If Anyone Wonders Why I Left the Republican Party Just Look At the Cheney Vote

[Ray From Cleveland]

Think about it dumb ass. Trump had to be talking about closing down businesses and schools. He was talking about saving 2.2 million lives. Are you saying Trump thought he could save 2.2 million lives by shutting down air travel from China? If so you are even dumber than I originally thought.

Great! Then post the link where you copied/ pasted that from.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I didn’t say anything about controlling cities and states. I said “Be president of all Americans” during a national crisis. It’s called leading and helping in whatever way possible.

Which he did.

TIMELINE: The Trump Administration’s Decisive Actions To Combat the Coronavirus

The Trump Administration took critical action early on to combat the coronavirus and keep Americans safe.

www.donaldjtrump.com

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Great! Then post the link where you copied/ pasted that from.

This was Dr. Birx with TrumpQ standing next to her:

In their estimates, they had between 1.5 million and 2.2 million people in the United States succumbing to this virus without mitigation. Yet, through their detailed studies and showing us what social distancing would do, what people — what would happen if people stayed home, what would happen if people were careful every day to wash their hands and worry about touching their faces, that what an extraordinary thing this could be if every American followed these. And it takes us to that stippled mountain that’s much lower — a hill, actually — down to 100,000 to 200,000 deaths, which is still way too much.​

Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing – The White House

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Like I said:

That’s why TrumpQ said this;

THE PRESIDENT: It says 100- to 200,000. Anything — it’s a lot of people, right? It’s a lot of people.​

Well, you didn’t ask the other question. What would have happened — because this is the question that I’ve been asking Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx for a long time, and they’ve been working on this for a long time.​

The question is: What would have happened if we did nothing? Because there was a group that said, “Let’s just ride it out. Let’s ride it out.” What would have happened? And that number comes in at 1.5 to 1.6 million people, up to 2.2 and even beyond. So that’s 2.2 million people would have died if we did nothing, if we just carried on our life.​

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Great! Then post the link where you copied/ pasted that from.

This was Dr. Birx with TrumpQ standing next to her:

In their estimates, they had between 1.5 million and 2.2 million people in the United States succumbing to this virus without mitigation. Yet, through their detailed studies and showing us what social distancing would do, what people — what would happen if people stayed home, what would happen if people were careful every day to wash their hands and worry about touching their faces, that what an extraordinary thing this could be if every American followed these. And it takes us to that stippled mountain that’s much lower — a hill, actually — down to 100,000 to 200,000 deaths, which is still way too much.​

Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

Like I said:

That’s why TrumpQ said this;

THE PRESIDENT: It says 100- to 200,000. Anything — it’s a lot of people, right? It’s a lot of people.​

Well, you didn’t ask the other question. What would have happened — because this is the question that I’ve been asking Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx for a long time, and they’ve been working on this for a long time.​

The question is: What would have happened if we did nothing? Because there was a group that said, “Let’s just ride it out. Let’s ride it out.” What would have happened? And that number comes in at 1.5 to 1.6 million people, up to 2.2 and even beyond. So that’s 2.2 million people would have died if we did nothing, if we just carried on our life.​

We weren't talking about washing hands and social distancing. I was asking you when Trump said to close schools and businesses down.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

We weren't talking about washing hands and social distancing. I was asking you when Trump said to close schools and businesses down.

She says “staying home” too.

Damn you are dumb. WTF do you think “staying home” means. It’s why non essential businesses and schools were closed.

Stay home You can’t social distance in a restaurant..

Your ignorance is proof of TrumpQ’s failed leadership on COVID19. TrumpQ didn’t lead you out of ignorance - you and the rest of the MAGA mob led TrumpQ to ignorance.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

She says “staying home” too.

Damn you are dumb. WTF do you think “staying home” means. It’s why non essential businesses and schools were closed.

Stay home You can’t social distance in a restaurant..

Your ignorance is proof of TrumpQ’s failed leadership on COVID19. TrumpQ didn’t lead you out of ignorance - you and the rest of the MAGA mob led TrumpQ to ignorance.

My ignorance and I'm dumb? Do you only leave the house to go to school and work? That's dumb.

