I was wrong... the health of the mother is not valid for an abortion.

[Chuz Life]

Do you always INTENTIONALLY miss the obvious?

It sure appears that you do.

Banning abortion is NOT only about reducing the numbers of abortions. Reducing the number of abortions is not even the PRIMARY reason for banning abortions.

The primary reason for banning abortions is because CHILDREN have a right to the "Equal Protections of our Laws."

That's it! Period. End Stop!

We get that you are too fucking ignorant, too steeped in denial or to callous to CARE about the rights of the children being killed. . . but your ignorance is NOT going to discourage those who are intellectually HONEST enough to accept and acknowledge the facts that YOU obviously wish we would ignore.

We kill kids by the thousands every year with our bombs.

Let's say you are right about that.

Answer the question.

How does that fact make LEGALIZED ABORTION more acceptable to you?

If your only rebuttal is dishonesty there is no where to go.

I'm pro-life but you know that.

There is nothing dishonest about asking a direct question which you still have yet to answer.

I am unable to answer a dishonest question.

Your inability to give a direct answer to a difficult question does not make the question dishonest.

You are the one claiming to be "pro-life."

And you repeatedly introduce the fact that children are ALSO being killed in ways other than abortion, everytime some argues that abortions VIOLATE a child's rights and therefor, abortions should be criminalized.

So, your comments BEG the fucking question. "How does that fact children are also being killed in other reprehensible ways somehow make LEGALIZED ABORTION more acceptable to you?

An intellectually HONEST "pro-life" person would simply answer that it DOESN'T. Or at least give a REASONABLE explanation abut how it DOES.

 

[pknopp]

We kill kids by the thousands every year with our bombs.

Let's say you are right about that.

Answer the question.

How does that fact make LEGALIZED ABORTION more acceptable to you?

If your only rebuttal is dishonesty there is no where to go.

I'm pro-life but you know that.

There is nothing dishonest about asking a direct question which you still have yet to answer.

I am unable to answer a dishonest question.

Your inability to give a direct answer to a difficult question does not make the question dishonest.

You are the one claiming to be "pro-life."

And you repeatedly introduce the fact that children are ALSO being killed in ways other than abortion, everytime some argues that abortions VIOLATE a child's rights and therefor, abortions should be criminalized.

So, your comments BEG the fucking question. "How does that fact children are also being killed in other reprehensible ways somehow make LEGALIZED ABORTION more acceptable to you?

An intellectually HONEST "pro-life" person would simply answer that it DOESN'T. Or at least give a REASONABLE explanation abut how it DOES.

None of it is more acceptable to me.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

 

[Chuz Life]

View attachment 312136

That's you.

What about others?

What about children?

 

[Penelope]

Watching Schumer threaten SCOTUS judges if they rule against Roe VS Wade made me wonder about my own knowledge regarding my position... abortion OK only in case of health of money, rape or incest.
I am wrong!
Even in 1981, former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. C. Everett Koop said, “The fact of the matter is that abortion as a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be nonexistent.”

But as former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino has affirmed on the record:
During my time at Albany Medical Center I managed hundreds of such cases by “terminating” pregnancies to save mother’s lives. In all those cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.
What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary?

But the biased MSM has never shared that with us.
Consequently since 1973 over 61,781,054 lives were destroyed.
Think about that...what baby among those 62 million could have discovered cures for cancer? Or made other fantastic contributions...all because a woman wasn't responsible enough.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Just consider that: 46% of all abortions were performed on women who had one or more abortions before!
Think about it... There is an excuse for first timers... but 2nd, or 3 or more previous abortions?

Planned Parenthood Turns 99 Today: Has Killed 7 Million Babies in Abortions

Are you a male or female, I bet a male.

Watching Schumer threaten SCOTUS judges if they rule against Roe VS Wade made me wonder about my own knowledge regarding my position... abortion OK only in case of health of money, rape or incest.
I am wrong!
Even in 1981, former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. C. Everett Koop said, “The fact of the matter is that abortion as a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be nonexistent.”

But as former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino has affirmed on the record:
During my time at Albany Medical Center I managed hundreds of such cases by “terminating” pregnancies to save mother’s lives. In all those cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.
What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary?

But the biased MSM has never shared that with us.
Consequently since 1973 over 61,781,054 lives were destroyed.
Think about that...what baby among those 62 million could have discovered cures for cancer? Or made other fantastic contributions...all because a woman wasn't responsible enough.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Just consider that: 46% of all abortions were performed on women who had one or more abortions before!
Think about it... There is an excuse for first timers... but 2nd, or 3 or more previous abortions?

