I will not Bow!

[montelatici]

And as you have been told the state was Britain under the mandate, it could not have been Palestine as it had no governing body of its own


The various groups that lived in the area that did not yet have any government. These groups included Jews, Christians, arab nomads and itinerant arab workers.

As explained the only outside influence on the arabs was that of the arab league.

They had the chance of national independence and sovereignty and turned it down until 1988 when they saw they were losing everything.

And if they had no homes then were do they go

Which they have and still they attack their neighbours, showing that they are not capable of any form of self determination.

And as you have been told the state was Britain under the mandate,

Where did you get that lie?

From the LoN minutes, unless you can produce irrefutable evidence that the arab muslims had a state of their own with a ruling government and a head of state at the time the mandate came into place ?

So simple to use the LIES of an ISLAMONAZI until you are asked to substantiate his LIES from another source. Try reading the San Remo Conference notes that explain what is actually meant, same with the rest of the treaties you abuse.

Provide text and links to the text that supports your position. Your position is based on propaganda and there is no text that supports your position, hence you just spout nonsense with nothing to back it up. I post fact and back it up with source material.

As far as the San Remo Conference "Notes", I think that you should read them, as I doubt you have ever read them. This is in a.) of the Notes. (And this is repeated in the Mandate itself.)

"(a) To accept the terms of the Mandates Article as given below with reference to Palestine, on the understanding that there was inserted in the proces-verbal an undertaking by the Mandatory Power that this would not involve the surrender of the rights hitherto enjoyed by the non-Jewish communities"

 

[montelatici]

And as you have been told the state was Britain under the mandate, it could not have been Palestine as it had no governing body of its own


The various groups that lived in the area that did not yet have any government. These groups included Jews, Christians, arab nomads and itinerant arab workers.

As explained the only outside influence on the arabs was that of the arab league.

They had the chance of national independence and sovereignty and turned it down until 1988 when they saw they were losing everything.

And if they had no homes then were do they go

Which they have and still they attack their neighbours, showing that they are not capable of any form of self determination.

Actually, there was a Government and according to the 1922 British census resident Muslims and Christians were over 80% and Jews about 12% of the population.

"The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]
The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality. The division into religious groups was 590,390 Muslims, 83,694 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 808 Sikhs, 265 Bahais, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.[2]"

1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the 1931 British census the overall population increased 36.8% but the Jewish population increased by 108.4% through immigration. But Muslims and Christians remained close to 80% of the population as late as 1931.

"The total population reported was 1,035,821 (1,033,314 excluding the numbers of H.M. Forces)[2] – an increase of 36.8% since 1922, of which the Jewish population increased by 108.4%.[1]

The population was divided by religion as follows: 759,717 Muslims, 174,610 Jews, 91,398 Christians, 9,148 Druzes, 350 Bahais, 182 Samaritans, and 421 "no religion".[3]

1931 census of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suffice it to say, you are full of it and are just spewing Zionist propaganda which is not supported by facts and is in fact opposite of what the facts are.


It was never intended that the Jews establish a state for Jews in Palestine as the British White Paper of 1939 clearly states. You people have brainwashed and refuse to read source material so it is no surprise you rarely know what you are talking about. From the 1939 White Paper:

"It has been urged that the expression "a national home for the Jewish people" offered a prospect that Palestine might in due course become a Jewish State or Commonwealth. His Majesty's Government do not wish to contest the view, which was expressed by the Royal Commission, that the Zionist leaders at the time of the issue of the Balfour Declaration recognised that an ultimate Jewish State was not precluded by the terms of the Declaration. But, with the Royal Commission, His Majesty's Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. That Palestine was not to be converted into a Jewish State might be held to be implied in the passage from the Command Paper of 1922 which reads as follows

"Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that `Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English.' His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated .... the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the (Balfour) Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded IN PALESTINE."

But this statement has not removed doubts, and His Majesty's Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.......The objective of His Majesty's Government is the establishment within 10 years of an independent Palestine State in such treaty relations with the United Kingdom as will provide satisfactorily for the commercial and strategic requirements of both countries in the future. The proposal for the establishment of the independent State would involve consultation with the Council of the League of Nations with a view to the termination of the Mandate.

