied to be dictated to, to be satisfied with what the dictator provides, living a simple, subservient, low-key life in which we all work for a greater collective and want for little, all at the cost of certain freedoms and the ability to improve their own lives.

I guess I can see some attraction there, in some ways. Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, this notion truly is a utopia, a simplistic pipe dream, it can't happen. But these people are still willing to work towards it, trying to concentrate power in a central authority the best they can.

I suspect there are many more who won't articulate this desire, but still harbor it.

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Their "visions" truly are fantasies of their own, limited design based on nothing but wishful thinking. They believe that voting for a Socialist Democrat will solve the world's (and their personal) problems.

There's a lot of wishful thinking in the Constitution. Don't knock it.