I went to Politico's website this morning and was struck by something.

[berg80]

Politics, Policy, Political News - POLITICO

Nobody knows politics like POLITICO.

www.politico.com

I had to scroll down the page quite a bit to find any reference to what is arguably the modern day equivalent of this. Something I found troubling.

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre?​

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre? | HISTORY

An attack by President Nixon on his own Justice Department came with grave consequences.

www.history.com

Back in the day, Nixon's firings of DoJ officials quickly escalated in to a constitutional crisis. The prez accepting the resignations of the AG and Deputy AG in protest over Dick firing Special Counsel Cox, who was investigating aspects of the Watergate scandal. A story that dominated the news cycle for days on end.

In that bygone era, even members of the prez's party..........folks he had appointed.........protected the rule of law against a man intent on protecting himself from the consequences of his illegal actions. As troubling as Nixon's actions were it was a proud moment in US history to see men of principle refuse to be associated with what he did. It was a potential tipping point for our republic and Repub officials bravely stood in the breach. It was discussed endlessly in the media, at the water cooler, at the kitchen table, rightly so. It was a consequential event in our history.

So is this. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/31/donald-trump-fbi-staff-010232

To the extent Politico's website reflects the modern day reaction to trump's unconscionable purge of FBI agents doing their jobs it's a sign of the trouble we are in. Admittedly, the speed and frequency of outrageous acts makes in difficult to spend time focusing on any one of them. For us and the media.

Perhaps most troubling of all though is the total absence of the principled Repubs who stood in the breach 50 years ago. The headlines we would be reading in that bygone era are, "AG Pam Bondi resigns over firing of FBI agents involved in J6 investigation." Or, "Senate Republicans vote against the confirmation of Kash Patel in protest over the FBI purge."

Instead, there is only silent acquiescence from members of the former GOP. A sign that everything we Dem's warned of happening when trump 2.0 began has come to pass. Only Repubs can stop the move towards autocracy now. Political courage from Repubs is called for to stop it. So I don't see it stopping.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Politics, Policy, Political News - POLITICO

Nobody knows politics like POLITICO.

www.politico.com

I had to scroll down the page quite a bit to find any reference to what is arguably the modern day equivalent of this. Something I found troubling.

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre?​

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre? | HISTORY

An attack by President Nixon on his own Justice Department came with grave consequences.

www.history.com

Back in the day, Nixon's firings of DoJ officials quickly escalated in to a constitutional crisis. The prez accepting the resignations of the AG and Deputy AG in protest over Dick firing Special Counsel Cox, who was investigating aspects of the Watergate scandal. A story that dominated the news cycle for days on end.

In that bygone era, even members of the prez's party..........folks he had appointed.........protected the rule of law against a man intent on protecting himself from the consequences of his illegal actions. As troubling as Nixon's actions were it was a proud moment in US history to see men of principle refuse to be associated with what he did. It was a potential tipping point for our republic and Repub officials bravely stood in the breach. It was discussed in the media, at the water cooler, at the kitchen table, rightly so. It was a consequential event in our history.

So is this. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/31/donald-trump-fbi-staff-010232

To the extent Politico's website reflects the modern day reaction to trump's unconscionable purge of FBI agents doing their jobs it's a sign of the trouble we are in. Admittedly, the speed and frequency of outrageous acts makes in difficult to spend time focusing on any one of them. For us and the media.

Perhaps most troubling of all though is the total absence of the principled Repubs who stood in the breach 50 years ago. The headlines we would be reading in that bygone era are, "AG Pam Bondi resigns over firing of FBI agents involved in J6 investigation." Or, "Senate Republicans vote against the confirmation of Kash Patel in protest over the FBI purge."

Instead, there is only silent acquiescence from members of the former GOP. A sign that everything we Dem's warned of happening when trump 2.0 began has come to pass. Only Repubs can stop the move towards autocracy now. Political courage is called for. So I don't see it stopping.

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Points awarded for creativity for managing to make your post engaging enough to keep the reader's attention to the halfway point, where it becomes evident that this is just your 10,372nd I HATE TRUMP thread.










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[Auld Phart]

Politics, Policy, Political News - POLITICO

Nobody knows politics like POLITICO.

www.politico.com

I had to scroll down the page quite a bit to find any reference to what is arguably the modern day equivalent of this. Something I found troubling.

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre?​

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre? | HISTORY

An attack by President Nixon on his own Justice Department came with grave consequences.

www.history.com

Back in the day, Nixon's firings of DoJ officials quickly escalated in to a constitutional crisis. The prez accepting the resignations of the AG and Deputy AG in protest over Dick firing Special Counsel Cox, who was investigating aspects of the Watergate scandal. A story that dominated the news cycle for days on end.

In that bygone era, even members of the prez's party..........folks he had appointed.........protected the rule of law against a man intent on protecting himself from the consequences of his illegal actions. As troubling as Nixon's actions were it was a proud moment in US history to see men of principle refuse to be associated with what he did. It was a potential tipping point for our republic and Repub officials bravely stood in the breach. It was discussed in the media, at the water cooler, at the kitchen table, rightly so. It was a consequential event in our history.