The independent State should be one in which Arabs and Jews share government in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community are safeguarded."


The Avalon Project : British White Paper of 1939

I would hope that this would shut you no nothings up with respect to the reason why the Christians and Muslims of Palestine believe they were betrayed and continue to fight so fervently for the return of their homes.

And if you read your own link it tells you it is the British government
The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]


All well and good but an increase of 108% of 1,000 is only 1,008, an increase of 36% of 760,000 is 273,498 so you do the real sums.


No I am posting from reliable unbiased sources unlike your ISLAMONAZI sources that are full of LIES


The white paper was not LAW just a proposal that did not get past its first reading, so was shelved. And the LoN mandate over ruled anything the British government tried to put in place. So maybe you should try taking heed of your own words for once. The MANDATE stated that the Jews were to have a homeland in Palestine, the British government could not change the rules to suit their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATREDS.

I am posting from the Avalon Project at Yale, you are posting propaganda from Zionist propaganda sites. Why don't you grow up.

The Mandate did not say homeland it said a "National Home" IN Palestine. The white paper was written to make clear what the Mandate intended, and that was that there would be no exclusively Jewish state in Palestine and that an "independent State should be one in which Arabs and Jews share government in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community are safeguarded."

 

[P F Tinmore]

And as you have been told the state was Britain under the mandate, it could not have been Palestine as it had no governing body of its own


The various groups that lived in the area that did not yet have any government. These groups included Jews, Christians, arab nomads and itinerant arab workers.

As explained the only outside influence on the arabs was that of the arab league.

They had the chance of national independence and sovereignty and turned it down until 1988 when they saw they were losing everything.

And if they had no homes then were do they go

Which they have and still they attack their neighbours, showing that they are not capable of any form of self determination.

And as you have been told the state was Britain under the mandate,

Where did you get that lie?

From the LoN minutes, unless you can produce irrefutable evidence that the arab muslims had a state of their own with a ruling government and a head of state at the time the mandate came into place ?

So simple to use the LIES of an ISLAMONAZI until you are asked to substantiate his LIES from another source. Try reading the San Remo Conference notes that explain what is actually meant, same with the rest of the treaties you abuse.

Nice parry.

When did the mandate become part of Britain?

 

[SAYIT]

montelatici; et al,

I guess I'm having a senior moment.


(COMMENT)

Who decides what is an "equitable agreement?" The key is reasonable compromise.

(COMMENT)

"The establishment of a sovereign state for non-Jews" was set forth by the General Assembly adoption of Resolution 181(II) in Part II Section "A" describing the "Arab State." However this was rejected by the Arab Higher Committee (AHC) at the direction of the Arab League.

Maybe I'm confused.

It seems to me that it is the Palestinians that "want control over the whole of Palestine."

Most Respectfully,
R

​

What rights do these people have?...

Compensation for land seized.

What compromises should they make?

Take the money, once it's offered, sign a quit-claim, and leave.

Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on, Arafat slinked away from the negotiations and started his 2nd and final Intifada.
How did all that work out for those hapless "refugees?"

 

[Kondor3]

The United States will not allow Muslim Militants to dictate to it, whom we may be friends and allies with, and whom we may not.

"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute." - a time-honored American mindset, suitable as a metaphor and rally-point baseline, for our purposes here.

The Palestinians did not commit the atrocities of 9-11, although, later, the perpetrator-organization claimed to be acting in support of their plight.

Al-Qaeda did this, citing several reasons, including a US military presence in Saudi Arabia, not just an action in support of the Palestinian cause.

But, indeed, Muslim Militants, committed this atrocity upon innocent Americans.

They knocked over two of our buildings.

We knocked over two of their countries.

They killed 3,000 of ours.

We killed 300,000 of theirs.

With a payback and kill-ratio like that, I seriously doubt that they'll be undertaking such action again, any time soon, sponsored by any Muslim government.

