I will not Bow!

[pbel]

America is in it because of the US Middle Eastern Oil Hegemony and not Israel.

Get your facts straight.

The US has been trying to get Iran working with them since before the state of Israel. The Sha was instilled long before 1948.

As soon as they got a stranglehold on Iran, they let go of Israel as an inducement to the Iranians.

America is nearly a net exporter of oil...Only the armaments by the warmongers make money...

The warmongers are the ones you support

I support a just peace to the 67 green line with a shared Jerusalem...If the US doesn't get that, she should leave the ME, we have no need to be there. It brings us terrorism because we arm Israel to the hilt.

 

[RoccoR]

pbel, et al,

Warmonger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmonger
Warmonger is a pejorative term that is used to describe someone who is eager to encourage people or a nation to go to war.

America is nearly a net exporter of oil...Only the armaments by the warmongers make money...

(COMMENT)

I think you've made a mistake.

• It is the Arab-Palestinian that threatened "genocide."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declared "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine" - "with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares, "The Palestinian resistance may find at a certain stage that the path of martyrdom operations is more effective, and it must not rule out the use of any method that can inflict pain on the enemy and deter it. Friendly nations and countries must support the action of the resistance and must condemn the occupation.

If there is a "Warmonger" it is likely to be the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[pbel]

pbel, et al,

Warmonger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmonger
Warmonger is a pejorative term that is used to describe someone who is eager to encourage people or a nation to go to war.

America is nearly a net exporter of oil...Only the armaments by the warmongers make money...

(COMMENT)

I think you've made a mistake.

• It is the Arab-Palestinian that threatened "genocide."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declared "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine" - "with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares, "The Palestinian resistance may find at a certain stage that the path of martyrdom operations is more effective, and it must not rule out the use of any method that can inflict pain on the enemy and deter it. Friendly nations and countries must support the action of the resistance and must condemn the occupation.

If there is a "Warmonger" it is likely to be the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, I know your only half Sicilian, so you probably don't understand the ferocity of people defending their homes or kissing Western Imperialism's ass.

Had the Zionists decided to conquer Sicily, then they would have felt ferocity.

Ferocity in defending your homeland from European invaders is an old successful and noble endeavor for the Arabs...These are their homes,

Capisce?

 

[toastman]

America is nearly a net exporter of oil...Only the armaments by the warmongers make money...

The warmongers are the ones you support

I support a just peace to the 67 green line with a shared Jerusalem...If the US doesn't get that, she should leave the ME, we have no need to be there. It brings us terrorism because we arm Israel to the hilt.

Again , you are thinking that the US is going to succumb to the pressure of terrorists by ceasing to be Israel Ally. It doesnt work like that.
If the US wants to be in the ME, then they are going to remain there, and if you think that supporting Israel is the only reason, you are sorely mistaken

 

[toastman]

pbel, et al,

Warmonger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmonger
Warmonger is a pejorative term that is used to describe someone who is eager to encourage people or a nation to go to war.

America is nearly a net exporter of oil...Only the armaments by the warmongers make money...

(COMMENT)

I think you've made a mistake.

• It is the Arab-Palestinian that threatened "genocide."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declared "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine" - "with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares, "The Palestinian resistance may find at a certain stage that the path of martyrdom operations is more effective, and it must not rule out the use of any method that can inflict pain on the enemy and deter it. Friendly nations and countries must support the action of the resistance and must condemn the occupation.

If there is a "Warmonger" it is likely to be the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, I know your only half Sicilian, so you probably don't understand the ferocity of people defending their homes or kissing Western Imperialism's ass.

Had the Zionists decided to conquer Sicily, then they would have felt ferocity.

Ferocity in defending your homeland from European invaders is an old successful and noble endeavor for the Arabs...These are their homes,

Capisce?

I fail to see how what the PAlestinians are doing falls under the category of defending.
And once again, the European Jews were not invaders , as they were invited to the region by the British who also fascilitated their immigration. You know, the same British who ruled the land and had the authority to make these decisions.