Planned Parenthood Turns 99 Today: Has Killed 7 Million Babies in Abortions

Are you a male or female, I bet a male.

WHY WOULD YOU GUESS THAT POSTER IS MALE? only they HAVE CONSCIENCES? I happen to be a woman and would never ever have an abortion because I would not be able to live with myself for taking the life of a baby. It boggles my mind to think that anyone is so incredibly selfish to do so.

Pregnancy-Related Deaths
The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 700 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications.
Pregnancy-Related Deaths | CDC
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because the way he talks about women. By the way, you do not need to get an abortion, you can die on the table from childbirth if you desire.

And I mind my own business and you should too.

 

[alang1216]

Watching Schumer threaten SCOTUS judges if they rule against Roe VS Wade made me wonder about my own knowledge regarding my position... abortion OK only in case of health of money, rape or incest.
I am wrong!
Even in 1981, former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. C. Everett Koop said, “The fact of the matter is that abortion as a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be nonexistent.”

But as former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino has affirmed on the record:
During my time at Albany Medical Center I managed hundreds of such cases by “terminating” pregnancies to save mother’s lives. In all those cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.
What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary?

But the biased MSM has never shared that with us.
Consequently since 1973 over 61,781,054 lives were destroyed.
Think about that...what baby among those 62 million could have discovered cures for cancer? Or made other fantastic contributions...all because a woman wasn't responsible enough.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Just consider that: 46% of all abortions were performed on women who had one or more abortions before!
Think about it... There is an excuse for first timers... but 2nd, or 3 or more previous abortions?

Planned Parenthood Turns 99 Today: Has Killed 7 Million Babies in Abortions

Are you a male or female, I bet a male.

I was originally ok with abortions in case of mother's health, rape or incest, based on the statistics, the murder of a person
that was NOT going to affect a woman's health is wrong.
Then I find out that really DUMB women who already had a 2nd or 3rd abortion?
That is shear murder because the women couldn't say NO!
It was evidently OK for a few moments of pleasure to terminate an especially innocent baby.
That makes my sex irrelevant.
But what is more relevant is you approve of dumb women who have already had abortions? That is shear stupidity on theirs and your part!

To me a fertilized egg is not yet a human being, any more than a blueprint is a house. A baby at birth is a person and has the right to live. Somewhere between those two extremes is a line where abortions (except in very rare cases) should be banned. I'm not sure where that line is but it is our brains that make us different from any other animal, a heart is just not the same. Once that brain truly begins to function, that is a person. IMHO of course.

So, just what is that thing that's growing in your body, a U Haul? A fertilized egg is a human. Not a truck, dog or anything but a baby growing inside of you. Now if you are such a selfish person and don't want to carry this child to term or raise a child, then BE RESPONSIBLE AND TAKE THE PILL!!!!!!!! oR HAVE YOURSELF FIXED OR TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE, NOT THAT OF AN INNOCENT.

You're welcome to your opinion but so am I. That fertilized egg has no brain and it is our brains that make us unique. That fertilized egg is a container for a unique strand of DNA but DNA does not mean anything to me since every cell in my body has DNA and I'd wager most or all is unique due to errors in replication. Why one cell has more rights than any other cell is beyond me.

I get that a fertilized egg may become a person, given the right circumstances, but until it does it is just another piece of plasma.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

So, your comments BEG the f•••ing question. "How does that fact children are also being killed in other reprehensible ways somehow make LEGALIZED ABORTION more acceptable to you?

None of it is more acceptable to me.

Then why are you arguing that one of them ought to be legal, and recognized as a “right” of the one seeking to have an innocent child killed?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Pregnancy-Related Deaths
The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 700 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications.

More than a million innocent human beings die every year, from abortion. Thousands every day. That doesn't come anywhere close to a reasonable price to pay to prevent seven hundred deaths per year.

 

[alang1216]

If you agree a single cell from my body is more akin to a spare tire than a car, what about a fertilized egg makes it any different from my single cell?

leave them both alone and that will answer itself

Leave them alone and both will die. Both depend on external factors to survive, the egg depends on the mother, the cell depends on the body. If one of my cells becomes cancerous I can choose to have it removed.

 

[Penelope]

Pregnancy-Related Deaths
The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 700 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications.