So is this. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/31/donald-trump-fbi-staff-010232

To the extent Politico's website reflects the modern day reaction to trump's unconscionable purge of FBI agents doing their jobs it's a sign of the trouble we are in. Admittedly, the speed and frequency of outrageous acts makes in difficult to spend time focusing on any one of them. For us and the media.

Perhaps most troubling of all though is the total absence of the principled Repubs who stood in the breach 50 years ago. The headlines we would be reading in that bygone era are, "AG Pam Bondi resigns over firing of FBI agents involved in J6 investigation." Or, "Senate Republicans vote against the confirmation of Kash Patel in protest over the FBI purge."

Instead, there is only silent acquiescence from members of the former GOP. A sign that everything we Dem's warned of happening when trump 2.0 began has come to pass. Only Repubs can stop the move towards autocracy now. Political courage is called for. So I don't see it stopping.

did it leave a bruise when it hit you?

bleed?

 

[Manonthestreet]

FBI has been worthless since the Clintons

 

[JohnDB]

Politics, Policy, Political News - POLITICO

Nobody knows politics like POLITICO.

www.politico.com

I had to scroll down the page quite a bit to find any reference to what is arguably the modern day equivalent of this. Something I found troubling.

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre?​

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre? | HISTORY

An attack by President Nixon on his own Justice Department came with grave consequences.

www.history.com

Back in the day, Nixon's firings of DoJ officials quickly escalated in to a constitutional crisis. The prez accepting the resignations of the AG and Deputy AG in protest over Dick firing Special Counsel Cox, who was investigating aspects of the Watergate scandal. A story that dominated the news cycle for days on end.

In that bygone era, even members of the prez's party..........folks he had appointed.........protected the rule of law against a man intent on protecting himself from the consequences of his illegal actions. As troubling as Nixon's actions were it was a proud moment in US history to see men of principle refuse to be associated with what he did. It was a potential tipping point for our republic and Repub officials bravely stood in the breach. It was discussed in the media, at the water cooler, at the kitchen table, rightly so. It was a consequential event in our history.

So is this. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/31/donald-trump-fbi-staff-010232

To the extent Politico's website reflects the modern day reaction to trump's unconscionable purge of FBI agents doing their jobs it's a sign of the trouble we are in. Admittedly, the speed and frequency of outrageous acts makes in difficult to spend time focusing on any one of them. For us and the media.

Perhaps most troubling of all though is the total absence of the principled Repubs who stood in the breach 50 years ago. The headlines we would be reading in that bygone era are, "AG Pam Bondi resigns over firing of FBI agents involved in J6 investigation." Or, "Senate Republicans vote against the confirmation of Kash Patel in protest over the FBI purge."

Instead, there is only silent acquiescence from members of the former GOP. A sign that everything we Dem's warned of happening when trump 2.0 began has come to pass. Only Repubs can stop the move towards autocracy now. Political courage is called for. So I don't see it stopping.

What MAJOR principle you are ignoring here is the difference between RULE OF LAW vx RULE BY LAW.

We say "rule of law" because the laws are the ultimate authority and everyone, regardless of title or wealth, is subject to the laws of the land (justice is blind)

Ruling by law makes for a special class of individuals who are not subject to the laws of the land. Which is the problem people have with what Biden did and Nixon tried to do. And soon congress is going to find out what the difference is as well for all the insider trading they have been involved with.

To the outside observer, what has been happening with the firings is the removal of individuals that have been involved in ruling by law vx rule of law. And most Americans are good with that. (At least those who understand the difference and importance of distinctions)

 

[berg80]

FBI has been worthless since the Clintons

Even though you can't admit it, I know you know the purge is wrong.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Even though you can't admit it, I know you know the purge is wrong.

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Carnac the Magnificent, folks.

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[berg80]

We say "rule of law" because the laws are the ultimate authority and everyone, regardless of title or wealth, is subject to the laws of the land (justice is blind)

I wish that were true, but it isn't. We now live in a country where those who try to enforce the rule of law, depending on who they are trying to enforce it against, are subject to retribution. Meaning we live in a country that is selectively lawless. At the mercy of those in power who decide if breaking the law will be punished or not according to who broke it.

 

[berg80]

The message being sent by trump's DoJ is crystal clear. If trump commits a crime, don't investigate it. If you do you will be punished.

 

[JohnDB]

I wish that were true, but it isn't. We now live in a country where those who try to enforce the rule of law, depending on who they are trying to enforce it against, are subject to retribution. Meaning we live in a country that is selectively lawless. At the mercy of those in power who decide if breaking the law will be punished or not according to who broke it.

Most people believe that the DOJ was weaponized against Trump. Only "Blue Dog Democrats" believe otherwise.

Where were the resignations from being weaponized?

That in itself is a major problem.

The other problem, such as in the Judge Merchan situation, is that these people's behavior is not as shrouded as it once was. In fact it's very transparent that Judge Merchan's Daughter has profited greatly by her father's "Witch Hunt" of Trump. Even the proceedings are not hidden even though he has placed a gag order on them. The searching of Mar a Lago was obviously based upon false evidence used to search that resulted in nothing but more manufactured false evidence. The entire document case was a sham.
Where were the resignations from that endeavor?

