If an EV is in your future, keep this issue in mind

[Crick]

Surely you know difference between infighting fuel and nuclear fusion.

What is "infighting fuel"?

 

[Flopper]

Yes of course I am well aware that for decades very small lightweight vehicles can do very well with those small batteries. But the typical auto ranges from 2500 lbs to over 4000 lbs.

Consider adding to all gas powered cars a weight from 1000 lbs to 4,000 lbs. It would be like loading 20 x 50 lbs of sand in your car to 80 bags of sand also at 50 lbs a bag.

The EV car with heaviest battery sold throughout the country is a Telsa Model S with a battery weight of 1790 lbs and with a range of 305 to 410 miles. The typically battery size in most EVs is around 1100 to 1300 lbs. For example Toyota bZ4X AWD has range of about 240 miles and a 1200 lb. battery.

 

[Robert W]

The EV car with heaviest battery sold throughout the country is a Telsa Model S with a battery weight of 1790 lbs and with a range of 305 to 410 miles. The typically battery size in most EVs is around 1100 to 1300 lbs. For example Toyota bZ4X AWD has range of about 240 miles and a 1200 lb. battery.

1,700 lbs.

The exact Tesla battery pack weight varies according to the model. The Tesla Model 3 has the lightest battery pack at around 1,060 pounds (lbs), while the Tesla Model Y has the heaviest batteries at 1,700 lbs. Most EV batteries weigh roughly 1,000 lbs, and the heavier ones are almost 2,000 lbs.Sep 15, 2023

 

[Crick]

Solid state batteries will produce a roughly 28% decrease in battery weight.

Can solid-state batteries help EVs shed weight? | Automotive World

 

[Robert W]

Solid state batteries will produce a roughly 28% decrease in battery weight.

Can solid-state batteries help EVs shed weight? | Automotive World

It is true that Weight is a major handicap. Imagine you drive a VW. And to it, you add a half ton. This takes energy. Sorry, no sale.

From his article.
"Eliminating the last traces of range anxiety will require a new kind of battery that is far more powerful and lightweight than current units, writes Siyu Huang"

I don't understand why Crick fights me but from his article this is also there.

Battery weight matters​

Lithium-ion batteries, the most common in EVs, are much heavier than comparable gas tanks. For instance, while a 15 gallon tank of gasoline weighs about 90lbs and provides about 300 miles of range for a mid-size sedan, a traditional Lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery pack has to weigh well over 1,000lbs to provide a similar range. As the vehicles become bigger, the batteries become even larger and heavier. For example, some off-road SUVs weigh 9,000lbs, with the battery accounting for 2,900lbs. This is because a gas tank can store about 17 times more usable energy per kilogram than a current-generation lithium-ion car battery. As a result, a popular gasoline pick-up gets 3.3 miles per pound of gas, while its corresponding electric version only gets 0.12 miles per pound of battery. The gas version has twice the range (460 miles) than its electric version does (230 miles) on a 150-pound gas storage system, while the EV battery is over ten times as heavy.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Avoid Ebikes -

 

[Captain Caveman]

Solid state batteries will produce a roughly 28% decrease in battery weight.

Can solid-state batteries help EVs shed weight? | Automotive World

And 28% crapper in cold weather making you 28% later for work with 28% more stress and 28% of you still vouching for EV's whilst the other 72% nows say, "What a prick I was buying that pile of shit".

 

[Captain Caveman]

I'm doing my bit for the planet, I've just unplugged a row of EV's that no one was using.

 

[Flopper]

1,700 lbs.

The exact Tesla battery pack weight varies according to the model. The Tesla Model 3 has the lightest battery pack at around 1,060 pounds (lbs), while the Tesla Model Y has the heaviest batteries at 1,700 lbs. Most EV batteries weigh roughly 1,000 lbs, and the heavier ones are almost 2,000 lbs.Sep 15, 2023

I don't see the relevance of the weight of the battery. The cost of the vehicle, range, performance, safety ratings, operating cost, and amenities are far more important than just the weight of the battery.