More than a million innocent human beings die every year, from abortion. Thousands every day. That doesn't come anywhere close to a reasonable price to pay to prevent seven hundred deaths per year.

Just another male trying to control women's reproductive system. Why not concentrate on pedophiles as most of them are males.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You didn't dispute anything I said so what is it that you think I haven't learned?

It's been almost 50 years now. Just think how many lives could have been saved in that amount of time if we had only been willing to address the reasons many women abort?

It's all good with you for this to continue another 50?

Why?

Your premise is, to its very roots, bullshit.

You're trying to sell extreme left wrong-wing Socialist polices as the cure for abortion—policies which history has proven only increase the very suffering that they purport to intend to mitigate or eliminate.

The only real cure for abortion, is to recognize it for what it is—the cold-blooded murder of an innocent human being; and for our criminal justice system to treat it exactly the same as it would treat any other deliberate murder of an innocent child. Trying to bribe would-be child-murderers with the false promises of Socialism is no solution at all.

Isn't it odd that they never notice that we've greatly increased social programs over the years, and yet abortions haven't stopped?

It is odd that they never notice the abortion rate has decreased to it’s lowest rate since it was legalized.

Making it illegal didn’t stop it them. Why do you think it would now?

Why do you think I think it will stop abortion entirely? Can you say, "straw man"?

 

[Dana7360]

If you are a Democrat, this is what you are voting for:
View attachment 311753

If you are a blind supporter of either party this is what you support also.

Civilians Killed & Wounded | Costs of War

Are you suggesting that (mostly unavoidable) war atrocities are somehow justification for an acceptance abortions?

It would seem, rather, that what is suggested is that protesting against abortion obligates protesting slaughter of civilians.

Obligates. . .

Right.

But not the other way around?

Why doesn't your (supposed) outrage over children killed in war not also "obligate" you to fight abortion?

That knife cuts both ways.

There is no comparison between terminating a pregnancy and "murdering a child". Women have the God-given right to decide when and if, we are going to have a baby, and screw any man who would take away our right to determine when and if we are going to have a baby.

The ways and means of avoiding having an abortion, if you believe that having an abortion is wrong, including, but not limited to, keep it in your pants if you are a man, and for women who think abortion is wrong, dont have an abortion. This isn't a matter of don't steal something, because forcing a woman to parent a child she cannot afford or doesn't want, never turns out well for either the mother or the child.

You want children to exist, to what end? You don't want to pay to feed, house or educate these children, so why are you so desperate for these children to be born? If you helped women take care of these children, they would be in a better position to welcome these babies.

My youngest daughter says that many young women of her generation are refusing to have children at all. Child care and the cost of raising a child is so high, that young women feel they will never have any quality of life at all if they have a child. Many are getting their tubes tied in their 20's before ohaving children.

Not having kids or not having many of them started when women finally had a reliable form of birth control. If you look back, families all of a sudden went from a usual 4 kids down to 2. Most women don't want to be having a ton of kids. We weren't put on this earth for the only reason to create more people. Once we had a reliable form of birth control we changed things.

Women in my generation started the not having kids or not until later in life and only having one. I have a few friends who didn't have kids. I have several who like me, didn't have children until after we went to school, then established our careers.

Which is what I did. My child wasn't born until a month before my 38th birthday. I have one child. I have one sort of child too. My child brought that other one home from school about a decade ago. That one lost it's mom at age 3 to cancer and had been thrown from one relative to another from my state to Indiana to Texas and back. He had never known a real family so I invited him to join ours. That child has been a part of our family ever since.

Women have always wanted to have lives of our own but couldn't before we had reliable birth control. We've had the pill since 1960. We now have the opportunity to have our own lives and most women take that opportunity. I know I did.

 

[healthmyths]

Watching Schumer threaten SCOTUS judges if they rule against Roe VS Wade made me wonder about my own knowledge regarding my position... abortion OK only in case of health of money, rape or incest.
I am wrong!
Even in 1981, former Surgeon General of the United States Dr. C. Everett Koop said, “The fact of the matter is that abortion as a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be nonexistent.”

But as former abortionist Dr. Anthony Levatino has affirmed on the record:
During my time at Albany Medical Center I managed hundreds of such cases by “terminating” pregnancies to save mother’s lives. In all those cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.
What Percentage of Abortions Are Medically Necessary?

