Idea On Voting In Federal Elections, Do You Agree?

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Has anyone suggested the flat tax scam yet?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I would suggest an IQ test to vote in federal elections, but then the New Right would lose in all 50 states.

Your side already tried that, and got away with it, for a while. You're not going to get away with it ever again.

 

[initforme]

Too Many restrictions. Epic FAIL.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It really isn't my plan. The thread was to open discussion and fish out the lefties on this forum who claim the rich pay no taxes. If they really believed that then they should go for this plan. But, they don't, because they know the rich do pay taxes. Not only do they pay taxes, they pay most of the taxes. So, I thought it was funny when one of his questions was if you get one vote for every dollar in taxes you pay. The left surely wouldn't want that.

So, you were just trolling.

Thanks!

Hope you had fun with it.

 

[Couchpotato]

I think liberals would want to jump on this because they claim the rich pay no taxes so, if that's true, then the rich wouldn't be able to vote.

That doesnt answer any of the questions I asked.

 

[Couchpotato]

You said the rich don't pay taxes and that the poor pay more taxes than the rich do. I proved you wrong.

You're getting the stupid argument that people make about the rich and taxes wrong. The super rich dont pay income tax. Which is true because many of them dont make an "income" as defined by the tax code. Or at least not much of one. People like Warren Buffet dont take a salary from their companies. That doenst mean they dont pay taxes. Elon Musk's salary was zero dollars in 2020. But he takes huge amounts in stock options. When he sells those stocks he pays huge amounts in capital gains.

Elon Musk's Annual Salary Is Less Than $40k, But Don't Lose Sleep on His Behalf

Elon Musk is not waiting for payday with baited breath.

www.payscale.com

At least have some idea what you're blathering about.

 

[Independent thinker]

Nope. It's everyday people who live from paycheck to paycheck who are affected by them

There are a lot of paycheck to paycheck people who strongly support the Republican party.

 

[Independent thinker]

That doesnt answer any of the questions I asked.

Yeah, it kind of does.

 

[Independent thinker]

You're getting the stupid argument that people make about the rich and taxes wrong. The super rich dont pay income tax. Which is true because many of them dont make an "income" as defined by the tax code. Or at least not much of one. People like Warren Buffet dont take a salary from their companies. That doenst mean they dont pay taxes. Elon Musk's salary was zero dollars in 2020. But he takes huge amounts in stock options. When he sells those stocks he pays huge amounts in capital gains.

Elon Musk's Annual Salary Is Less Than $40k, But Don't Lose Sleep on His Behalf

Elon Musk is not waiting for payday with baited breath.

www.payscale.com

At least have some idea what you're blathering about.

I do. The rich pay almost all of the income taxes collected. I even posted a link proving it. But, the left are fact deniers.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

One thing is for sure. People with no skin in the game will likely have major conflicts of interest to

A. simply vote for whoever gives them more sh*t… even if it harms others and the country.

B. simply bring down the people they are envious of and angry at for their success/power.. tear the system down because it’s not fair.

To me it’s human behavior 101.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was posting in a thread and my light bulb came on for a voting proposal, which is this:

First, you have to be 18 or older and a US citizen, as well as some other restrictions already on the books. Second, you can only vote in federal elections if you pay federal income taxes. This seems fair to me since a large part of what we are voting for is in how our tax dollars are spent, so, only those actually paying those taxes should decide how they are spent. Those paying no federal income taxes shouldn't get a say in how the tax dollars paid by tax payers is spent.

This should please leftists because they claim many of the rich don't pay federal income taxes or that the rich don't pay their fair share, leaving the voting mostly in the hands of the tax payers who are paying the taxes (the little guys), right?

Everything you posted would require a constitutional amendment. Those ideas would never pass as they are unamerican.

In 2023, I will likely not pay any federal income tax because I am retired and have a low income. Why do you propose to strip me of my right to vote? You didn't not think this through, or you are a proponent of tyranny.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I like that idea, but the democrats don't.
We're trying to get a Constitutional Convention. That would make an interesting amendment.

So you are chiming in to the conversation as proponent of tyranny?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Hey, it's your side who is wanting to tell secretaries of state elections to not have Trump on the ballot, suppressing the votes so that your side wins. When our country was first formed, only land owners were allowed to vote because they were the ones paying the taxes.

That was an injustice that was quickly corrected.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

People on the Government dole should not vote, as they will always vote for more free stuff!

People don't vote for free stuff. They may vote for people who get them free stuff, but your statement is flat-out wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That's an idea, but not a good one. In order to get more people to buy in, you have to include PAYROLL taxes (SS and Medicare). Almost half of American citizens pay NO F.I.T., and you can't disenfranchise half the country. But you could argue that if you are not working, you don't get to vote. This would disenfranchise a lot of retired people, but who cares.

The second requirement would be that you have to pass the same simple Civics test that applicants for U.S. citizenship have to pass in order to be naturalized - IN ENGLISH!.

Unconstitutional. I thought you were a lawyer.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Is that in the year you are voting or what?

In case you missed it. On their 2020 income tax returns, Trump and his wife Melania paid no federal income taxes and claimed a refund of $5.47 million, according to the report by the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation.Dec 20, 2022

Link or you lie!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Correct. If you don't pay taxes then you have no right to have a say in how taxes are spent by the people who do actually pay taxes.

You are looking like an idiot of the highest order, who does not understand American history or voting rights.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Then I cannot go along with your idea.

That totally diminishes the role of a parent being a parent. It tells people that holding a job is more important than raising your children.

That's the only reason? I have a LOT more!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

But this is your chance to stop the rich people from voting. They don't pay any taxes, right?

Why do you keep posting this, when you know it is a lie?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So you want to blame and punish the voters since WWII for the debt our politician have rung up?

How about a balanced budget Amendment and a term limit amendment for Congress Critters?

That stands about as much chance as his dumbass proposals of happening!