If Democrats really care about human life, why don't they care about 3000 babies aborted per day?

[whitehall]

Ask yourself honestly who benefits most from unrestricted abortion. Is it women who sometimes exhibit mental problems similar to PTSD after knowingly killing the life that existed inside them? The dominant social structure that benefits the most from abortion is the liberal male. All his future responsibilities are wiped out at the stroke of a scalpel and the woman is left with the physical and mental scars for the rest of her life.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What's hilarious is all the mental gymnastics Democrats will do to justify abortion, rather than simply admit they are wrong.

democrats are on the constitutionally correct side of this legal argument.

PS: republican women abort pregnancies every day, Despite your mental gymnastics, this is a fact.

The second amendment is IN the Constitution and is clear as a bell, further courts have ruled what it means. Yet you would remove that right while claiming killing children via abortion should remain.

Tell me more about those well regulated militias

As has been explained by people a lot smarter then me you do not understand the written word english your second language? Further the Supreme Court ruled JUST like in abortion what it means, It is an INDIVIDUAL right not connected to membership in a militia.

 

[rightwinger]

What's hilarious is all the mental gymnastics Democrats will do to justify abortion, rather than simply admit they are wrong.

democrats are on the constitutionally correct side of this legal argument.

PS: republican women abort pregnancies every day, Despite your mental gymnastics, this is a fact.

The second amendment is IN the Constitution and is clear as a bell, further courts have ruled what it means. Yet you would remove that right while claiming killing children via abortion should remain.

Tell me more about those well regulated militias

As has been explained by people a lot smarter then me you do not understand the written word english your second language? Further the Supreme Court ruled JUST like in abortion what it means, It is an INDIVIDUAL right not connected to membership in a militia.

I thought you said it was clear as a bell?
Why does it require so much explaining?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In a 7-2 decision written by Justice Harry Blackmun (who was chosen because of his prior experience as counsel to the Mayo Clinic), the Court ruled that the Texas statute violated Jane Roe's constitutional right to privacy. The Court argued that the Constitution's First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's "zone of privacy" against state laws and cited past cases ruling that marriage, contraception, and child rearing are activities covered in this "zone of privacy." The Court then argued that the "zone of privacy" was "broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy." This decision involved myriad physical, psychological, and economic stresses a pregnant woman must face.

Because abortions lie within a pregnant woman's "zone of privacy," the abortion decision "and its effectuation" are fundamental rights that are protected by the Constitution from regulation by the states...

The Court reviewed the history of abortion laws, from ancient Greece to contemporary America, and therein found three justifications for banning abortions: "a Victorian social concern to discourage illicit sexual conduct"; protecting the health of women; and protecting prenatal life. The Court rejected the first two justifications as irrelevant given modern gender roles and medical technology. As for the third justification, the Court argued that prenatal life was not within the definition of "persons" as used and protected in the U.S. Constitution and that America's criminal and civil laws only sometimes regard fetuses as persons deserving protection.

The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Landmark Cases . Roe v. Wade (1973) | PBS

Didn’t Elsa Lancaster. Have a lot of lovers cause her husband was a fag?

Democrats are saying they care about human life, demanding gun control every time there is a mass shooting.



But these same Democrats care nothing about the 3000 babies who die every day to suction machines, forceps and scissors.

The reality is Democrats don't care about human life, because they are enemies of God, and see their fellow humans as nothing more than slabs of meat controlled by chemicals.

Abortion is an already 45 year old SETTLED U.S. Supreme court issue. As as Niel Gorsuch (Trump's U.S. Supreme court Judge) stated during Senate confirmation hearings--is that Roe v Wade has been challenged so many times, it is now Precedent in the U.S. Constitution, meaning SET IN STONE TO YOU.
Gorsuch to Feinstein: Abortion ruling is 'precedent'

The court does not consider a baby a human being until it is out of the womb, or born and breathing on it's own. In the womb it is still considered a fetus.