Youve been reading too many of Tinmores posts

 

[pbel]

pbel, et al,

Warmonger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmonger
Warmonger is a pejorative term that is used to describe someone who is eager to encourage people or a nation to go to war.


(COMMENT)

I think you've made a mistake.

• It is the Arab-Palestinian that threatened "genocide."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declared "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares "Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine" - "with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate."
• It is the Arab-Palestinian that declares, "The Palestinian resistance may find at a certain stage that the path of martyrdom operations is more effective, and it must not rule out the use of any method that can inflict pain on the enemy and deter it. Friendly nations and countries must support the action of the resistance and must condemn the occupation.

If there is a "Warmonger" it is likely to be the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, I know your only half Sicilian, so you probably don't understand the ferocity of people defending their homes or kissing Western Imperialism's ass.

Had the Zionists decided to conquer Sicily, then they would have felt ferocity.

Ferocity in defending your homeland from European invaders is an old successful and noble endeavor for the Arabs...These are their homes,

Capisce?

I fail to see how what the PAlestinians are doing falls under the category of defending.
And once again, the European Jews were not invaders , as they were invited to the region by the British who also fascilitated their immigration. You know, the same British who ruled the land and had the authority to make these decisions.

Youve been reading too many of Tinmores posts

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

 

[toastman]

Rocco, I know your only half Sicilian, so you probably don't understand the ferocity of people defending their homes or kissing Western Imperialism's ass.

Had the Zionists decided to conquer Sicily, then they would have felt ferocity.

Ferocity in defending your homeland from European invaders is an old successful and noble endeavor for the Arabs...These are their homes,

Capisce?

I fail to see how what the PAlestinians are doing falls under the category of defending.
And once again, the European Jews were not invaders , as they were invited to the region by the British who also fascilitated their immigration. You know, the same British who ruled the land and had the authority to make these decisions.

Youve been reading too many of Tinmores posts

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

You didnt even address what I said. I was explaining to you how and why the European Jews were not invaders like you reffered to them as, and yoh completely deflected.

 

[toastman]

BTW just a reminder that I am still posting on my phone which explains all my typos.
For those of you with an iPhone, you kniw how hard it can be to type with touchscreen

 

[pbel]

I fail to see how what the PAlestinians are doing falls under the category of defending.
And once again, the European Jews were not invaders , as they were invited to the region by the British who also fascilitated their immigration. You know, the same British who ruled the land and had the authority to make these decisions.

Youve been reading too many of Tinmores posts

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

You didnt even address what I said. I was explaining to you how and why the European Jews were not invaders like you reffered to them as, and yoh completely deflected.

shaw wee...If not invaders what were they? They certainly terrorized and disposed people.

 

[pbel]

BTW just a reminder that I am still posting on my phone which explains all my typos.
For those of you with an iPhone, you kniw how hard it can be to type with touchscreen

You're masterful...but geez wait til you get home, you sound addicted.

 

[toastman]

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

You didnt even address what I said. I was explaining to you how and why the European Jews were not invaders like you reffered to them as, and yoh completely deflected.

shaw wee...If not invaders what were they? They certainly terrorized and disposed people.

Thats the kind of shit that happens during wars. People on both sides were terrorized.

 

[toastman]

BTW just a reminder that I am still posting on my phone which explains all my typos.
For those of you with an iPhone, you kniw how hard it can be to type with touchscreen

You're masterful...but geez wait til you get home, you sound addicted.

Ive been out of town for a while now, so my phone IS my computer.

Me, addicted?? Hardly

 

[RoccoR]

pbel, et al,

You speak with conviction, that is for sure.

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

(COMMENT)

Your comment that "The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture," is true enough. But that is not what happened.

Again, we are going back into history beyond the current dispute revolving around the 1967 War and the outcomes.

It was Haj Amin al-Husseini (later Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) who incited the masses to murder Jews, burning and looting Jewish homes; the 1920 (Nebi Musa) Riots in Jerusalem; after attacks and murders in Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. He was instrumental in promoting the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine, and after his flight from Palestine, was a known promoter and recruiter of Muslims for the Waffen-SS.

