ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

[Rawley]

You can't really interpret their ruling any other way.

Sure you can read their words

 

[JoeB131]

Sure you can read their words

I have. Pretty clear that they are allowing ICE to stop people on the street based solely on their skin color or ethnicity, and not probable cause.

 

[dudmuck]

Backatcha bucko. That's not what they ruled. Perhaps you can have someone read it to you, as there seem to be too many big words.

In September 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 6-3 order, allowed ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) to continue stopping individuals based on factors like race, effectively allowing practices previously identified as racial profiling. The ruling came in the Vasquez Perdomo v. Noem case, temporarily halting a lower court order that had prohibited stops based on ethnicity, language, location, or work type

 

[Man With A Plan]

AI Overview

In fiscal year 2025 (starting October 1, 2024), ICE has arrested a significant number of individuals with no criminal convictions. Data from June indicates that 65% of the over 204,000 people booked into detention had no criminal convictions, according to the Cato Institute. Furthermore, over 93% of those detained had no history of violent offenses, according to the American Immigration Council.

Human and legal rights are being thrown out the window by the Trump administration.

AI Overview

Based on recent news reports and statements from civil rights and human rights organizations, there are concerns and allegations regarding the Trump administration's approach to human and legal rights in 2025. These include:

• Immigration Enforcement: The administration has been accused of adopting policies that disregard due process for immigrants and asylum seekers, including expanding immigration enforcement to target foreign nationals, particularly students and researchers, attempting to end birthright citizenship via executive order, and carrying out mass deportations and raids. A former Department of Justice lawyer, Erez Reuveni, has also accused the Trump administration of ignoring court rulings and pressuring attorneys to prioritize the President's agenda over ethical obligations in deportation cases.
• • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI): The administration has moved to terminate grants related to DEI programs and prohibit federally-funded entities from engaging in such initiatives, prompting legal challenges.
  • Housing Discrimination: The Department of Housing and Urban Development is reportedly preparing to shut down investigations into housing discrimination and segregation cases.
  • Education: There are concerns about the Trump administration's dismantling of the Education Department's civil rights division and attacks on academic freedom and free expression at universities.
• Targeting of Critics:
  • Law Firms: Some law firms have been targeted with executive orders, facing sanctions like revoked security clearances and restricted access to federal buildings, for their pro bono work or associations with investigations involving President Trump.
  • Media and NGOs: There are concerns about undermining press freedom and the critical role of independent media. The administration has also cut funding to organizations supporting human rights defenders and independent journalists.

Is losing your rights to freedom and justice something that you want? If by any chance, you personally (or a member of your family) get arrested and thrown in jail (or worse, deported) without any chance of defending yourself, would you still be a Trump supporter?

By the way and for all of you that accuse these OP's as being TDS, may I remind you that Trump is doing things that no other U.S. president has done? He is changing the U.S. in ways that are against what our Constitution was built on. Do you honestly think that it should be ignored and Trump allowed to do it, without trying to change it (to the nth degree)?

The American Immigration Council says so? Are you REALLY this stupid, Lucky?

 

[Man With A Plan]

All humans (whether illegal or not) have rights. Those rights include being taken to court to plead their cases. Trump is taking those human rights away.

I am sure that if something like this was happening to you (either here, on when traveling to another country), you would want your legal rights upheld. Or am I wrong?

If I went to another country and they told me to leave? I'd leave. It's their country...not mine. I have no right to overstay my welcome.

 

[Rawley]

I have. Pretty clear that they are allowing ICE to stop people on the street based solely on their skin color or ethnicity, and not probable cause.

Quote their words that make that "pretty clear" The mind of a "progressive" is so fascinating.

 

[Rambunctious]

AI Overview

In fiscal year 2025 (starting October 1, 2024), ICE has arrested a significant number of individuals with no criminal convictions. Data from June indicates that 65% of the over 204,000 people booked into detention had no criminal convictions, according to the Cato Institute. Furthermore, over 93% of those detained had no history of violent offenses, according to the American Immigration Council.

Human and legal rights are being thrown out the window by the Trump administration.

AI Overview

Based on recent news reports and statements from civil rights and human rights organizations, there are concerns and allegations regarding the Trump administration's approach to human and legal rights in 2025. These include:

• Immigration Enforcement: The administration has been accused of adopting policies that disregard due process for immigrants and asylum seekers, including expanding immigration enforcement to target foreign nationals, particularly students and researchers, attempting to end birthright citizenship via executive order, and carrying out mass deportations and raids. A former Department of Justice lawyer, Erez Reuveni, has also accused the Trump administration of ignoring court rulings and pressuring attorneys to prioritize the President's agenda over ethical obligations in deportation cases.
• • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI): The administration has moved to terminate grants related to DEI programs and prohibit federally-funded entities from engaging in such initiatives, prompting legal challenges.
  • Housing Discrimination: The Department of Housing and Urban Development is reportedly preparing to shut down investigations into housing discrimination and segregation cases.
  • Education: There are concerns about the Trump administration's dismantling of the Education Department's civil rights division and attacks on academic freedom and free expression at universities.
• Targeting of Critics:
  • Law Firms: Some law firms have been targeted with executive orders, facing sanctions like revoked security clearances and restricted access to federal buildings, for their pro bono work or associations with investigations involving President Trump.
  • Media and NGOs: There are concerns about undermining press freedom and the critical role of independent media. The administration has also cut funding to organizations supporting human rights defenders and independent journalists.