There are reasons for abortions.
1. The life of the mother
2. Rape
3. Incest
4. Severe deformities, brain function & the likelyhood of survival after the fetus is born
5. Still born's

Since our laws are nondiscrimanatory--you cannot pick and choose who is eligible for an abortion and who is not.

My right to a firearm is as old as the Constitution.

As is your right to vote. And we can take that away, under certain circumstances. I wouldnt ban guns....but making them more restricted is fine by me. Better tracking, national database for compiling undesirables, etc.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ask yourself honestly who benefits most from unrestricted abortion. Is it women who sometimes exhibit mental problems similar to PTSD after knowingly killing the life that existed inside them? The dominant social structure that benefits the most from abortion is the liberal male. All his future responsibilities are wiped out at the stroke of a scalpel and the woman is left with the physical and mental scars for the rest of her life.

Well that's freakish.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What's hilarious is all the mental gymnastics Democrats will do to justify abortion, rather than simply admit they are wrong.

democrats are on the constitutionally correct side of this legal argument.

PS: republican women abort pregnancies every day, Despite your mental gymnastics, this is a fact.

The second amendment is IN the Constitution and is clear as a bell, further courts have ruled what it means. Yet you would remove that right while claiming killing children via abortion should remain.

Tell me more about those well regulated militias

As has been explained by people a lot smarter then me you do not understand the written word english your second language? Further the Supreme Court ruled JUST like in abortion what it means, It is an INDIVIDUAL right not connected to membership in a militia.

I thought you said it was clear as a bell?
Why does it require so much explaining?

Doesn't matter it WAS explained retard. And you keep lying about what it means. As for this conversation the 2nd has existed since the Constitution began abortion is only 45 years old as a right.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In a 7-2 decision written by Justice Harry Blackmun (who was chosen because of his prior experience as counsel to the Mayo Clinic), the Court ruled that the Texas statute violated Jane Roe's constitutional right to privacy. The Court argued that the Constitution's First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's "zone of privacy" against state laws and cited past cases ruling that marriage, contraception, and child rearing are activities covered in this "zone of privacy." The Court then argued that the "zone of privacy" was "broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy." This decision involved myriad physical, psychological, and economic stresses a pregnant woman must face.

Because abortions lie within a pregnant woman's "zone of privacy," the abortion decision "and its effectuation" are fundamental rights that are protected by the Constitution from regulation by the states...

The Court reviewed the history of abortion laws, from ancient Greece to contemporary America, and therein found three justifications for banning abortions: "a Victorian social concern to discourage illicit sexual conduct"; protecting the health of women; and protecting prenatal life. The Court rejected the first two justifications as irrelevant given modern gender roles and medical technology. As for the third justification, the Court argued that prenatal life was not within the definition of "persons" as used and protected in the U.S. Constitution and that America's criminal and civil laws only sometimes regard fetuses as persons deserving protection.

The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Landmark Cases . Roe v. Wade (1973) | PBS

Didn’t Elsa Lancaster. Have a lot of lovers cause her husband was a fag?

Democrats are saying they care about human life, demanding gun control every time there is a mass shooting.



But these same Democrats care nothing about the 3000 babies who die every day to suction machines, forceps and scissors.

The reality is Democrats don't care about human life, because they are enemies of God, and see their fellow humans as nothing more than slabs of meat controlled by chemicals.

Abortion is an already 45 year old SETTLED U.S. Supreme court issue. As as Niel Gorsuch (Trump's U.S. Supreme court Judge) stated during Senate confirmation hearings--is that Roe v Wade has been challenged so many times, it is now Precedent in the U.S. Constitution, meaning SET IN STONE TO YOU.
Gorsuch to Feinstein: Abortion ruling is 'precedent'

The court does not consider a baby a human being until it is out of the womb, or born and breathing on it's own. In the womb it is still considered a fetus.

