ICE STORM !!!

[beagle9]

For those living in disaster area's such as Nashville etc, and they are thinking that the destruction is a result of tree's not being maintained properly on the powerlines through out the year, well they could be right, and they could be wrong yet its all depending.

1. The storm was an historic event that brought with it certain ingredients that mixed together in order to create the perfect storm of destruction, and this happened along certain corridors.

2. Yes if power companies are proven to have been inept, ineffective, and greedy where dereliction of their duties are found where they weren't properly maintaining the power grid during peaceful times, then Houston we have a huge problem.

3. The way you would investigate this is to go to the actual tree crew formen and worker's in order to find out what type of contracts they were under during the normal annual maintenance cycles.

4. One might could find disgruntled employee's with the utility that might spill the beans on the utility, otherwise in order to be made aware of it's bidding processes or cost plus contracts that are either corrupt or to slim of a contract to acquire the proper amount of tree maintenance throughout the year. The utility needs to operate in ways that gives the best result in order to obtain at the least a 75 to 80% growth control over and above the distribution lines yearly.

5. The people need to pressure the utilities to take advantage of the situation in order to promote more underground services in communities that are set up right for this, otherwise in order to plan out a change from overhead to underground in those communities due to the large concentrated populations in those communities.

6. The devastation I saw in the picture's coming out of Nashville looked as if (yes) preventive care might could have avoided some of the disaster, but for the most part I don't think the damage could have been avoided no matter what the prior preventive maintenance schedules would have been.

7. Now there must be a focus to send in the military like it's a war zone in certain area's, otherwise this in order to do search and rescue, and to set up food and heat up area's for thousands in these hard stricken area's.

Any adds that might help if any experts are among us in the area's of much needed emergency service's idea's, otherwise in the way of informants that are here in these forums where a critique of the preventive service's is to be constructive and informational as to whether the preventives or responses were either lacking or either they are to be celebrated for things being run right, it would be appreciated I'm sure.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I am 45 miles east of Knoxville, TN and I got five and a half inches of snow dumped on my house yesterday. Did Nashville get anymore on top of what they got last weekend?

God bless you and everyone there always!!!

Holly

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I live in a white democrat neighborhood where the political climate overruled the actual climate. ‘Save the trees!’ they insist. Every time the wind blew, another limb cutoff a power line and caused blackouts. Eventually enough sane people complained and the utility company came out and trimmed trees.
I think a lot of the local democrat green freaks moved to places like Nashville so they can destroy those locales, too. Like swarms of locusts.

 

[beagle9]

I am 45 miles east of Knoxville, TN and I got five and a half inches of snow dumped on my house yesterday. Did Nashville get anymore on top of what they got last weekend?

God bless you and everyone there always!!!

Holly

I'm not sure, but the picture's presented on Fox showed a lot of devastation in Nashville. It's going to be a while getting that mess straightened back out.

Many contractors started using Mexican labor in order to beat down American wages, so I'm not sure what effect that may have on restoration if the Mexicans had left, so that needs to be looked at also.

Many prior or previous political undermining factors may have also played a role in the restoration time process, and hopefully the undermining doesn't result in American lives being lost, and especially amongst the elderly.

 

[beagle9]

I live in a white democrat neighborhood where the political climate overruled the actual climate. ‘Save the trees!’ they insist. Every time the wind blew, another limb cutoff a power line and caused blackouts. Eventually enough sane people complained and the utility company came out and trimmed trees.
I think a lot of the local democrat green freaks moved to places like Nashville so they can destroy those locales, too. Like swarms of locusts.

I definitely know the types you are talking about. They want their consistent power supply, but they want their tree paradise where streets and landscapes look as natural and pristine as can be. I like beautiful landscapes and beautiful tree's adding values to the landscapes, and in the past a compromise was made between property owner's and the utilities in which created beautification tree trimming techniques, and tree removals that were compliant with the standards and goals set in order to have clearance and beauty to exist hand in hand together.

Now where it all goes wrong is when the games begin to be played due to the changing of the guard within the utilities, and an expectation forms that basically says to the new guy in charge - "hey you need to cut cost and find savings". Well one would think that a system that was perfected over many year's, and that had brought about 80% or more grid safe operations that didn't need much critiques would be improved upon only.

The problem is when a new guy comes in with higher expectations in trying to cut cost, raise revenues, cut management, and worse cut corners in doing so, then look the hades out if their is no one above to monitor the new guy's managing tactics and techniques when cutting things to the bone.

This is when bad thing's show up over time, and the new manager either bails with a golden parachute or he's moved up to a higher position based upon the unrealistic numbers he created, otherwise that ultimately broke the system while leaving it for the next guy to suffer with as he tries desperately to fix it.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

I live in a white democrat neighborhood where the political climate overruled the actual climate. ‘Save the trees!’ they insist. Every time the wind blew, another limb cutoff a power line and caused blackouts. Eventually enough sane people complained and the utility company came out and trimmed trees.
I think a lot of the local democrat green freaks moved to places like Nashville so they can destroy those locales, too. Like swarms of locusts.

It really depends on what property the trees are on.
If they are on private property, the city usually makes the owners have the trees trimmed.
If they are on city property, then yes, the city is responsible.

In my area, the city trims trees every fall. And they don't do it with a sane cell in their brains either.
They trim these trees like a blind man would. Most of these trees look like something from a kids nightmares.
No respect for keeping trees looking like actual trees, while trimming them back for winter.

 

[beagle9]

It really depends on what property the trees are on.
If they are on private property, the city usually makes the owners have the trees trimmed.
If they are on city property, then yes, the city is responsible.

In my area, the city trims trees every fall. And they don't do it with a sane cell in their brains either.
They trim these trees like a blind man would. Most of these trees look like something from a kids nightmares.
No respect for keeping trees looking like actual trees, while trimming them back for winter.

Agree... That's the new push of the utilities in order to cut cost over the long haul, and to make incentive paid manager's to not take no for an answer when it comes to using tree managing arborist techniques that clear the lines in a way that destroys the city landscapes and views....... Proper trimming and removal techniques allows for the property owner's to retain a beautiful landscape and value to their properties, their cities, and their town's in a joint process that includes everyone involved.

Have you ever seen these V-d out oak tree's that put tons of unbalanced weight on the street side and homeowner side of the trim out ? Talk about an ugly nightmare from hell, and worse it creates a serious dangerous thing too. Wonder how many citizen's in Nashville had the unbalanced side come crashing down on their home during that storm ?

Then there is the lack of money to go after danger tree's on rural right of ways that endangers rural tap line or three phase lines because the tree's weren't thrown by a danger tree monitoring crew that is supposed to be dispatched for this reason.