Any such government will understand all too well the price to be paid, should they be foolish enough to attempt such an attack again.

Next time, we may not be as merciful as we were last time - in contrast to what we could have done.

They know this.

The terrorists of 9-11, et al, will not be allowed to win... not even posthumously.

No giving-in to attempts at intimidation and steering our foreign policy... no surrender.

Then the Palestinians have lost and will never have any peace.

The Palestinians have already surrendered by being so weak and incapable of doing anything to hurt Israel, and the sooner they realize that they've already given up, the faster they can all move on with their lives and live in peace and prosper.

Hey buddy...

Palestinians surely didn't realize their "defeat" fast enough to save us both, poor NYC skyscrappers!!

 

[Kondor3]

​

What rights do these people have?...

Compensation for land seized.

What compromises should they make?

Take the money, once it's offered, sign a quit-claim, and leave.

Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on, Arafat slinked away from the negotiations and started his 2nd and final Intifada.
How did all that work out for those hapless "refugees?"

Nobody ever accused the Palestinians of being the brightest crayons in the box.

 

[José]

Originally posted by SAYIT
Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on.

How clueless a human being have to be to seriously believe and have the courage to post the statement in bold on an Internet forum?

At lest 92% of the palestinian people consider the ROR a non-negotiable point in any peace agreement.

God knows there is no shortage of "personal opinions" regarding this land conflict, but this is not an opinion, this is a fact that is not even open for debate.

Please, notice that even Kondor in his reply chose to ignore the main message of the post (it was Arafat's fault) and correctly put the "blame" where it rightly belong: on the shoulders of the palestinian people.

Sayit's insane statement, completely divorced from reality was too much cheap zionist propaganda EVEN FOR A FANATICAL ZIONIST LIKE KONDOR.

 

[MrMax]

Then the Palestinians have lost and will never have any peace.

The Palestinians have already surrendered by being so weak and incapable of doing anything to hurt Israel, and the sooner they realize that they've already given up, the faster they can all move on with their lives and live in peace and prosper.

Hey buddy...

Palestinians surely didn't realize their "defeat" fast enough to save us both, poor NYC skyscrappers!!

Actually, no Palestinian was involved in 9/11. Please try again.

 

[Kondor3]

Originally posted by SAYIT
Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on.

How clueless a human being have to be to seriously believe and have the courage to post the statement in bold on an Internet forum?

At lest 92% of the palestinian people consider the ROR a non-negotiable point in any peace agreement.

God knows there is no shortage of "personal opinions" regarding this land conflict, but this is not an opinion, this is a fact that is not even open for debate.

Please, notice that even Kondor in his reply chose to ignore the main message of the post (it was Arafat's fault) and correctly put the "blame" where it rightly belong: on the shoulders of the palestinian people.

Sayit's insane statement, completely divorced from reality was too much cheap zionist propaganda EVEN FOR A FANATICAL ZIONIST LIKE KONDOR.

Thank you... thank you... I'll be here all week... two shows a day... come again!

 

[aris2chat]

Originally posted by aris2chat
Followed by arab massacres, sieges and other attacks on jews in the mandate.

During the 20's, 30's and 40's the palestinian people would love to give a humane treatment to all those Russians, Ukrainians and Poles with 0 right to live in Palestine who were destroying their homeland's ethnic make-up without their consent, turning them into a minority in their own land.

They would love to be in charge of their own homeland so they could organize an immigration agency that would deport those illegal immigrants in a humane fashion just like the US government does with hundreds of thousands of haitians, mexicans etc, etc... every single day arriving in the US by boat, plane, vehicles, etc, etc...

Unfortunately, in case you haven't noticed, the palestinian people were at the time under the boot of a foreign military occupation that put them down everytime they tried to exercise the same right other peoples around the world like the american people take for granted.

The right to preserve the ethnic make-up of one's own homeland, the right to exercise sovereignty over their homeland.

The fault for the palestinian attacks on the european invaders living in their land without their consent falls squarely on the foreign power's usurpation (through brute force) of their right to govern their own homeland.