But the biased MSM has never shared that with us.
Consequently since 1973 over 61,781,054 lives were destroyed.
Think about that...what baby among those 62 million could have discovered cures for cancer? Or made other fantastic contributions...all because a woman wasn't responsible enough.
Number of Abortions in US & Worldwide - Number of abortions since 1973

Just consider that: 46% of all abortions were performed on women who had one or more abortions before!
Think about it... There is an excuse for first timers... but 2nd, or 3 or more previous abortions?

Planned Parenthood Turns 99 Today: Has Killed 7 Million Babies in Abortions

Are you a male or female, I bet a male.

I was originally ok with abortions in case of mother's health, rape or incest, based on the statistics, the murder of a person
that was NOT going to affect a woman's health is wrong.
Then I find out that really DUMB women who already had a 2nd or 3rd abortion?
That is shear murder because the women couldn't say NO!
It was evidently OK for a few moments of pleasure to terminate an especially innocent baby.
That makes my sex irrelevant.
But what is more relevant is you approve of dumb women who have already had abortions? That is shear stupidity on theirs and your part!

To me a fertilized egg is not yet a human being, any more than a blueprint is a house. A baby at birth is a person and has the right to live. Somewhere between those two extremes is a line where abortions (except in very rare cases) should be banned. I'm not sure where that line is but it is our brains that make us different from any other animal, a heart is just not the same. Once that brain truly begins to function, that is a person. IMHO of course.

So, just what is that thing that's growing in your body, a U Haul? A fertilized egg is a human. Not a truck, dog or anything but a baby growing inside of you. Now if you are such a selfish person and don't want to carry this child to term or raise a child, then BE RESPONSIBLE AND TAKE THE PILL!!!!!!!! oR HAVE YOURSELF FIXED OR TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE, NOT THAT OF AN INNOCENT.

You're welcome to your opinion but so am I. That fertilized egg has no brain and it is our brains that make us unique. That fertilized egg is a container for a unique strand of DNA but DNA does not mean anything to me since every cell in my body has DNA and I'd wager most or all is unique due to errors in replication. Why one cell has more rights than any other cell is beyond me.

I get that a fertilized egg may become a person, given the right circumstances, but until it does it is just another piece of plasma.

I'd suggest you watch this... Conception to birth -- visualized
Image-maker Alexander Tsiaras shares a powerful medical visualization, showing human development from conception to birth and beyond. (Some graphic images.) Note the mystery involved that is not explainable except for what Mr. Tsiaras as ....

 

[healthmyths]

If you are a blind supporter of either party this is what you support also.

Civilians Killed & Wounded | Costs of War

Are you suggesting that (mostly unavoidable) war atrocities are somehow justification for an acceptance abortions?

It would seem, rather, that what is suggested is that protesting against abortion obligates protesting slaughter of civilians.

Obligates. . .

Right.

But not the other way around?

Why doesn't your (supposed) outrage over children killed in war not also "obligate" you to fight abortion?

That knife cuts both ways.

There is no comparison between terminating a pregnancy and "murdering a child". Women have the God-given right to decide when and if, we are going to have a baby, and screw any man who would take away our right to determine when and if we are going to have a baby.

The ways and means of avoiding having an abortion, if you believe that having an abortion is wrong, including, but not limited to, keep it in your pants if you are a man, and for women who think abortion is wrong, dont have an abortion. This isn't a matter of don't steal something, because forcing a woman to parent a child she cannot afford or doesn't want, never turns out well for either the mother or the child.

You want children to exist, to what end? You don't want to pay to feed, house or educate these children, so why are you so desperate for these children to be born? If you helped women take care of these children, they would be in a better position to welcome these babies.

My youngest daughter says that many young women of her generation are refusing to have children at all. Child care and the cost of raising a child is so high, that young women feel they will never have any quality of life at all if they have a child. Many are getting their tubes tied in their 20's before ohaving children.

Not having kids or not having many of them started when women finally had a reliable form of birth control. If you look back, families all of a sudden went from a usual 4 kids down to 2. Most women don't want to be having a ton of kids. We weren't put on this earth for the only reason to create more people. Once we had a reliable form of birth control we changed things.

Women in my generation started the not having kids or not until later in life and only having one. I have a few friends who didn't have kids. I have several who like me, didn't have children until after we went to school, then established our careers.

Which is what I did. My child wasn't born until a month before my 38th birthday. I have one child. I have one sort of child too. My child brought that other one home from school about a decade ago. That one lost it's mom at age 3 to cancer and had been thrown from one relative to another from my state to Indiana to Texas and back. He had never known a real family so I invited him to join ours. That child has been a part of our family ever since.