I understand you're a leftist so you're a person that can never admit when they are wrong, but face it. Trump never said to close down businesses and schools. In fact during the entire time, he advised Mayors and Governors to do the opposite.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I was asking you when Trump said to close schools and businesses down.

You don’t know much about anything.


Trump issues 'Coronavirus Guidelines' for next 15 days to slow pandemic
PUBLISHED MON, MAR 16 2020 5:21 PM



WTF do you think this means?

“Avoid discretionary travel, shopping trips, and social visits.

“Work or engage in schooling from home whenever possible.”

Listen and follow the directions of your state and local authorities.

State and local authorities were shutting businesses and schools down when the guidelines came out.

IF TrumpQ did not think it was necessary to shut schools and businesses down to save two million American lives then why did he recommend following the orders that shut the economy down for 45 days when the death toll was at 4,000?

Trump never said to close down businesses and schools.

He did when he decided to start bragging that he was saving 2 million lives in a way to explain we were about to lose 200,000 of her decided to ride it out. Do nothing.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Trump never said to close down businesses and schools.

. In fact during the entire time, he advised Mayors and Governors to do the opposite.

SEE MY POST 287 you TrumpQ bedazzled moron.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

State and local authorities were shutting businesses and schools down when the guidelines came out.

My Lord you are dumb. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG!!!!! Cities and states shut down, Trump didn't shut them down!

 

[JoeB131]

You are so FOS I can smell you all the way here in Cleveland. The riots took place almost instantly. It had nothing to do with Trump, and the federal government does not control local police departments. This all took place in a commie city in a commie state. If you think it was because there was no police reform, then blame the commies, not the Republican President who had nothing to do with it. It's the same thing when DumBama was in charge. Two riots under him and again, both in commie cities in commie states.

yes, they riots happened almost immediately, because for three years previous, Trump and Sessions had dismantled all the consent decrees with police departments across the country and stopped any effort towards police reform.

Obama made police reform a national priority. Trump hugged the thug cops. That's why you had riots that lasted weeks instead of hours.

 

[basquebromance]

Nikki Haley has declared her allegiance with the Liz Cheney wing of the GOP at the height of the impeachment trial

Both Cheney and The Bimbo Warmonger want Americans to die in pointless wars throughout the Middle East.

Could you condemn them for THAT, Republicans?

I am not opposed to war, nor do i celebrate it!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

yes, they riots happened almost immediately, because for three years previous, Trump and Sessions had dismantled all the consent decrees with police departments across the country and stopped any effort towards police reform.

Obama made police reform a national priority. Trump hugged the thug cops. That's why you had riots that lasted weeks instead of hours.

You really live in your own make believe world, don't you. Well.....it's like I've always said, the best thing about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong. It's always somebody else's fault.

 

[JoeB131]

You really live in your own make believe world, don't you. Well.....it's like I've always said, the best thing about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong. It's always somebody else's fault.

Actually, it is someone else's fault if you ignore all the warnings and keep letting a problem fester.

If George Floyd was the first black man killed by a cop under dubious circumstances, then you might have had a point, the riots were an overreaction.

He wasn't. Dozens of black people were killed and no one rioted. They only rioted because they got fed up. (Being locked in their houses and unemployed due to Trump Plague and Trump Recession probably didn't help.)

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, it is someone else's fault if you ignore all the warnings and keep letting a problem fester.

If George Floyd was the first black man killed by a cop under dubious circumstances, then you might have had a point, the riots were an overreaction.

He wasn't. Dozens of black people were killed and no one rioted. They only rioted because they got fed up. (Being locked in their houses and unemployed due to Trump Plague and Trump Recession probably didn't help.)

All these police shootings took place in commie cities. It had nothing to do with Trump. Two riots under DumBama for the same reason. But the commie leaders don't do anything to them, and they know they can get away with it anytime they want. Seattle and Portland still has problems. Are you going to blame Biden for that? Of course not. You have no idea what a US President is in charge of.

Quit blaming Republicans for the bad actions of the left.

 

[JoeB131]

All these police shootings took place in commie cities. It had nothing to do with Trump. Two riots under DumBama for the same reason.

