The shorter list would be who did not pass us up?
"If I wanted America to fail"
- Thread starter Stephanie
- Start date
The shorter list would be who did not pass us up?
Big Oil has a tall order.
They have to convince America that petroleum is the future, and it's abundant.
Otherwise America will slowly divest in their honey pot and move resources to conservation and alternative sources - both of which would hurt their bottom line.
Their first challenge was in 1956 when Hubbert predicted Peak Oil. They spent millions to silence the theory.
Their second challenge was when Carter tried to warn the nation about dependency on middle eastern terror states. He wanted to slowly move toward conservation and alternative sources, both of which would have helped us to avoid the current energy crisis and the $4 gallon.
Big Oil answered the second challenge by funding Reagan's ascendancy and destroying Carter, particularly his notion of energy independence which they called a "Chicken Little" response.
Big oil has won. It's too late now to make a smooth transition to a post-petroleum world. Their propaganda about oil abundance seemed odd even in the 70s - given the predictions made about the growth of China and India. When they killed the first electric car movement, it was a tragedy. The game ended when they bought Reagan. That was when we passed the point of no return.
They have to convince America that petroleum is the future, and it's abundant.
Otherwise America will slowly divest in their honey pot and move resources to conservation and alternative sources - both of which would hurt their bottom line.
Their first challenge was in 1956 when Hubbert predicted Peak Oil. They spent millions to silence the theory.
Their second challenge was when Carter tried to warn the nation about dependency on middle eastern terror states. He wanted to slowly move toward conservation and alternative sources, both of which would have helped us to avoid the current energy crisis and the $4 gallon.
Big Oil answered the second challenge by funding Reagan's ascendancy and destroying Carter, particularly his notion of energy independence which they called a "Chicken Little" response.
Big oil has won. It's too late now to make a smooth transition to a post-petroleum world. Their propaganda about oil abundance seemed odd even in the 70s - given the predictions made about the growth of China and India. When they killed the first electric car movement, it was a tragedy. The game ended when they bought Reagan. That was when we passed the point of no return.
Last edited:
I'm not happy about Gitmo, but we learned real quick that he needs the Congress to back him up on that one, and there just isn't any appetite to bring those detainees onto U.S. soil. I blame us for Gitmo being open because the minute the idea got floated around and he signed off on closing it within a year, the Congress heard an earful from their constituents that there would be no way in hell that we would move those people here.
On his second big bailout, he initially wanted to spend about a trillion almost entirely on job creation, research and development, infrastructure, job re-training and other education programs. In the end he ended up spending almost $800 billion, almost half of which was the single largest middle class tax cut in American history.
I think that the stimulus might have been used better on direct job creation rather than all those tax cuts, but the guy needed Republican votes and many conservative Democrat votes in the Senate at the time.
It put us in the fragile recovery we're in. He's mostly been a tax-cutting President who has paid for some things by closing loopholes for folks at the higher end on things like his health care law.
I'm mixed about Obamacare.
It's on foreign policy that I think he gets the most credit from me, which is strange, since I thought that would be the area he'd have weakness in. He didn't end Iraq fast enough for me, but now that it's over, I have to tip my cap to him for getting it done in an orderly fashion.
Anybody can start a war, but it does require some good managing skills to get yourself out of one and he and Bush finally did the right thing by setting the deadlines they did and then adhering to them.
The Infidel
EVIL CONSERVATIVE
Old Rocks
Diamond Member
newpolitics
vegan atheist indy
- Sep 27, 2008
- 2,931
- 262
- 48
what, you want to jerk me off now? Isn't that a sin? Go read your holy book, repent, and feel okay about destroying this earth some more in the name of free-market capitalism. the bible is joke. we do not have dominion over anything. we are going to kill ourselves, but none of you christians even care because you're going to heaven anyway, or so you think. You're actually not, because there is no heaven, and there is no hell. we have this one life. this one earth, and we are destroying it because we think it was made for us and therefore can not be destroyed. its ridiculous. all of this, based on a book, for which none of the supernatural claims can be demonstrated or proven, and yet you attack science? It's laughable. Science has evidence, religion has faith. Faith is nothing belief in something without evidence because it feels good. This does not demonstrate it to be true. The irony in this, is that religious thought, designed to save the believer, is going to destroy humanity with its hubris.