And history proved them right....

The invaders did split their homeland and have been murdering them when they try to move about their homeland ever since.

The mandate was going to give the palestinians a homeland. There had never been a palestinian state. It had always been under occupation since the time of Rome.

At the end of WWI there less than 500,000 people in all of the mandate. During Roman times there more than a million people in Jerusalem alone. There was more than enough room for an arab state and a jewish state. More arabs than jews migrated into the mandate. British put restrictions on the number of jews allowed to enter, but not on the arabs coming to seek work.
Those who had been in the mandate for two years or more were classified as palestinian when the mandate ended. Almost half the population of arab came from other countries, not native to the land. Most of those became refugees and supported by the UN.

Arab state force their jewish population out and those refugees were absorbed into Israel, their historic and religious homeland. More jewish refugees than the arabs that left, at arab insistence. Israel, before and after the mandate ended, wanted the arabs to stay. Arabs would not let them return to Israel.

 

[toastman]

Originally posted by SAYIT
Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on.

How clueless a human being have to be to seriously believe and have the courage to post the statement in bold on an Internet forum?

At lest 92% of the palestinian people consider the ROR a non-negotiable point in any peace agreement.

God knows there is no shortage of "personal opinions" regarding this land conflict, but this is not an opinion, this is a fact that is not even open for debate.

Please, notice that even Kondor in his reply chose to ignore the main message of the post (it was Arafat's fault) and correctly put the "blame" where it rightly belong: on the shoulders of the palestinian people.

Sayit's insane statement, completely divorced from reality was too much cheap zionist propaganda EVEN FOR A FANATICAL ZIONIST LIKE KONDOR.

So anyone who supports Israel is a fanatical Zionist LOL.
Speaking of bolding extremely ridiculous comments LOL !

 

[toastman]

I would love Jose to explain how European Jews who immigrated to Mandatory Palestine were invaders.
Specially considering the fact that the British Mandate encouraged immigration
Specially considering the fact that the British FACILITATED Jewish immigration

But like I've said many times, if pro Palestinians abandon their 'Jewish invader' crap, the. Their whole Palestinian propaganda agenda is finished.

 

[Phoenall]

Actually, there was a Government and according to the 1922 British census resident Muslims and Christians were over 80% and Jews about 12% of the population.

"The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]
The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality. The division into religious groups was 590,390 Muslims, 83,694 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 808 Sikhs, 265 Bahais, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.[2]"

1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the 1931 British census the overall population increased 36.8% but the Jewish population increased by 108.4% through immigration. But Muslims and Christians remained close to 80% of the population as late as 1931.

"The total population reported was 1,035,821 (1,033,314 excluding the numbers of H.M. Forces)[2] – an increase of 36.8% since 1922, of which the Jewish population increased by 108.4%.[1]

The population was divided by religion as follows: 759,717 Muslims, 174,610 Jews, 91,398 Christians, 9,148 Druzes, 350 Bahais, 182 Samaritans, and 421 "no religion".[3]

1931 census of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suffice it to say, you are full of it and are just spewing Zionist propaganda which is not supported by facts and is in fact opposite of what the facts are.


It was never intended that the Jews establish a state for Jews in Palestine as the British White Paper of 1939 clearly states. You people have brainwashed and refuse to read source material so it is no surprise you rarely know what you are talking about. From the 1939 White Paper:

"It has been urged that the expression "a national home for the Jewish people" offered a prospect that Palestine might in due course become a Jewish State or Commonwealth. His Majesty's Government do not wish to contest the view, which was expressed by the Royal Commission, that the Zionist leaders at the time of the issue of the Balfour Declaration recognised that an ultimate Jewish State was not precluded by the terms of the Declaration. But, with the Royal Commission, His Majesty's Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. That Palestine was not to be converted into a Jewish State might be held to be implied in the passage from the Command Paper of 1922 which reads as follows

"Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that `Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English.' His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated .... the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the (Balfour) Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded IN PALESTINE."