There are reasons for abortions.
1. The life of the mother
2. Rape
3. Incest
4. Severe deformities, brain function & the likelyhood of survival after the fetus is born
5. Still born's

Since our laws are nondiscrimanatory--you cannot pick and choose who is eligible for an abortion and who is not.

My right to a firearm is as old as the Constitution.

As is your right to vote. And we can take that away, under certain circumstances. I wouldnt ban guns....but making them more restricted is fine by me. Better tracking, national database for compiling undesirables, etc.

The Supreme Court has ruled that a weapon MUST be of use by the military, you can not ban nor restrict semi automatic rifles.

 

[mamooth]

Ask yourself honestly who benefits most from unrestricted abortion.

That's easy. Those who favor liberty benefit.

Likewise, those who favor authoritarianism benefit from abortion bans.

It really is entirely about liberty. We pro-choicers support liberty, while pro-lifers are anti-liberty. Look at the nations that ban abortion. They're mostly either muslim theocracies or third world dictatorships. And pro-lifers want us to be part of that club. Being anti-abortion goes along with being anti-human-rights.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In a 7-2 decision written by Justice Harry Blackmun (who was chosen because of his prior experience as counsel to the Mayo Clinic), the Court ruled that the Texas statute violated Jane Roe's constitutional right to privacy. The Court argued that the Constitution's First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's "zone of privacy" against state laws and cited past cases ruling that marriage, contraception, and child rearing are activities covered in this "zone of privacy." The Court then argued that the "zone of privacy" was "broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy." This decision involved myriad physical, psychological, and economic stresses a pregnant woman must face.

Because abortions lie within a pregnant woman's "zone of privacy," the abortion decision "and its effectuation" are fundamental rights that are protected by the Constitution from regulation by the states...

The Court reviewed the history of abortion laws, from ancient Greece to contemporary America, and therein found three justifications for banning abortions: "a Victorian social concern to discourage illicit sexual conduct"; protecting the health of women; and protecting prenatal life. The Court rejected the first two justifications as irrelevant given modern gender roles and medical technology. As for the third justification, the Court argued that prenatal life was not within the definition of "persons" as used and protected in the U.S. Constitution and that America's criminal and civil laws only sometimes regard fetuses as persons deserving protection.

The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Landmark Cases . Roe v. Wade (1973) | PBS

Didn’t Elsa Lancaster. Have a lot of lovers cause her husband was a fag?

Democrats are saying they care about human life, demanding gun control every time there is a mass shooting.



But these same Democrats care nothing about the 3000 babies who die every day to suction machines, forceps and scissors.

The reality is Democrats don't care about human life, because they are enemies of God, and see their fellow humans as nothing more than slabs of meat controlled by chemicals.

Abortion is an already 45 year old SETTLED U.S. Supreme court issue. As as Niel Gorsuch (Trump's U.S. Supreme court Judge) stated during Senate confirmation hearings--is that Roe v Wade has been challenged so many times, it is now Precedent in the U.S. Constitution, meaning SET IN STONE TO YOU.
Gorsuch to Feinstein: Abortion ruling is 'precedent'

The court does not consider a baby a human being until it is out of the womb, or born and breathing on it's own. In the womb it is still considered a fetus.

There are reasons for abortions.
1. The life of the mother
2. Rape
3. Incest
4. Severe deformities, brain function & the likelyhood of survival after the fetus is born
5. Still born's

Since our laws are nondiscrimanatory--you cannot pick and choose who is eligible for an abortion and who is not.

My right to a firearm is as old as the Constitution.

As is your right to vote. And we can take that away, under certain circumstances. I wouldnt ban guns....but making them more restricted is fine by me. Better tracking, national database for compiling undesirables, etc.

The Supreme Court has ruled that a weapon MUST be of use by the military, you can not ban nor restrict semi automatic rifles.

You absolutely can, and we do. Certain people cannot own them. There are licenses for sellers and buyers. There are places you cannot take them.

 

[Dragonlady]

Fetus is a word to dehumanize someone before you kill it.