Women have always wanted to have lives of our own but couldn't before we had reliable birth control. We've had the pill since 1960. We now have the opportunity to have our own lives and most women take that opportunity. I know I did.

I have never been against birth control. What I'm really against though is the stupid women that have 2 or more abortions and OBVIOUSLY
haven't used birth control! These dummies constitute as I pointed out over 40% of abortions by stupid women that have already had abortions!
Total disrespect for life is what this women represent. And therefore they should be sterilized as they seemingly can't take birth control pills!

 

[Dana7360]

Whatever absurd semantic games you try to play do not change the truth. Abortion is homicide. It is the intentional killing of an innocent human being. And absent circumstances to require it, comparable to circumstances under which homicide is otherwise justifiable, it is an evil act, that ought not ever be tolerated by any civilized society.

It is not a semantic game. Words have e meanings. You want arbitrarily change them.

Infant: very young child or baby. Prior to bith it is a fetus, embryo, zygote....

It's a semantic game when you want to use colloquial terms after birth and medical terms before, and pretend the medical terms mean "not a baby".

No. It's not semantics. It's accuracy. What you call "colloquial" terms are scientific terms accurately describing phases of development. What do you fail to understand about that? You don't get to create your own definitions just because the real ones don't suit you.

You don't get to cherrrypick definitions either. . . But you keep trying to do just that.

Sweetheart - my definitions are accurate.

No child prior to birth, is called an "infant" - ever. You're false claim of infanticide is exactly that - an attempt at emotional manipulation by deliberately misusing definitions.

Exactly.

No pregnant woman tells people she has a baby.

She says she's going to have a baby.

Words have real meanings but some people choose to make up their own meanings for words. Only for the reason that the honest and factual words don't fit their agenda.

I think it's weird that once the child is born or if a woman wants help with birth control, those same anti choice people say that it's not their business and she should take care of herself.

When the woman is pregnant it's the anti choice people's business. When the chid is born or conceptions is needed, it's none of the anti choice people's business.

They sure do pick and choose their beliefs and those beliefs sure do bend with their own convenient winds.

 

[Dana7360]

As a female I personally could never have a willful, voluntary abortion. A miscarriage is a type of natural abortion and are much more frequent than people think, but I am speaking about an abortion as a form of birth control.

Abortion can not and has never been used as birth control.

The definition of birth control is methods that PREVENT pregnancy.

It's impossible to prevent something that has already happened.

Plus, for someone to use it as birth control, they would have to use it every time they got pregnant from sex. Which is impossible.

Here in America we have regulations on abortion. Every state sets regulations on how often a woman can have an abortion. The minimum time is 6 months. It's mostly to protect the woman's fertility. If a woman has too many abortions and are too close together, it scars the lining of the uterus and she is infertile for life.

So if a woman gets pregnant too soon after an abortion, she can't have another one.

Abortion has never been used as birth control.

It's impossible to prevent what has already happened.

Here's the honest and factual definition of birth control from good old Webster's dictionary.

Please learn the honest meanings of words and use those honest meanings.

 

[Chuz Life]

It is not a semantic game. Words have e meanings. You want arbitrarily change them.

Infant: very young child or baby. Prior to bith it is a fetus, embryo, zygote....

It's a semantic game when you want to use colloquial terms after birth and medical terms before, and pretend the medical terms mean "not a baby".

No. It's not semantics. It's accuracy. What you call "colloquial" terms are scientific terms accurately describing phases of development. What do you fail to understand about that? You don't get to create your own definitions just because the real ones don't suit you.

You don't get to cherrrypick definitions either. . . But you keep trying to do just that.

Sweetheart - my definitions are accurate.

No child prior to birth, is called an "infant" - ever. You're false claim of infanticide is exactly that - an attempt at emotional manipulation by deliberately misusing definitions.

Exactly.

No pregnant woman tells people she has a baby.

She says she's going to have a baby.

Words have real meanings but some people choose to make up their own meanings for words. Only for the reason that the honest and factual words don't fit their agenda.

I think it's weird that once the child is born or if a woman wants help with birth control, those same anti choice people say that it's not their business and she should take care of herself.

When the woman is pregnant it's the anti choice people's business. When the chid is born or conceptions is needed, it's none of the anti choice people's business.

They sure do pick and choose their beliefs and those beliefs sure do bend with their own convenient winds.

