Zone1 If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

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Why does Crepitus get the luck but not me?

I think she was saying bye to him because he was supposed to be leaving.

 

[Hafar1014]

That's right.

That's all there has ever been.

So we have belief that claims it based on evidence when there clearly is none. Thats because their faith is weak. Evidence is objective concrete and measurable. Al they have is someone wrote something or claimed to have said something. Thats hearsay.

 

[GLASNOST]

So we have belief that claims it based on evidence when there clearly is none. Thats because their faith is weak. Evidence is objective concrete and measurable. Al they have is someone wrote something or claimed to have said something. Thats hearsay.

That's right. I suggest that you write something to the contrary so I can copy it and use it as proof to anyone who disagrees. I can say "I have proof". “Look! It’s written right here!”

 

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That's right. I suggest that you write something to the contrary so I can copy it and use it as proof to anyone who disagrees. I can say "I have proof". “Look! It’s written right here!”

Tons of evidence. They didn't just turn their back on their religion for no good reason. We have the historical actions of his disciples and Paul's letters. We have the Babylonian Talmud and we have non-Christian historians. We have an empty tomb. We have persecution, imprisonment and death. We have no competing accounts of his miracles or his resurrection or that his disciples didn't worship him after he rose from the dead.

 

[Hafar1014]

That's right. I suggest that you write something to the contrary so I can copy it and use it as proof to anyone who disagrees. I can say "I have proof". “Look! It’s written right here!”

Jesus never existed as god because there was no original sin which is the only reason for his existence.

 

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Jesus never existed as god because there was no original sin which is the only reason for his existence.

So if there were "original sin" - which is the same as Judaism's yetzer hara - then Jesus did exist as God?

Have you ever taken a course on logic or grammar composition?

 

[BreezeWood]

It's actual evidence. They didn't just turn their back on their religion for no good reason. We have the historical actions of his disciples and Paul's letters. We have the Babylonian Talmud and we have non-Christian historians. We have an empty tomb. We have persecution, imprisonment and death. We have no competing accounts of his miracles or his resurrection or that his disciples didn't worship him after he rose from the dead.

- they deceived and made one up in the 4th century ...

all lies from the same christian bible of forgeries lies and fallacies - used to facilitate a false religion of servitude and denial - in particular to distort the 1st century events, jesus and their objective to repudiate judaism, false commandments hereditary idolatry et al -

used primarily to persecute and victimize the innocent - those who truly were the followers of jesus and the very purpose for their bible written by the crucifiers - bing.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

- they deceived and made one up in the 4th century ...

all lies from the same christian bible of forgeries lies and fallacies - used to facilitate a false religion of servitude and denial - in particular to distort the 1st century events, jesus and their objective to repudiate judaism, false commandments hereditary idolatry et al -

used primarily to persecute and victimize the innocent - those who truly were the followers of jesus and the very purpose of their bible written by the crucifiers - bing.

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Cute post.




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[BreezeWood]

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Cute post.




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- they deceived and made one up in the 4th century ...

appealing to certain types ...

of the lowest of characters, their book of fallacies lies and forgeries to facilitate persecution and victimization of the innocent.

their claims of heavenly servitude and denial than the truth they fear most from who they crucified - liberation theology, self determination.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Not just the christian god, any god.

If they were real it would be self evident.

From a guy who spend decades as a preacher:

“Christians go in with their god as an assumption rather than a conclusion. When in fact, after close examination, the virgin birth falls apart, the resurrection falls apart, the basis of morality falls apart, the promise of afterlife fizzles into fear based marketing.”

“The gods of Islam, of Judaism, of Christianity only exist in scripture. If they actually existed, we wouldn’t need the books to claim they did. Once the book fails, the god goes with it.”



Feel free to explain why he is wrong or right.

More than 2 billion "Catholics/Christians" in Today's World, & Somehow You have the Undeniable Proof that they are all Wrong?

 

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- they deceived and made one up in the 4th century ...

all lies from the same christian bible of forgeries lies and fallacies - used to facilitate a false religion of servitude and denial - in particular to distort the 1st century events, jesus and their objective to repudiate judaism, false commandments hereditary idolatry et al -

used primarily to persecute and victimize the innocent - those who truly were the followers of jesus and the very purpose for their bible written by the crucifiers - bing.

Your conspiracy theory timeline is off by hundreds of years. They began worshipping Jesus as God immediately after he rose from the dead.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Many cultures have religion with only oral tradition to support it. The Bible is history, prophecy, wisdom, and religious instruction in one place, meant for a modern, literate people. It is also timeless, with warnings not to alter it in any way.

It's also verified with many Archeological Finds, and by many of those "Prophecies" having been fulfilled, & by some now becoming Reality.

 

[GLASNOST]

ding OhPleaseJustQuit​

Hafar1014 ..... I suggest that you write something to the contrary so I can copy it and use it as proof to anyone who disagrees. I can say "I have proof. Look! It’s written right here!”​

THEIST: “Jesus is the son of God".​

GLASNOST: “No, he isn’t and I have proof.”
THEIST: “What proof?”
GLASNOST: “Here! Hafar 1014 wrote that Jesus said he is not the son of God.”
THEIST: “Why should you believe Hafar 1014?”
GLASNOST: “Because Hafar 1014 says he was there when Jesus said it.”
THEIST: “And you believe him?”
GLASNOST: “Not at first but then he said his mother was a virgin.”
THEIST: “Oh! I can’t argue with that!”

 

[BreezeWood]

Your conspiracy theory timeline is off by hundreds of years. They began worshipping Jesus as God immediately after he rose from the dead.

no they did not - they worshiped no one ...

they loved jesus and their message of liberation theology and self determination - no where found in your 4th century book of forgeries lies and fallacies, religion of servitude and denial - monarchical worship.

 

[Woodznutz]

no they did not - they worshiped no one ...

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they loved jesus and their message of liberation theology and self determination - no where found in your 4th century book of forgeries lies and fallacies, religion of servitude and denial - monarchical worship.

Lots of worship of Jesus in the NT. Look it up.

 

[GLASNOST]

More than 2 billion "Catholics/Christians" in Today's World, & Somehow You have the Undeniable Proof that they are all Wrong?

With more than 8 billion people in Today's World that puts you in the minority. But somehow you think you are right and the vast MAJORITY are wrong.

 

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ding OhPleaseJustQuit​

THEIST: “Jesus is the son of God".​

GLASNOST: “No, he isn’t and I have proof.”
THEIST: “What proof?”
GLASNOST: “Here! Hafar 1014 wrote that Jesus said he is not the son of God.”
THEIST: “Why should you believe Hafar 1014?”
GLASNOST: “Because Hafar 1014 says he was there when Jesus said it.”
THEIST: “And you believe him?”
GLASNOST: “Not at first but then he said his mother was a virgin.”
THEIST: “Oh! I can’t argue with that!”

Wouldn't it have been easier to say where's the body?

 

[Woodznutz]

Your conspiracy theory timeline is off by hundreds of years. They began worshipping Jesus as God immediately after he rose from the dead.

Lots of scriptures reveal that he was worshipped before he was killed as well.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

With more than 8 billion people in Today's World that puts you in the minority. But somehow you think you are right and the vast MAJORITY are wrong.

Many are called, but few are chosen -- Jesus

 

[Woodznutz]

Many are called, but few are chosen -- Jesus

True. If all who call themselves Christians were actually 'spirit-led' the world would be a different place.