Southerners also had a word for the people they victimized, a word to dehumanize them.

I can't even type the word here because the forum will censor it out.

Unlike fuck and shit which is allowed.

No fetus is the correct medical term for a gestating human which is not yet fully formed or capable of living outside the womb. There’s also zygote but that’s for a fertilized egg/cell cluster with no heartbeat.

A fetus is a potential life, and a fragile one at that. 1/3 of all pregnancies end in miscarriage so there is no guarantee that the fetus will become a baby. Most miscarriages take place in the first trimester. This is why people don’t generally announce a pregnancy until the second trimester, until the most vulnerable period has passed.

A baby can LIVE at 20 weeks. Yet you support unrestricted abortions to include right up to minutes before the baby is born. And don't deny it the Democrats in Congress just recently opposed a law that would ban abortion after 20 weeks except for medical necessity.

The test for genetic abnormalities is not done prior to 20 weeks gestation. It takes 4 weeks to get results. That’s week 24. Late term abortions aren’t done because a woman changes her mind. They’re done for the most heartbreaking of reasons. And they’re decisions no woman wants to ever have to make. This mothers to be wanted a baby. They took a test at 20 weeks, and said prayers every night for 4 weeks that their baby was fine, and the answer was no. You are asked to think about what your decision will be based on the result. You’ll be 24 weeks pregnant at that point. It’s assumed what you’ll do but these aren’t late regret pregnancies.

You are making assumptions that women are killing babies when in fact many of these pregnancies must be terminated for medical reasons. In some cases when the mothers have proceeded with the pregnancies, the child has died shortly after birth from the conditions diagnosed from the testing. This was their choice. Other families chose to stop now rather than go through three more months of pregnancy so the baby can die in their arms.

In other cases it’s health of the mother which is at risk. In some cases women have died and been kept alive by machines to continue gestation, again by their own choice beforehand, but all too often, the fetus doesn’t survive, either.

Again these are not your decisions, they’re not your children. They’re not your families. They’re not your bodies. This is healthcare. And it’s none of your fucking business.

 

[otto105]

Democrats are saying they care about human life, demanding gun control every time there is a mass shooting.

But these same Democrats care nothing about the 3000 babies who die every day to suction machines, forceps and scissors.

The reality is Democrats don't care about human life, because they are enemies of God, and see their fellow humans as nothing more than slabs of meat controlled by chemicals.

Our position on life is, that every fetus is wanted and to have a quality life in a loving family.

Not government control of a women's uterus.

 

[Dragonlady]

men should stop "thinking nothing of" being such fucking dogs toward women.

Women should stop fucking men in casual encounters after a night of bar hopping.

That’s not who get abortions.

Nearly half the women getting abortions are married or in a committed relationship. 75% cite financial reasons for getting an abortion and live at or just over the poverty line. Most are already parents and expressed concern for their ability to provide or care for another child.

The most telling statistic - 13% of abortions are obtained by evangelical Christians. That’s 120,000 evangical Christian women got abortions 2014. Hypocrite much!


Induced Abortion in the United States

Edited to reduce the number from 926,200 which was the total number of abortions in 2014.

 

[Dragonlady]

Ask yourself honestly who benefits most from unrestricted abortion. Is it women who sometimes exhibit mental problems similar to PTSD after knowingly killing the life that existed inside them? The dominant social structure that benefits the most from abortion is the liberal male. All his future responsibilities are wiped out at the stroke of a scalpel and the woman is left with the physical and mental scars for the rest of her life.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Fetus is a word to dehumanize someone before you kill it.

Southerners also had a word for the people they victimized, a word to dehumanize them.

I can't even type the word here because the forum will censor it out.

Unlike fuck and shit which is allowed.

No fetus is the correct medical term for a gestating human which is not yet fully formed or capable of living outside the womb. There’s also zygote but that’s for a fertilized egg/cell cluster with no heartbeat.