But this statement has not removed doubts, and His Majesty's Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.......The objective of His Majesty's Government is the establishment within 10 years of an independent Palestine State in such treaty relations with the United Kingdom as will provide satisfactorily for the commercial and strategic requirements of both countries in the future. The proposal for the establishment of the independent State would involve consultation with the Council of the League of Nations with a view to the termination of the Mandate.

The independent State should be one in which Arabs and Jews share government in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community are safeguarded."


The Avalon Project : British White Paper of 1939

I would hope that this would shut you no nothings up with respect to the reason why the Christians and Muslims of Palestine believe they were betrayed and continue to fight so fervently for the return of their homes.

And if you read your own link it tells you it is the British government
The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]


All well and good but an increase of 108% of 1,000 is only 1,008, an increase of 36% of 760,000 is 273,498 so you do the real sums.


No I am posting from reliable unbiased sources unlike your ISLAMONAZI sources that are full of LIES


The white paper was not LAW just a proposal that did not get past its first reading, so was shelved. And the LoN mandate over ruled anything the British government tried to put in place. So maybe you should try taking heed of your own words for once. The MANDATE stated that the Jews were to have a homeland in Palestine, the British government could not change the rules to suit their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATREDS.

The White Paper was not a proposal. It was a clarification. It merely defined the purpose of the mandate.

The white paper did no such thing, as the British government could not over rule the Mandate. The mandate had already stated that the remit was to give the Jews a home in Palestine, and at the time of the remit Palestine included trans Jordan and parts of Syria and Lebanon. And the maps show that the land allocated was from the sea to the river.

 

[Kondor3]

Originally posted by SAYIT
Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on.

How clueless a human being have to be to seriously believe and have the courage to post the statement in bold on an Internet forum?

At lest 92% of the palestinian people consider the ROR a non-negotiable point in any peace agreement.

God knows there is no shortage of "personal opinions" regarding this land conflict, but this is not an opinion, this is a fact that is not even open for debate.

Please, notice that even Kondor in his reply chose to ignore the main message of the post (it was Arafat's fault) and correctly put the "blame" where it rightly belong: on the shoulders of the palestinian people.

Sayit's insane statement, completely divorced from reality was too much cheap zionist propaganda EVEN FOR A FANATICAL ZIONIST LIKE KONDOR.

So anyone who supports Israel is a fanatical Zionist LOL. Speaking of bolding extremely ridiculous comments LOL !

It's OK... he doesn't know any better, in this narrow context, and it probably wouldn't make much difference, even if he did... mox nix... machts nicht... means nothing... no big deal.

 

[aris2chat]

Originally posted by SAYIT
Compensation ($30 bil) was offered 14 years ago and despite the willingness of the vast majority of Palestinians to accept it and move on.

How clueless a human being have to be to seriously believe and have the courage to post the statement in bold on an Internet forum?

At lest 92% of the palestinian people consider the ROR a non-negotiable point in any peace agreement.

God knows there is no shortage of "personal opinions" regarding this land conflict, but this is not an opinion, this is a fact that is not even open for debate.

Please, notice that even Kondor in his reply chose to ignore the main message of the post (it was Arafat's fault) and correctly put the "blame" where it rightly belong: on the shoulders of the palestinian people.

Sayit's insane statement, completely divorced from reality was too much cheap zionist propaganda EVEN FOR A FANATICAL ZIONIST LIKE KONDOR.

Obviously you do not have all the facts.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 393, The United Nations General Assembly, December 2, 1950. Accessed Nov 24, 2012.

Most palestinian refugees would rather be compensated than to go to Israel. They would rather resettle elsewhere in the world than go the PA either.

The generation that left, for the most part are gone. Palestinian today have no connection to Israel or palestine.

There was never a need for the palestinians to be refugees. The arabs create them and refuse to take responsibility to resettle them. Lebanon is too small but other arab state could easily have absorbed the palestinians.

The "tragedy" was of arab making.

 

[Phoenall]

Where did you get that lie?

From the LoN minutes, unless you can produce irrefutable evidence that the arab muslims had a state of their own with a ruling government and a head of state at the time the mandate came into place ?

