If all the cars in the US were EV's how much load would that put on the grid?

[Old Rocks]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

 

[Dekster]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Not that simple. Your neighborhood electrical system may not have been designed to move that many extra electrons into every home, particularly when most people would be charging simultaneously. You would have to have a practical way to keep everybody charged without overloading any part of the system. In addition, most older homes do not have garages and most household seem to have multiple cars so you would have to deal with those practicalities as well. Sure these things can be sorted in time, but they won't be sorted in the 10 years we alleged have left to turn to the tide. Hell, a lot of these problems won't be sorted in ten decades.

 

[Moonglow]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Considering there are very few true EV only vehicles, not much.

 

[Moonglow]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Not that simple. Your neighborhood electrical system may not have been designed to move that many extra electrons into every home, particularly when most people would be charging simultaneously. You would have to have a practical way to keep everybody charged without overloading any part of the system. In addition, most older homes do not have garages and most household seem to have multiple cars so you would have to deal with those practicalities as well. Sure these things can be sorted in time, but they won't be sorted in the 10 years we alleged have left to turn to the tide. Hell, a lot of these problems won't be sorted in ten decades.

How many electrons does a residential house with 3k square feet use?

 

[Moonglow]

The Ford F150 EV has a bed cover that is also a battery charger.

 

[Old Rocks]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Not that simple. Your neighborhood electrical system may not have been designed to move that many extra electrons into every home, particularly when most people would be charging simultaneously. You would have to have a practical way to keep everybody charged without overloading any part of the system. In addition, most older homes do not have garages and most household seem to have multiple cars so you would have to deal with those practicalities as well. Sure these things can be sorted in time, but they won't be sorted in the 10 years we alleged have left to turn to the tide. Hell, a lot of these problems won't be sorted in ten decades.

A couple of things here. First, we are going to have to change our grid to a distributed grid instead of a point source grid, no matter what. Already here in Portland PGE is beginning to experiment with a VPP. Second, ten decades? Really, you need to rethink that. In 1921 over much of the nations transportation was still powered by horses. There was little to no electricity in rural areas. The first phone I ever used, 1948, was hanging on a wall in a wooden box with a speaker sticking out the front, and a bell shaped ear phone with a cord hanging on the side. And today, change moves about 3 times as fast. As the VPP's prove their worth, you will see a very rapid change in the grid and how utilities use it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Meh. It's free energy, just plug it in

It's not that complicated

 

[daveman]

Forget wind and solar, except as off-grid sources for singular homes.

Molten salt reactors now, please.

 

[JoeMoma]

I've never bought a new ride, always used. I might be buying a used EV around 2030 if I live that long.

 

[Dekster]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Not that simple. Your neighborhood electrical system may not have been designed to move that many extra electrons into every home, particularly when most people would be charging simultaneously. You would have to have a practical way to keep everybody charged without overloading any part of the system. In addition, most older homes do not have garages and most household seem to have multiple cars so you would have to deal with those practicalities as well. Sure these things can be sorted in time, but they won't be sorted in the 10 years we alleged have left to turn to the tide. Hell, a lot of these problems won't be sorted in ten decades.

A couple of things here. First, we are going to have to change our grid to a distributed grid instead of a point source grid, no matter what. Already here in Portland PGE is beginning to experiment with a VPP. Second, ten decades? Really, you need to rethink that. In 1921 over much of the nations transportation was still powered by horses. There was little to no electricity in rural areas. The first phone I ever used, 1948, was hanging on a wall in a wooden box with a speaker sticking out the front, and a bell shaped ear phone with a cord hanging on the side. And today, change moves about 3 times as fast. As the VPP's prove their worth, you will see a very rapid change in the grid and how utilities use it.

Solar cells were invented before the civil war. Yes 10 decades.

 

[ding]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Can you show your math?