Except Obama took their complaints seriously, which is why the riots were only limited to a single city and ended after a short period of time. Pretty much Obama handled these things the right way, made police reform a priority, worked with city mayors.

Trump gassed peaceful protestors so he could go hold a bible upside down in front of a church.

Seriously, it was like the difference between being a real leader and running the presidency like a cheap game show.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Except Obama took their complaints seriously, which is why the riots were only limited to a single city and ended after a short period of time. Pretty much Obama handled these things the right way, made police reform a priority, worked with city mayors.

And that worked out real well in Minneapolis, didn't it? Took it seriously? WTF did he do? Nothing. And don't say police reform because that was during his last year in office and no city leader is going to the things he wants to do. It's not the place of a President.

Trump gassed peaceful protestors so he could go hold a bible upside down in front of a church.

Seriously, it was like the difference between being a real leader and running the presidency like a cheap game show.

He was the best President we've had since Reagan. The President is allowed to protect federal property--not city property. That was up to the commie leaders who let it go on for weeks and months on end.

 

[JoeB131]

And that worked out real well in Minneapolis, didn't it? Took it seriously? WTF did he do? Nothing. And don't say police reform because that was during his last year in office and no city leader is going to the things he wants to do. It's not the place of a President.

Actually, the Consent Decrees he entered into with major cities actually were seen as doing a lot of good. Sessions and Trump scrapped them.

This is exactly the thing a president should do, show moral leadership.

He was the best President we've had since Reagan. The President is allowed to protect federal property--not city property. That was up to the commie leaders who let it go on for weeks and months on end.

Trump is not going to be seen as a "good" president. He's already being rated as one of the worst by historians.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, the Consent Decrees he entered into with major cities actually were seen as doing a lot of good. Sessions and Trump scrapped them.

This is exactly the thing a president should do, show moral leadership.

It didn't do shit except tie the hands of police departments and police officers. First of all it was race based policing. If a police officer seen a person of color peeling his tires and driving on the sidewalk, he couldn't pull him over if he already met his quota for pulling over non-white motorists. Every pull over had to be called in and get permission by the supervisor before he could exit his police car and continue addressing the violation.

This was a serious problem for officers working in nearly all minority areas. They were limited to how many stops they could make because most everybody in that area was color. It had to balance out with stops made by police officers in mixed or white areas, because they would compile the data of the entire city to make unfounded assumptions. As a professional driver, I can tell you there are way more terrible drivers among blacks than whites.

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Trump is not going to be seen as a "good" president. He's already being rated as one of the worst by historians.

And what are historians? They are lefty socialists. Who cares what they think.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes the vote to remove Liz Cheney. 145-61 to allow her to stay in the 3rd most powerful position in the US House. Liz Cheney, who voted to impeach President Trump, gets an approval from 70% of House Republicans ? Than there was other anti-Trump vote against the alternate electors.

I have just had it with these RINO Trump haters. I am back to being an Independent again, as are tens of thousands (and growing) former Republicans. A recent Rasmussen poll shows support for new Trump PArty outvoting Republicans 23 to 17%.

Obviously, in order to defeat Democrats there can't be these 2 factions in existence. Something has got to go, and it sure isn't going to be the Trump supporters. So the anti-Trumpers by continuing on as they are, are having the Republican Party hemmoraghing members, and insuring Democrat wins in 2022.

Shock poll: Trump 'Patriot Party' would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place

Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated "very conservative voters" — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.

justthenews.com

I'm happy to see more and more blabbers fracturing the GOP. Meanwhile Stacey Abrams is expanding her voter registration effort into South Carolina and somewhat into North Carolina.

Si you're happy to see Stacy Fraudems expanding her demolition of fair & free elections. Piece of work you are.

Unlike some people, she is a veteran political activist who is incredibly effective. Blue Georgia proves it LOL

PS: **** off.

Joseph Goebbels was a veteran political activist who was incredibly effective.

You haven't helped here case.

 

[basquebromance]

oh boy.

liberals used to hate Dick Cheney, now they put his daughter on their magazine covers