So simple to use the LIES of an ISLAMONAZI until you are asked to substantiate his LIES from another source. Try reading the San Remo Conference notes that explain what is actually meant, same with the rest of the treaties you abuse.

Provide text and links to the text that supports your position. Your position is based on propaganda and there is no text that supports your position, hence you just spout nonsense with nothing to back it up. I post fact and back it up with source material.

As far as the San Remo Conference "Notes", I think that you should read them, as I doubt you have ever read them. This is in a.) of the Notes. (And this is repeated in the Mandate itself.)

"(a) To accept the terms of the Mandates Article as given below with reference to Palestine, on the understanding that there was inserted in the proces-verbal an undertaking by the Mandatory Power that this would not involve the surrender of the rights hitherto enjoyed by the non-Jewish communities"

Why do you ISLAMONAZI's always leave out the next part................ or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country


Game, Set and match to the unbiased I do believe

 

[P F Tinmore]

And if you read your own link it tells you it is the British government
The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]


All well and good but an increase of 108% of 1,000 is only 1,008, an increase of 36% of 760,000 is 273,498 so you do the real sums.


No I am posting from reliable unbiased sources unlike your ISLAMONAZI sources that are full of LIES


The white paper was not LAW just a proposal that did not get past its first reading, so was shelved. And the LoN mandate over ruled anything the British government tried to put in place. So maybe you should try taking heed of your own words for once. The MANDATE stated that the Jews were to have a homeland in Palestine, the British government could not change the rules to suit their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATREDS.

The White Paper was not a proposal. It was a clarification. It merely defined the purpose of the mandate.

The white paper did no such thing, as the British government could not over rule the Mandate. The mandate had already stated that the remit was to give the Jews a home in Palestine, and at the time of the remit Palestine included trans Jordan and parts of Syria and Lebanon. And the maps show that the land allocated was from the sea to the river.

Look at the mandate charter and the League of Nations Covenant.

The 1939 White Paper says the same thing.

 

[Phoenall]

Actually, there was a Government and according to the 1922 British census resident Muslims and Christians were over 80% and Jews about 12% of the population.

"The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]
The reported population was 757,182, including the military and persons of foreign nationality. The division into religious groups was 590,390 Muslims, 83,694 Jews, 73,024 Christians, 7,028 Druze, 808 Sikhs, 265 Bahais, 156 Metawalis, and 163 Samaritans.[2]"

1922 census of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the 1931 British census the overall population increased 36.8% but the Jewish population increased by 108.4% through immigration. But Muslims and Christians remained close to 80% of the population as late as 1931.

"The total population reported was 1,035,821 (1,033,314 excluding the numbers of H.M. Forces)[2] – an increase of 36.8% since 1922, of which the Jewish population increased by 108.4%.[1]

The population was divided by religion as follows: 759,717 Muslims, 174,610 Jews, 91,398 Christians, 9,148 Druzes, 350 Bahais, 182 Samaritans, and 421 "no religion".[3]

1931 census of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Suffice it to say, you are full of it and are just spewing Zionist propaganda which is not supported by facts and is in fact opposite of what the facts are.


It was never intended that the Jews establish a state for Jews in Palestine as the British White Paper of 1939 clearly states. You people have brainwashed and refuse to read source material so it is no surprise you rarely know what you are talking about. From the 1939 White Paper:

"It has been urged that the expression "a national home for the Jewish people" offered a prospect that Palestine might in due course become a Jewish State or Commonwealth. His Majesty's Government do not wish to contest the view, which was expressed by the Royal Commission, that the Zionist leaders at the time of the issue of the Balfour Declaration recognised that an ultimate Jewish State was not precluded by the terms of the Declaration. But, with the Royal Commission, His Majesty's Government believe that the framers of the Mandate in which the Balfour Declaration was embodied could not have intended that Palestine should be converted into a Jewish State against the will of the Arab population of the country. That Palestine was not to be converted into a Jewish State might be held to be implied in the passage from the Command Paper of 1922 which reads as follows

"Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that `Palestine is to become as Jewish as England is English.' His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated .... the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the (Balfour) Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded IN PALESTINE."