A fetus is a potential life, and a fragile one at that. 1/3 of all pregnancies end in miscarriage so there is no guarantee that the fetus will become a baby. Most miscarriages take place in the first trimester. This is why people don’t generally announce a pregnancy until the second trimester, until the most vulnerable period has passed.

A baby can LIVE at 20 weeks. Yet you support unrestricted abortions to include right up to minutes before the baby is born. And don't deny it the Democrats in Congress just recently opposed a law that would ban abortion after 20 weeks except for medical necessity.

The test for genetic abnormalities is not done prior to 20 weeks gestation. It takes 4 weeks to get results. That’s week 24. Late term abortions aren’t done because a woman changes her mind. They’re done for the most heartbreaking of reasons. And they’re decisions no woman wants to ever have to make. This mothers to be wanted a baby. They took a test at 20 weeks, and said prayers every night for 4 weeks that their baby was fine, and the answer was no. You are asked to think about what your decision will be based on the result. You’ll be 24 weeks pregnant at that point. It’s assumed what you’ll do but these aren’t late regret pregnancies.

You are making assumptions that women are killing babies when in fact many of these pregnancies must be terminated for medical reasons. In some cases when the mothers have proceeded with the pregnancies, the child has died shortly after birth from the conditions diagnosed from the testing. This was their choice. Other families chose to stop now rather than go through three more months of pregnancy so the baby can die in their arms.

In other cases it’s health of the mother which is at risk. In some cases women have died and been kept alive by machines to continue gestation, again by their own choice beforehand, but all too often, the fetus doesn’t survive, either.

Again these are not your decisions, they’re not your children. They’re not your families. They’re not your bodies. This is healthcare. And it’s none of your fucking business.

And it is NONE of your fucking business who owns firearms.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

In a 7-2 decision written by Justice Harry Blackmun (who was chosen because of his prior experience as counsel to the Mayo Clinic), the Court ruled that the Texas statute violated Jane Roe's constitutional right to privacy. The Court argued that the Constitution's First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's "zone of privacy" against state laws and cited past cases ruling that marriage, contraception, and child rearing are activities covered in this "zone of privacy." The Court then argued that the "zone of privacy" was "broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy." This decision involved myriad physical, psychological, and economic stresses a pregnant woman must face.

Because abortions lie within a pregnant woman's "zone of privacy," the abortion decision "and its effectuation" are fundamental rights that are protected by the Constitution from regulation by the states...

The Court reviewed the history of abortion laws, from ancient Greece to contemporary America, and therein found three justifications for banning abortions: "a Victorian social concern to discourage illicit sexual conduct"; protecting the health of women; and protecting prenatal life. The Court rejected the first two justifications as irrelevant given modern gender roles and medical technology. As for the third justification, the Court argued that prenatal life was not within the definition of "persons" as used and protected in the U.S. Constitution and that America's criminal and civil laws only sometimes regard fetuses as persons deserving protection.

The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Landmark Cases . Roe v. Wade (1973) | PBS

It's interesting, the bizarre twists that the corrupt court went through to find a “right” in the Constitution that is nowhere actually mentioned nor implied therein, and yet those who defend this ruling cannot see a right that is clearly and explicitly spelled out in the Second Amendment, and go to almost equally-bizarre twists to deny and violate that right.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Fetus is a word to dehumanize someone before you kill it.

Southerners also had a word for the people they victimized, a word to dehumanize them.

I can't even type the word here because the forum will censor it out.

Unlike fuck and shit which is allowed.

No fetus is the correct medical term for a gestating human which is not yet fully formed or capable of living outside the womb. There’s also zygote but that’s for a fertilized egg/cell cluster with no heartbeat.

A fetus is a potential life, and a fragile one at that. 1/3 of all pregnancies end in miscarriage so there is no guarantee that the fetus will become a baby. Most miscarriages take place in the first trimester. This is why people don’t generally announce a pregnancy until the second trimester, until the most vulnerable period has passed.