Shortly after the 1929 (Western Wall Uprising) in which the Arabs attacked Jews over the access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem, the rabble-rouser and militant Syrian preacher, Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, established the Palestinian Black Hand (PalBH). The PalBH selectively targeted Jewish families for execution and operated for nearly a decade. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was killed in a 1935 Police shoot-out, in a guerilla action against British forces. His death was a major trigger that started the Great Revolt of 1936-39.

Neither side has clean hands; least of all, the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

pbel, et al,

You speak with conviction, that is for sure.

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

(COMMENT)

Your comment that "The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture," is true enough. But that is not what happened.

Again, we are going back into history beyond the current dispute revolving around the 1967 War and the outcomes.

It was Haj Amin al-Husseini (later Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) who incited the masses to murder Jews, burning and looting Jewish homes; the 1920 (Nebi Musa) Riots in Jerusalem; after attacks and murders in Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. He was instrumental in promoting the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine, and after his flight from Palestine, was a known promoter and recruiter of Muslims for the Waffen-SS.

Shortly after the 1929 (Western Wall Uprising) in which the Arabs attacked Jews over the access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem, the rabble-rouser and militant Syrian preacher, Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, established the Palestinian Black Hand (PalBH). The PalBH selectively targeted Jewish families for execution and operated for nearly a decade. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was killed in a 1935 Police shoot-out, in a guerilla action against British forces. His death was a major trigger that started the Great Revolt of 1936-39.

Neither side has clean hands; least of all, the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Facts have no credibility with the Peebels of this world.

 

[toastman]

pbel, et al,

You speak with conviction, that is for sure.

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

(COMMENT)

Your comment that "The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture," is true enough. But that is not what happened.

Again, we are going back into history beyond the current dispute revolving around the 1967 War and the outcomes.

It was Haj Amin al-Husseini (later Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) who incited the masses to murder Jews, burning and looting Jewish homes; the 1920 (Nebi Musa) Riots in Jerusalem; after attacks and murders in Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. He was instrumental in promoting the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine, and after his flight from Palestine, was a known promoter and recruiter of Muslims for the Waffen-SS.

Shortly after the 1929 (Western Wall Uprising) in which the Arabs attacked Jews over the access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem, the rabble-rouser and militant Syrian preacher, Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, established the Palestinian Black Hand (PalBH). The PalBH selectively targeted Jewish families for execution and operated for nearly a decade. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was killed in a 1935 Police shoot-out, in a guerilla action against British forces. His death was a major trigger that started the Great Revolt of 1936-39.

Neither side has clean hands; least of all, the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Facts have no credibility with the Peebels of this world.

Or Tinmore

 

[P F Tinmore]

pbel, et al,

You speak with conviction, that is for sure.

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

(COMMENT)

Your comment that "The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture," is true enough. But that is not what happened.

Again, we are going back into history beyond the current dispute revolving around the 1967 War and the outcomes.

It was Haj Amin al-Husseini (later Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) who incited the masses to murder Jews, burning and looting Jewish homes; the 1920 (Nebi Musa) Riots in Jerusalem; after attacks and murders in Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. He was instrumental in promoting the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine, and after his flight from Palestine, was a known promoter and recruiter of Muslims for the Waffen-SS.

Shortly after the 1929 (Western Wall Uprising) in which the Arabs attacked Jews over the access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem, the rabble-rouser and militant Syrian preacher, Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, established the Palestinian Black Hand (PalBH). The PalBH selectively targeted Jewish families for execution and operated for nearly a decade. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was killed in a 1935 Police shoot-out, in a guerilla action against British forces. His death was a major trigger that started the Great Revolt of 1936-39.

Neither side has clean hands; least of all, the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

You keep leaving out the part that those were in response to the Zionist invasion of 1917.

 

[toastman]

pbel, et al,

You speak with conviction, that is for sure.

Bullshit! The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture, besides the Brits didn't terrorize civilians to steal their homes, that was Israelis...

(COMMENT)

Your comment that "The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture," is true enough. But that is not what happened.