Just for shitz and grinz. . .


Let's Google the wordz "with child."

+"with child" +"dictionary - Bing

WITH CHILD | definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

With child definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Now, how do you suppose that thought, definition or sentiment ever made its way into the dictionaries? Especially, given that it is a completely foreign concept for YOU?

 

[pknopp]

So, your comments BEG the f•••ing question. "How does that fact children are also being killed in other reprehensible ways somehow make LEGALIZED ABORTION more acceptable to you?

None of it is more acceptable to me.

Then why are you arguing that one of them ought to be legal, and recognized as a “right” of the one seeking to have an innocent child killed?

View attachment 312147

I understand why the pro-choice side doesn't trust the pro-life side. Too many being dishonest.

 

[pknopp]

Are you suggesting that (mostly unavoidable) war atrocities are somehow justification for an acceptance abortions?

It would seem, rather, that what is suggested is that protesting against abortion obligates protesting slaughter of civilians.

Obligates. . .

Right.

But not the other way around?

Why doesn't your (supposed) outrage over children killed in war not also "obligate" you to fight abortion?

That knife cuts both ways.

There is no comparison between terminating a pregnancy and "murdering a child". Women have the God-given right to decide when and if, we are going to have a baby, and screw any man who would take away our right to determine when and if we are going to have a baby.

The ways and means of avoiding having an abortion, if you believe that having an abortion is wrong, including, but not limited to, keep it in your pants if you are a man, and for women who think abortion is wrong, dont have an abortion. This isn't a matter of don't steal something, because forcing a woman to parent a child she cannot afford or doesn't want, never turns out well for either the mother or the child.

You want children to exist, to what end? You don't want to pay to feed, house or educate these children, so why are you so desperate for these children to be born? If you helped women take care of these children, they would be in a better position to welcome these babies.

My youngest daughter says that many young women of her generation are refusing to have children at all. Child care and the cost of raising a child is so high, that young women feel they will never have any quality of life at all if they have a child. Many are getting their tubes tied in their 20's before ohaving children.

Not having kids or not having many of them started when women finally had a reliable form of birth control. If you look back, families all of a sudden went from a usual 4 kids down to 2. Most women don't want to be having a ton of kids. We weren't put on this earth for the only reason to create more people. Once we had a reliable form of birth control we changed things.

Women in my generation started the not having kids or not until later in life and only having one. I have a few friends who didn't have kids. I have several who like me, didn't have children until after we went to school, then established our careers.

Which is what I did. My child wasn't born until a month before my 38th birthday. I have one child. I have one sort of child too. My child brought that other one home from school about a decade ago. That one lost it's mom at age 3 to cancer and had been thrown from one relative to another from my state to Indiana to Texas and back. He had never known a real family so I invited him to join ours. That child has been a part of our family ever since.

Women have always wanted to have lives of our own but couldn't before we had reliable birth control. We've had the pill since 1960. We now have the opportunity to have our own lives and most women take that opportunity. I know I did.

I have never been against birth control. What I'm really against though is the stupid women that have 2 or more abortions and OBVIOUSLY
haven't used birth control! These dummies constitute as I pointed out over 40% of abortions by stupid women that have already had abortions!
Total disrespect for life is what this women represent. And therefore they should be sterilized as they seemingly can't take birth control pills!

Can we also sterilize the war mongers with no respect for life?

 

[pknopp]

As a female I personally could never have a willful, voluntary abortion. A miscarriage is a type of natural abortion and are much more frequent than people think, but I am speaking about an abortion as a form of birth control.

Abortion can not and has never been used as birth control.

The definition of birth control is methods that PREVENT pregnancy.

It's impossible to prevent something that has already happened.

Plus, for someone to use it as birth control, they would have to use it every time they got pregnant from sex. Which is impossible.

Here in America we have regulations on abortion. Every state sets regulations on how often a woman can have an abortion. The minimum time is 6 months. It's mostly to protect the woman's fertility. If a woman has too many abortions and are too close together, it scars the lining of the uterus and she is infertile for life.

So if a woman gets pregnant too soon after an abortion, she can't have another one.

Abortion has never been used as birth control.

It's impossible to prevent what has already happened.

Here's the honest and factual definition of birth control from good old Webster's dictionary.

Please learn the honest meanings of words and use those honest meanings.

I can't recall ever hearing of a limit between the time one can have an abortion. I've followed this for a long time at that.

Have a link to that? (I did look and did not find one)