But this statement has not removed doubts, and His Majesty's Government therefore now declare unequivocally that it is not part of their policy that Palestine should become a Jewish State. They would indeed regard it as contrary to their obligations to the Arabs under the Mandate, as well as to the assurances which have been given to the Arab people in the past, that the Arab population of Palestine should be made the subjects of a Jewish State against their will.......The objective of His Majesty's Government is the establishment within 10 years of an independent Palestine State in such treaty relations with the United Kingdom as will provide satisfactorily for the commercial and strategic requirements of both countries in the future. The proposal for the establishment of the independent State would involve consultation with the Council of the League of Nations with a view to the termination of the Mandate.

The independent State should be one in which Arabs and Jews share government in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community are safeguarded."


The Avalon Project : British White Paper of 1939

I would hope that this would shut you no nothings up with respect to the reason why the Christians and Muslims of Palestine believe they were betrayed and continue to fight so fervently for the return of their homes.

And if you read your own link it tells you it is the British government
The 1922 census of Palestine was the first census carried out by the authorities of the British Mandate of Palestine, on 23 October 1922.[1]


All well and good but an increase of 108% of 1,000 is only 1,008, an increase of 36% of 760,000 is 273,498 so you do the real sums.


No I am posting from reliable unbiased sources unlike your ISLAMONAZI sources that are full of LIES


The white paper was not LAW just a proposal that did not get past its first reading, so was shelved. And the LoN mandate over ruled anything the British government tried to put in place. So maybe you should try taking heed of your own words for once. The MANDATE stated that the Jews were to have a homeland in Palestine, the British government could not change the rules to suit their ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATREDS.

I am posting from the Avalon Project at Yale, you are posting propaganda from Zionist propaganda sites. Why don't you grow up.

The Mandate did not say homeland it said a "National Home" IN Palestine. The white paper was written to make clear what the Mandate intended, and that was that there would be no exclusively Jewish state in Palestine and that an "independent State should be one in which Arabs and Jews share government in such a way as to ensure that the essential interests of each community are safeguarded."

What you are quoting was not International Law or the Mandate just the white paper from 1939. It had no basis in law being nothing more than an authoritative report or guide helping readers to understand an issue, solve a problem, or make a decision. Or in other words a grey literature. As I said it did not even make its first reading


As an aside were was the "National Home" of the arab muslims supposed to be according to the Mandate ?

 

[Kondor3]

"National Home" in this context = intent to carve-out a Nation.

The Jews carved-out theirs.

The Palestinians, slow-on-the-draw as always, took a pass on the opportunity to carve-out one of their own.

And now their children and grandchildren are paying the price for that foolishness.

Not to mention, letting their Arab neighbors annex them, and dismantle what little apparatus there was, for Palestinian self-governance at the time.

No guts, no glory.

No brains, no country.

Nature has de-selected them.

 

[Phoenall]

Where did you get that lie?

From the LoN minutes, unless you can produce irrefutable evidence that the arab muslims had a state of their own with a ruling government and a head of state at the time the mandate came into place ?

So simple to use the LIES of an ISLAMONAZI until you are asked to substantiate his LIES from another source. Try reading the San Remo Conference notes that explain what is actually meant, same with the rest of the treaties you abuse.

Nice parry.

When did the mandate become part of Britain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_instrument)

The British Mandate for Palestine, or simply the Mandate for Palestine, was a legal commission for the administration of the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros. The draft of the Mandate was formally confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations on 24 July 1922, amended via the 16 September 1922 Transjordan memorandum[1][2] and which came into effect on 29 September 1923[1] following the ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne.[3][4] The mandate ended at midnight on 14 May 1948.

The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."[5] The mandate document formalised the division of the British protectorates - Palestine, to include a national home for the Jewish people, under direct British rule, and Transjordan, an Emirate governed semi-autonomously from Britain under the rule of the Hashemite family


Cant see any mention of a Palestinian nation can you ?