Is losing your rights to freedom and justice something that you want? If by any chance, you personally (or a member of your family) get arrested and thrown in jail (or worse, deported) without any chance of defending yourself, would you still be a Trump supporter?

By the way and for all of you that accuse these OP's as being TDS, may I remind you that Trump is doing things that no other U.S. president has done? He is changing the U.S. in ways that are against what our Constitution was built on. Do you honestly think that it should be ignored and Trump allowed to do it, without trying to change it (to the nth degree)?

Lies... all lies...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In September 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 6-3 order, allowed ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) to continue stopping individuals based on factors like race, effectively allowing practices previously identified as racial profiling. The ruling came in the Vasquez Perdomo v. Noem case, temporarily halting a lower court order that had prohibited stops based on ethnicity, language, location, or work type

to continue stopping individuals based on factors like race,

Factors like race, not only on race.

 

[JoeB131]

If I went to another country and they told me to leave? I'd leave. It's their country...not mine. I have no right to overstay my welcome.

Ah, you hit on an interesting point. "Your welcome".

If you went to another country and they gave you a job and welcomed you into their community, would you feel "Welcomed"?

If you paid your taxes and married a local, would you feel you were part of that community?

 

[Rawley]

I have. Pretty clear that they are allowing ICE to stop people on the street based solely on their skin color or ethnicity, and not probable cause.

Dude. It was a bit of a trick question. There was no majority opinion. There were no words.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you paid your taxes and married a local, would you feel you were part of that community?

How is the illegal alien paying his taxes?

 

[JoeB131]

Dude. It was a bit of a trick question. There was no majority opinion. There were no words.

Not sure what your point was... the point was the ruling allows racial profiling, the mechanics of the ruling are irrelevant.

 

[Care4all]

If I went to another country and they told me to leave? I'd leave. It's their country...not mine. I have no right to overstay my welcome.

Even if your wife and kids or mother and father or brothers and sisters lived there....you'd just get up and leave with no trying to see if they would let you stay? Or if it were the only place you had ever lived since you were three years old and only knew English fluently, you would just pick up and leave, eh?

I guess women are from Venus and men are from Mars, cuz I just can't see things so cut and dry as you lay out about simply just leaving, if not wanted. I can't help but see the individual's bigger picture, if there is one, and empathize.... I simply can't think your way...I wasn't made to, by God imo...it's just not in my female (nurturing) nature.

 

[JoeB131]

How is the illegal alien paying his taxes?

Don't be dense.

 

[Mac-7]

ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!​

Illegal aliens are not innocent people

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don't be dense.

Don't avoid the question.

 

[Care4all]

The majority of those being reported are not criminals. They have to be charged with an illegal entry misdemeanor, or an illegal reentry felony....and be convicted for it, to be a criminal.

Under immigration law for immediate deportation without due process, it has to be a civil offense. If it was a criminal offense then every person being deported would be required to be given their due process in court for illegal entry or illegal reentry, and been convicted, before any deportation.

They kept crossing the border outside of legal ports of entry a civil offense, so that they can deport them, without due process...if it was criminal, they'd have to be given their due process in court, and they would be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law....if poor we would have to supply attorneys to represent them, we would have to give them their Miranda rights, they would also be offered bail and a whole bunch if other things under our laws and constitution, but civil offenses don't require all of those protections against the big and powerful government.

In 1898 the Supreme Court ruled that deportation was not a punishment...because of that, deportation was not a criminal punishment, and without it being a criminal punishment, it made it a civil offence....or some convoluted B.S. like that...

The link to a PDF file on this and other very interesting stuff is in the link below...they explain it much better than me. Worth the read imo.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/aic_twosystemsofjustice.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjYsYD5qpCQAxV4tokEHRWjHxsQFnoECAoQBg&usg=AOvVaw2UErAlOmlMRlpoBjUZ5VK7

 

[JoeB131]

Don't avoid the question.

It's like asking if water is wet. Immigrants pay taxes, even the undocumented ones.

 

[JoeB131]

ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!​

Illegal aliens are not innocent people

Yeah, they're too brown for you, dammit!

 

[Man With A Plan]

Even if your wife and kids or mother and father or brothers and sisters lived there....you'd just get up and leave with no trying to see if they would let you stay? Or if it were the only place you had ever lived since you were three years old and only knew English fluently, you would just pick up and leave, eh?

I guess women are from Venus and men are from Mars, cuz I just can't see things so cut and dry as you lay out about simply just leaving, if not wanted. I can't help but see the individual's bigger picture, if there is one, and empathize.... I simply can't think your way...I wasn't made to, by God imo...it's just not in my female (nurturing) nature.

I don't move to countries illegally. Never have...never will.