 

[Old Rocks]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Not that simple. Your neighborhood electrical system may not have been designed to move that many extra electrons into every home, particularly when most people would be charging simultaneously. You would have to have a practical way to keep everybody charged without overloading any part of the system. In addition, most older homes do not have garages and most household seem to have multiple cars so you would have to deal with those practicalities as well. Sure these things can be sorted in time, but they won't be sorted in the 10 years we alleged have left to turn to the tide. Hell, a lot of these problems won't be sorted in ten decades.

A couple of things here. First, we are going to have to change our grid to a distributed grid instead of a point source grid, no matter what. Already here in Portland PGE is beginning to experiment with a VPP. Second, ten decades? Really, you need to rethink that. In 1921 over much of the nations transportation was still powered by horses. There was little to no electricity in rural areas. The first phone I ever used, 1948, was hanging on a wall in a wooden box with a speaker sticking out the front, and a bell shaped ear phone with a cord hanging on the side. And today, change moves about 3 times as fast. As the VPP's prove their worth, you will see a very rapid change in the grid and how utilities use it.

Solar cells were invented before the civil war. Yes 10 decades.

And the 2000 year old Antikythera mechanism, is a basic computer. So why are you using a computer?

 

[Old Rocks]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Can you show your math?

Can you actually research a little, in this case simply view the video, before demonstrating that you post without the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

 

[ding]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Can you show your math?

Can you actually research a little, in this case simply view the video, before demonstrating that you post without the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

It's not that hard.

1. How much gasoline is consumed in the US in a year.
2. What is the equivalent KWH of that volume of gasoline.
3. How does that compare to the current amount of electricity produced in a year in the US.

Do you know any of those numbers at all?

I've done the math. We need to double our electrical generation.

 

[Old Rocks]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Can you show your math?

Can you actually research a little, in this case simply view the video, before demonstrating that you post without the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

It's not that hard.

1. How much gasoline is consumed in the US in a year.
2. What is the equivalent KWH of that volume of gasoline.
3. How does that compare to the current amount of electricity produced in a year in the US.

Do you know any of those numbers at all?

I've done the math. We need to double our electrical generation.

Your math is as lousy as your research. The numbers are done in the video.

 

[ding]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Can you show your math?

Can you actually research a little, in this case simply view the video, before demonstrating that you post without the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

It's not that hard.

1. How much gasoline is consumed in the US in a year.
2. What is the equivalent KWH of that volume of gasoline.
3. How does that compare to the current amount of electricity produced in a year in the US.

Do you know any of those numbers at all?

I've done the math. We need to double our electrical generation.

Your math is as lousy as your research. The numbers are done in the video.

Then tell me what they are. Prove you know how to do the math. I think you are full of shit.

 

[ding]

In 2020, about 123.49 billion gallons (or about 2.94 billion barrels) of finished motor gasoline were consumed in the United States.

 

[EvMetro]

About 30% more, and if we had the growth rate from 1960 to 2000, that would take about 6.5 years;

Not that simple. Your neighborhood electrical system may not have been designed to move that many extra electrons into every home, particularly when most people would be charging simultaneously. You would have to have a practical way to keep everybody charged without overloading any part of the system. In addition, most older homes do not have garages and most household seem to have multiple cars so you would have to deal with those practicalities as well. Sure these things can be sorted in time, but they won't be sorted in the 10 years we alleged have left to turn to the tide. Hell, a lot of these problems won't be sorted in ten decades.

Good point about distribution of power, assuming that the gross amount needed is available. On a broader scale, there are also geographic regions that have more renewable energy resources available than others. There are regions that are more densely populated with very little renewable resources, which means that there is a distribution problem like what you describe for the local power company that can be seen on a national level.

 

[EvMetro]

In 2020, about 123.49 billion gallons (or about 2.94 billion barrels) of finished motor gasoline were consumed in the United States.

I think there are about 33 kwh per gallon...

 

[Blues Man]

The Ford F150 EV has a bed cover that is also a battery charger.

and how does that work at night?