But the Hunter Biden laptop detailing how Joe and his family sold access to American policy? Trump gets blamed for their misdeeds? (Russian collusion?)

No....that's precisely rule by law instead of rule of law.

Hillary with the Bengazi fiasco and the private servers with emails...again another instance of rule by law instead of rule of law. And congress with Bill Clinton's impeachment....more rule by law instead of rule of law. Clinton was guilty....Trump's impeachment was based on phoney evidence.

So....turning back the clock is vital to get back to Nixon era morality.

 

[JohnDB]

The message being sent by trump's DoJ is crystal. If trump commits a crime, don't investigate it. If you do you will be punished.

That is simply not true. And if you were not such a partisan you could admit it.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Even though you can't admit it, I know you know the purge is wrong.

Then why when the fbi gathers information they do anything they can from going to court

 

[berg80]

Most people believe that the DOJ was weaponized against Trump.

Despite the avalanche of right wing propaganda based on trump's lies...........

Most reject Trump’s claims of persecution. Some still have concerns.​

For the better part of the past eight years, Donald Trump has laid the groundwork to get voters to dismiss any adverse result in a court of law as the product of a political “witch hunt” or a “weaponized” justice system.

Now the effort is reaching its culmination, with Trump suffering multiple major losses in civil court and his first criminal trial starting in Manhattan this week, 6½ months before the presidential election.

Americans writ large aren’t inclined to accept Trump’s framing at this point. But even skeptics harbor concerns about his being given a fair shake in ways that could especially matter with his Manhattan trial underway.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/16/most-reject-trumps-claims-persecution-some-still-have-concerns/

 

[berg80]

That is simply not true. And if you were not such a partisan you could admit it.

It is absolutely true and you know it. Pretending it isn't ignores the demonstrable reality that trump is carrying out retribution against perceived enemies like FBI agents who investigated the violent J6 criminals.

 

[berg80]

The plan to keep members of the POT in line, boiled down to its essence, is retribution against any dissent. Either you're all in or you expose yourself to attack in all its manifestations.

 

[j-mac]

I wish that were true, but it isn't. We now live in a country where those who try to enforce the rule of law, depending on who they are trying to enforce it against, are subject to retribution. Meaning we live in a country that is selectively lawless. At the mercy of those in power who decide if breaking the law will be punished or not according to who broke it.

Oh quit crying already…

 

[bdtex]

I had to scroll down the page quite a bit to find any reference to what is arguably the modern day equivalent of this. Something I found troubling.

I put Politico on the no-fly list 10+ years ago. Not a reliable news source. It once was.

 

[berg80]

Oh quit crying already…

Buck up, sparky. You're going to be defending trump's illegal/unethical/ignorant actions for 4 years. Get used to it.

 

[berg80]

I put Politico on the no-fly list 10+ years ago. Not a reliable news source. It once was.

Translation: some of their reporting makes me uncomfortable since I don't particularly care for the truth any longer.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Politics, Policy, Political News - POLITICO

Nobody knows politics like POLITICO.

www.politico.com

I had to scroll down the page quite a bit to find any reference to what is arguably the modern day equivalent of this. Something I found troubling.

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre?​

What Was the Saturday Night Massacre? | HISTORY

An attack by President Nixon on his own Justice Department came with grave consequences.

www.history.com

Back in the day, Nixon's firings of DoJ officials quickly escalated in to a constitutional crisis. The prez accepting the resignations of the AG and Deputy AG in protest over Dick firing Special Counsel Cox, who was investigating aspects of the Watergate scandal. A story that dominated the news cycle for days on end.

In that bygone era, even members of the prez's party..........folks he had appointed.........protected the rule of law against a man intent on protecting himself from the consequences of his illegal actions. As troubling as Nixon's actions were it was a proud moment in US history to see men of principle refuse to be associated with what he did. It was a potential tipping point for our republic and Repub officials bravely stood in the breach. It was discussed endlessly in the media, at the water cooler, at the kitchen table, rightly so. It was a consequential event in our history.

So is this. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/31/donald-trump-fbi-staff-010232

To the extent Politico's website reflects the modern day reaction to trump's unconscionable purge of FBI agents doing their jobs it's a sign of the trouble we are in. Admittedly, the speed and frequency of outrageous acts makes in difficult to spend time focusing on any one of them. For us and the media.

Perhaps most troubling of all though is the total absence of the principled Repubs who stood in the breach 50 years ago. The headlines we would be reading in that bygone era are, "AG Pam Bondi resigns over firing of FBI agents involved in J6 investigation." Or, "Senate Republicans vote against the confirmation of Kash Patel in protest over the FBI purge."

Instead, there is only silent acquiescence from members of the former GOP. A sign that everything we Dem's warned of happening when trump 2.0 began has come to pass. Only Repubs can stop the move towards autocracy now. Political courage from Repubs is called for to stop it. So I don't see it stopping.

Further proof that Trump is the product of a GOP that for decades has embraced corruption and criminality, a party that is incapable of responsible governance and sound public policy, a GOP of blind partisan hacks that place party before country.