Again, we are going back into history beyond the current dispute revolving around the 1967 War and the outcomes.

It was Haj Amin al-Husseini (later Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) who incited the masses to murder Jews, burning and looting Jewish homes; the 1920 (Nebi Musa) Riots in Jerusalem; after attacks and murders in Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. He was instrumental in promoting the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine, and after his flight from Palestine, was a known promoter and recruiter of Muslims for the Waffen-SS.

Shortly after the 1929 (Western Wall Uprising) in which the Arabs attacked Jews over the access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem, the rabble-rouser and militant Syrian preacher, Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, established the Palestinian Black Hand (PalBH). The PalBH selectively targeted Jewish families for execution and operated for nearly a decade. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was killed in a 1935 Police shoot-out, in a guerilla action against British forces. His death was a major trigger that started the Great Revolt of 1936-39.

Neither side has clean hands; least of all, the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

You keep leaving out the part that those were in response to the Zionist invasion of 1917.

This is the problem with you Tinmore. You keep parotting the same lies over and over even though it has been explained to you.

There was no invasion. The European Jews were invited by the British to the region. In fact, the British also fascilitated their immigration. Yes, the same British who ruled the land.

The problem with you is that you need to keep lying and fabricating certain events like this in order to further your agenda because without those lies, you have nothing and you know it.

Also, how is threats of genocide and the other things Rocco said a response to the British helping to immigrate European Jews??
Everytime someone brings up something violent Palestinians do, you try to justify it by saying"oh well they did it because the Jews did this or the Israelis did that"

 

[toastman]

Only pro Palestinians lime Tinmore will justify the incitement if mass murder of Jews and looting of their homes because they objected to immigration of Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

pbel, et al,

You speak with conviction, that is for sure.


(COMMENT)

Your comment that "The British, UN or anyone have no right to disposes people of their homes or culture," is true enough. But that is not what happened.

Again, we are going back into history beyond the current dispute revolving around the 1967 War and the outcomes.

It was Haj Amin al-Husseini (later Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) who incited the masses to murder Jews, burning and looting Jewish homes; the 1920 (Nebi Musa) Riots in Jerusalem; after attacks and murders in Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. He was instrumental in promoting the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine, and after his flight from Palestine, was a known promoter and recruiter of Muslims for the Waffen-SS.

Shortly after the 1929 (Western Wall Uprising) in which the Arabs attacked Jews over the access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem, the rabble-rouser and militant Syrian preacher, Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, established the Palestinian Black Hand (PalBH). The PalBH selectively targeted Jewish families for execution and operated for nearly a decade. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam was killed in a 1935 Police shoot-out, in a guerilla action against British forces. His death was a major trigger that started the Great Revolt of 1936-39.

Neither side has clean hands; least of all, the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

You keep leaving out the part that those were in response to the Zionist invasion of 1917.

This is the problem with you Tinmore. You keep parotting the same lies over and over even though it has been explained to you.

There was no invasion. The European Jews were invited by the British to the region. In fact, the British also fascilitated their immigration. Yes, the same British who ruled the land.

The problem with you is that you need to keep lying and fabricating certain events like this in order to further your agenda because without those lies, you have nothing and you know it.

Also, how is threats of genocide and the other things Rocco said a response to the British helping to immigrate European Jews??
Everytime someone brings up something violent Palestinians do, you try to justify it by saying"oh well they did it because the Jews did this or the Israelis did that"

The Zionists recruited the British to help them invade and take over the country.

Well then, that makes it OK.

 

[Phoenall]

America is nearly a net exporter of oil...Only the armaments by the warmongers make money...

The warmongers are the ones you support

I support a just peace to the 67 green line with a shared Jerusalem...If the US doesn't get that, she should leave the ME, we have no need to be there. It brings us terrorism because we arm Israel to the hilt.

A just peace can not depend on non existent 67 borders, as they are far from just. A just peace has to negotiate borders that are defensible and mutually agreed. That is the terms of all the UN resolutions and the Oslo accords. Then Palestinians agreed to and signed the principles of the Oslo accords so why are they refusing to act accordingly.