Zone1 If Homosexuality Is A Sin, Then Where Does It Come From?

[ChristisKing]

I used to think that people could just choose to be gay, so I was shaking my head about why gay Christians exist. However, I recently had my mind changed and learned that people can be devout Christians and still be gay and just not act upon it so my question is why are people born gay if it's a sin? Where does homosexuality come from if God creates everybody?

 

[Votto]

I used to think that people could just choose to be gay, so I was shaking my head about why gay Christians exist. However, I recently had my mind changed and learned that people can be devout Christians and still be gay and just not act upon it so my question is why are people born gay if it's a sin? Where does homosexuality come from if God creates everybody?

Well, if you say that people are only gay because they are inspired by other gay people, then when did the first gay person come from? So, that does not make sense

But today that it is not also culturally mediated, since all men in ancient Sparta participated in gay sex, also seems wrong since they all could not have had the 'gay gene'

The answer I think is somewhere in between.

As for myself, I believe man is a fallen creature, and as such, is subject to dysfunction in all aspects of their existence, whether it be spiritual dysfunction or emotional or physical or sexual.

We are just all screwed up is all.

 

[pknopp]

In Matthew 19:12 Jesus says that not everyone is born the same. He was speaking about men without a sexual attraction to women.

 

[Zebra]

I used to think that people could just choose to be gay, so I was shaking my head about why gay Christians exist. However, I recently had my mind changed and learned that people can be devout Christians and still be gay and just not act upon it so my question is why are people born gay if it's a sin? Where does homosexuality come from if God creates everybody?

a really good question

and yes, gays dont choose to be gay

 

[ChristisKing]

I just feel bad for people who are truly devoted to Christ but know that they can never find true love because of how obedient they are. I mean, I don't want this being shoved down my throat or down the throats of children but at the same time I'm sort of wondering why is this even a commandment anyways? I know that gay people can't procreate but if they want to be homosexual shouldn't God still let them? Who is it hurting?

 

[Votto]

In Matthew 19:12 Jesus says that not everyone is born the same. He was speaking about men without a sexual attraction to women.

I don't think that the average Christian would say that it is sinful to be attracted to what you should not be attracted too.

For example, heterosexual men are attracted to women married to other men. The question becomes, what do you do with that attraction? Do you entertain it, which would be a sin, or have sex with them, which would be a greater sin?

 

[Zebra]

I just feel bad for people who are truly devoted to Christ but know that they can never find true love because of how obedient they are. I mean, I don't want this being shoved down my throat or down the throats of children but at the same time I'm sort of wondering why is this even a commandment anyways? I know that gay people can't procreate but if they want to be homosexual shouldn't God still let them? Who is it hurting?

Jesus never said anything about gay or lesbian persons

that is only OT stuff ......

 

[Mac-7]

I used to think that people could just choose to be gay, so I was shaking my head about why gay Christians exist. However, I recently had my mind changed and learned that people can be devout Christians and still be gay and just not act upon it so my question is why are people born gay if it's a sin? Where does homosexuality come from if God creates everybody?

Humans are born sinners

 

[Votto]

I just feel bad for people who are truly devoted to Christ but know that they can never find true love because of how obedient they are. I mean, I don't want this being shoved down my throat or down the throats of children but at the same time I'm sort of wondering why is this even a commandment anyways? I know that gay people can't procreate but if they want to be homosexual shouldn't God still let them? Who is it hurting?

I can't disagree. It reminds me of the prophet Jeremiah who God told not to take a wife.

That would be a bitter pill to swallow.

 

[Votto]

Jesus never said anything about gay or lesbian persons

that is only OT stuff ......

Incorrect.

Try again.

Google is your friend.

 

[pknopp]

I don't think that the average Christian would say that it is sinful to be attracted to what you should not be attracted too.

If one is born that way, how is it you can refuse how you were born?

For example, heterosexual men are attracted to women married to other men. The question becomes, what do you do with that attraction? Do you entertain it, which would be a sin, or have sex with them, which would be a greater sin?

Seems to me no one cares about that any longer.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Jesus never said anything about gay or lesbian persons
that is only OT stuff ......

OT is a part of Christianity.

 

[ChristisKing]

Humans are born sinners

Well except Jesus.

 

[Zebra]

OT is a part of Christianity.

only partly

 

[pknopp]

OT is a part of Christianity.

Yes but Jesus isn't in the OT specifically.

 

[Zebra]

Well except Jesus.

and Mary

 

[M14 Shooter]

I don't think that the average Christian would say that it is sinful to be attracted to what you should not be attracted too.
For example, heterosexual men are attracted to women married to other men. The question becomes, what do you do with that attraction? Do you entertain it, which would be a sin, or have sex with them, which would be a greater sin?

See: 7 deadly sins

 

[Zebra]

Yes but Jesus isn't in the OT specifically.

exactly!

 

[Mac-7]

Well except Jesus.

Oh course

 

[M14 Shooter]

only partly

It's part of the Bible, so...