Can you share with me what you believe about God? Tell me if you believe God is good or bad? Tell me if you believe God works through you? Things like that.
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Is it that you don't believe in God? Is that why you can't tell me your beliefs?
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I'm going to have to go with you. Now will you tell me what your beliefs are on God?
No. I changed my mind. I pick Muhammad. Tell me about the bad things Muhammad did, ok? I pick Muhammad.
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Yet that is what you ask us to do.Actually, no it doesn't mean that. I'm not the one who is practicing critical theory. That's what you are doing. I don't define my beliefs by criticizing what I don't believe. Christianity is the foundation that Western Civilization was laid upon. By any objective measure Western Civilization has been a force for good, thus, Christianity has been a force for good. Do you believe that Western Civilization has not been a force for good? In the history of Western Civilization there have been many bad things that man has done, I don't need to itemize them to know that the overall benefit has been good. The logical conclusion of your argument is that religion should be banned.I have already provided the positive case for religion. You are not objective enough to accept it. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without religion. Yet history records nations which have been ruled by militant atheists like yourself quite differently.
Because there is no positive case for religion. What you deem as "positive cases" for religion, are actually just acts of goodness by people who care for other people. That has nothing to do with religion.
The fact that you have to attribute acts of goodness to religion, means that you yourself have such a negative view of humanity that you think the only thing that keeps us going and being "good" is your OBG.
Dogs do good things for other dogs. They don't go around yapping about Puppy Claws being the reason they do what they do and how other dogs should believe in it... They just do it because it is natural. Helps them maintain their species, their family, and themselves.
You, on the other hand, have this belief that without God or religion, we would all kill everyone because we don't have direction or a common goal or a sense of morality.
My argument, is that religion is the one killing everyone. Sane people like most of us here realize that, and shun religion for the evil that it is.
Religion has never caused any good. It has instead attributed to itself "good" things that humans normally do, as the reasons they do it. But that is false, and why you are brainwashed.
Religions would decimate a population and steal all their riches, and take the people that survive as slaves, and use that money and manpower to build holy monuments and cathedrals for their followers to visit, but that is actually NOT a "good" thing as you seem to believe! It is a very BAD thing...
So tell me something negative religion has done, if you're such an objective thinker...
No. You said you are objective...
So tell me negative things about religion. Otherwise, you're just spouting stuff that you were brainwashed with as a child. And still believe as an adult.
Yes, atheism taken to an extreme is a religion. But I don't sense that here, otherwise I'd be on their ass just as bad... We are agnostics who question why people are killing each other, due to religion. And why their "god" doesn't step up to the plate and stop it.Yes, atheism is a religion. No, not all religions kill everything in their way.I have already provided the positive case for religion. You are not objective enough to accept it. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without religion. Yet history records nations which have been ruled by militant atheists like yourself quite differently.
Because there is no positive case for religion. What you deem as "positive cases" for religion, are actually just acts of goodness by people who care for other people. That has nothing to do with religion.
The fact that you have to attribute acts of goodness to religion, means that you yourself have such a negative view of humanity that you think the only thing that keeps us going and being "good" is your OBG.
Dogs do good things for other dogs. They don't go around yapping about Puppy Claws being the reason they do what they do and how other dogs should believe in it... They just do it because it is natural. Helps them maintain their species, their family, and themselves.
You, on the other hand, have this belief that without God or religion, we would all kill everyone because we don't have direction or a common goal or a sense of morality.
My argument, is that religion is the one killing everyone. Sane people like most of us here realize that, and shun religion for the evil that it is.
Religion has never caused any good. It has instead attributed to itself "good" things that humans normally do, as the reasons they do it. But that is false, and why you are brainwashed.
Religions would decimate a population and steal all their riches, and take the people that survive as slaves, and use that money and manpower to build holy monuments and cathedrals for their followers to visit, but that is actually NOT a "good" thing as you seem to believe! It is a very BAD thing...
So tell me something negative religion has done, if you're such an objective thinker...
If you are referring to "socialist" countries, then the truth is that they are also a religion. They're a form of Calvinism and Puritanism, minus the "god" part.
And it's also a false religion because the purpose of Socialism is to lead the people to Communism. Which will never happen! It's their version of "heaven". An ideal that does not exist, but causes people to continue to give everything they have to benefit the rulers, in the futile hope that they can get there, and the fear of death if they don't.
So the so-called "atheist" countries that you mention in the 20th century, are actually devout religions.