A baby can LIVE at 20 weeks. Yet you support unrestricted abortions to include right up to minutes before the baby is born. And don't deny it the Democrats in Congress just recently opposed a law that would ban abortion after 20 weeks except for medical necessity.

The test for genetic abnormalities is not done prior to 20 weeks gestation. It takes 4 weeks to get results. That’s week 24. Late term abortions aren’t done because a woman changes her mind. They’re done for the most heartbreaking of reasons. And they’re decisions no woman wants to ever have to make. This mothers to be wanted a baby. They took a test at 20 weeks, and said prayers every night for 4 weeks that their baby was fine, and the answer was no. You are asked to think about what your decision will be based on the result. You’ll be 24 weeks pregnant at that point. It’s assumed what you’ll do but these aren’t late regret pregnancies.

You are making assumptions that women are killing babies when in fact many of these pregnancies must be terminated for medical reasons. In some cases when the mothers have proceeded with the pregnancies, the child has died shortly after birth from the conditions diagnosed from the testing. This was their choice. Other families chose to stop now rather than go through three more months of pregnancy so the baby can die in their arms.

In other cases it’s health of the mother which is at risk. In some cases women have died and been kept alive by machines to continue gestation, again by their own choice beforehand, but all too often, the fetus doesn’t survive, either.

Again these are not your decisions, they’re not your children. They’re not your families. They’re not your bodies. This is healthcare. And it’s none of your fucking business.

And it is NONE of your fucking business who owns firearms.

Of course it is. What an odd retort.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Fetus is a word to dehumanize someone before you kill it.

Southerners also had a word for the people they victimized, a word to dehumanize them.

I can't even type the word here because the forum will censor it out.

Unlike fuck and shit which is allowed.

No fetus is the correct medical term for a gestating human which is not yet fully formed or capable of living outside the womb. There’s also zygote but that’s for a fertilized egg/cell cluster with no heartbeat.

A fetus is a potential life, and a fragile one at that. 1/3 of all pregnancies end in miscarriage so there is no guarantee that the fetus will become a baby. Most miscarriages take place in the first trimester. This is why people don’t generally announce a pregnancy until the second trimester, until the most vulnerable period has passed.

A baby can LIVE at 20 weeks. Yet you support unrestricted abortions to include right up to minutes before the baby is born. And don't deny it the Democrats in Congress just recently opposed a law that would ban abortion after 20 weeks except for medical necessity.

The test for genetic abnormalities is not done prior to 20 weeks gestation. It takes 4 weeks to get results. That’s week 24. Late term abortions aren’t done because a woman changes her mind. They’re done for the most heartbreaking of reasons. And they’re decisions no woman wants to ever have to make. This mothers to be wanted a baby. They took a test at 20 weeks, and said prayers every night for 4 weeks that their baby was fine, and the answer was no. You are asked to think about what your decision will be based on the result. You’ll be 24 weeks pregnant at that point. It’s assumed what you’ll do but these aren’t late regret pregnancies.

You are making assumptions that women are killing babies when in fact many of these pregnancies must be terminated for medical reasons. In some cases when the mothers have proceeded with the pregnancies, the child has died shortly after birth from the conditions diagnosed from the testing. This was their choice. Other families chose to stop now rather than go through three more months of pregnancy so the baby can die in their arms.

In other cases it’s health of the mother which is at risk. In some cases women have died and been kept alive by machines to continue gestation, again by their own choice beforehand, but all too often, the fetus doesn’t survive, either.

Again these are not your decisions, they’re not your children. They’re not your families. They’re not your bodies. This is healthcare. And it’s none of your fucking business.

And it is NONE of your fucking business who owns firearms.

Of course it is. What an odd retort.

The 2nd amendment actually exists and is an actual amendment in the Constitution. The right to an abortion is a made up right that is not actually written anywhere. But you claim that is inviolate but the second is not. Go figure.