Last edited:
The Infidel
EVIL CONSERVATIVE
what, you want to jerk me off now? Isn't that a sin? Go read your holy book, repent, and feel okay about destroying this earth some more in the name of free-market capitalism. the bible is joke. we do not have dominion over anything. we are going to kill ourselves, but none of you christians even care because you're going to heaven anyway, or so you think. You're actually not, because there is no heaven, and there is no hell. we have this one life. this one earth, and we are destroying it because we think it was made for us and therefore can not be destroyed. its ridiculous. all of this, based on a book, for which none of the supernatural claims can be demonstrated or proven.
Shut the **** up ya douche... go hug a tree or something.
Better yet, gargle gasoline and smoke a cigarette.
Vidi
CDZ prohibited
Vidi
CDZ prohibited
I hear you on this one too.
I didn't like Bush from the campaign on, I supported McCain in 2000...Gore has the personality on a biege brick in my opinion, but once 9/11 happened, I was ready for Bush to lead. I supported invading Aphganistan, because that's where "they" attacked us from. I did not support the invasion of Iraq once the CIE report tat He said told us we needed to became public and it was obvious he lied through his teeth.
After that, to be honest, I never trusted the man to tell the truth on anything after that.
freedombecki
Let's go swimmin'!
No, it will just set us back a hundred years is all.
freedombecki
Let's go swimmin'!
Well, after he was elected and 9/11 struck, he and the Congress made sure America would not fail by jointly bringing a Homeland Security into being to assure communications between the information-gathering units of the nation, and they consolidated to being a force to reckon with by terrorists.
He did what needed to be done.
Lovebears65
Gold Member
healthmyths
Diamond Member
- Sep 19, 2011
- 30,375
- 11,944
- 1,400
This is happening now...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ManeYcVSrw&context=C4b16b0fADvjVQa1PpcFN91vH7IjFcCzJcnsav0RcIxgxiD4ZStYk=]"If I wanted America to fail" - TV - YouTube[/ame]
PROOF??
In January, Hovensa entered into a consent decree with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Justice Department in which the company agreed to invest $700 million on pollution controls after a series of chemical releases affected people living downwind from the refinery.
Hovensa also agreed to pay a $5.4 million penalty for violating the Clean Air Act.
With the additional modification costs and fines, it was no longer economical to operate the refinery and the decision was made to close it.
Hovensa Refinery Closing on St. Croix
This St. Croix refinery could NO LONGER AFFORD primarily due to $700 million more in pollution controls needed to meet EPA!!!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ManeYcVSrw&context=C4b16b0fADvjVQa1PpcFN91vH7IjFcCzJcnsav0RcIxgxiD4ZStYk=]"If I wanted America to fail" - TV - YouTube[/ame]
PROOF??
In January, Hovensa entered into a consent decree with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Justice Department in which the company agreed to invest $700 million on pollution controls after a series of chemical releases affected people living downwind from the refinery.
Hovensa also agreed to pay a $5.4 million penalty for violating the Clean Air Act.
With the additional modification costs and fines, it was no longer economical to operate the refinery and the decision was made to close it.
Hovensa Refinery Closing on St. Croix
This St. Croix refinery could NO LONGER AFFORD primarily due to $700 million more in pollution controls needed to meet EPA!!!
007
Charter Member
If you wanted America to fail, you'd vote to reelect the kenyan.
HereWeGoAgain
Diamond Member
Not sure if this has been posted or not. But it's pretty powerful stuff.
"If I wanted America to fail" - YouTube
"If I wanted America to fail" - YouTube
HereWeGoAgain
Diamond Member
Whoops my bad.
HereWeGoAgain
Diamond Member
Powerful stuff!!
Zoom-boing
Platinum Member
The Infidel
EVIL CONSERVATIVE
007
Charter Member
Just hit #1 link on Drudge, and it's only been out a matter of hours.
EXCELLENT video.
EXCELLENT video.
Similar threads
New Topics
-
-
-
Library Cat Loves The Library SO Much He Has His Own Library Card 🥰- Started by ChristisKing
- Replies: 4
-
-