And like every other religion, they will kill everyone who stands in their way...
Actually, no it doesn't mean that. I'm not the one who is practicing critical theory. That's what you are doing. I don't define my beliefs by criticizing what I don't believe. Christianity is the foundation that Western Civilization was laid upon. By any objective measure Western Civilization has been a force for good, thus, Christianity has been a force for good. Do you believe that Western Civilization has not been a force for good? In the history of Western Civilization there have been many bad things that man has done, I don't need to itemize them to know that the overall benefit has been good. The logical conclusion of your argument is that religion should be banned.I have already provided the positive case for religion. You are not objective enough to accept it. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without religion. Yet history records nations which have been ruled by militant atheists like yourself quite differently.
Because there is no positive case for religion. What you deem as "positive cases" for religion, are actually just acts of goodness by people who care for other people. That has nothing to do with religion.
The fact that you have to attribute acts of goodness to religion, means that you yourself have such a negative view of humanity that you think the only thing that keeps us going and being "good" is your OBG.
Dogs do good things for other dogs. They don't go around yapping about Puppy Claws being the reason they do what they do and how other dogs should believe in it... They just do it because it is natural. Helps them maintain their species, their family, and themselves.
You, on the other hand, have this belief that without God or religion, we would all kill everyone because we don't have direction or a common goal or a sense of morality.
My argument, is that religion is the one killing everyone. Sane people like most of us here realize that, and shun religion for the evil that it is.
Religion has never caused any good. It has instead attributed to itself "good" things that humans normally do, as the reasons they do it. But that is false, and why you are brainwashed.
Religions would decimate a population and steal all their riches, and take the people that survive as slaves, and use that money and manpower to build holy monuments and cathedrals for their followers to visit, but that is actually NOT a "good" thing as you seem to believe! It is a very BAD thing...
So tell me something negative religion has done, if you're such an objective thinker...
No. You said you are objective...
So tell me negative things about religion. Otherwise, you're just spouting stuff that you were brainwashed with as a child. And still believe as an adult.
Maybe you can tell me about your beliefs of God then. How's that? Can you share with me what you believe about God? Tell me if you believe God is good or bad? Tell me if you believe God works through you? Can you tell me anything at all about your beliefs?.Actually, no it doesn't mean that. I'm not the one who is practicing critical theory. That's what you are doing. I don't define my beliefs by criticizing what I don't believe. Christianity is the foundation that Western Civilization was laid upon. By any objective measure Western Civilization has been a force for good, thus, Christianity has been a force for good. Do you believe that Western Civilization has not been a force for good? In the history of Western Civilization there have been many bad things that man has done, I don't need to itemize them to know that the overall benefit has been good. The logical conclusion of your argument is that religion should be banned.I have already provided the positive case for religion. You are not objective enough to accept it. You have a vague rosy notion of goodness of life without religion. Yet history records nations which have been ruled by militant atheists like yourself quite differently.Because there is no positive case for religion. What you deem as "positive cases" for religion, are actually just acts of goodness by people who care for other people. That has nothing to do with religion.
The fact that you have to attribute acts of goodness to religion, means that you yourself have such a negative view of humanity that you think the only thing that keeps us going and being "good" is your OBG.
Dogs do good things for other dogs. They don't go around yapping about Puppy Claws being the reason they do what they do and how other dogs should believe in it... They just do it because it is natural. Helps them maintain their species, their family, and themselves.
You, on the other hand, have this belief that without God or religion, we would all kill everyone because we don't have direction or a common goal or a sense of morality.
My argument, is that religion is the one killing everyone. Sane people like most of us here realize that, and shun religion for the evil that it is.
Religion has never caused any good. It has instead attributed to itself "good" things that humans normally do, as the reasons they do it. But that is false, and why you are brainwashed.
Religions would decimate a population and steal all their riches, and take the people that survive as slaves, and use that money and manpower to build holy monuments and cathedrals for their followers to visit, but that is actually NOT a "good" thing as you seem to believe! It is a very BAD thing...
So tell me something negative religion has done, if you're such an objective thinker...
No. You said you are objective...
So tell me negative things about religion. Otherwise, you're just spouting stuff that you were brainwashed with as a child. And still believe as an adult.
a rather pathetic statement ... how else could a christian characterize their religion.
with his trumpet blaring ...
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Mother Theresa? Is your point that it's very hard to think of one?
That because as of right now it doesn't seem like a harmful lie but it once was and some say it still is.
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