I was wrong about Covid 19, and you probably was too.

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

The first sign of the virus is a diminishing ability to use proper grammar.

Good Allah, I be infected!

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

..... Is it really that bad?

It is.
The stress levels are at peak. Imagine YOU... having to care for people who have the very virus that has the world on edge. YOU are in the room with them. And then you go home to your family. "Am I safe? Was I well covered? Did I touch something"?
And then imagine yourself having at least the comfort that the really sick and dying are old, or have other respiratory/immune problems. But then, 24 hours later - that is not the case anymore. Now YOU might literally die if you get it. But you still have to take care of those that could infect you. 12 hours at a time.

Imagine that stress.

So basically the stress they feel is from a public worked to a state of hysteria and not because of a maybe little worse than typical flu.

I see the power of the American media to push people beyond sane behaviour

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Great pic, but I was serious in that post. YOU said they are dealing with people's FEARS, not so much the virus

 

[MadChemist]

I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

Most state are still dealing with a minimum of cases.

New York is getting blasted from what I read.

California has seen cases drop off.

 

[Asclepias]

Let’s hope that more conservatives acknowledge the fact that this outbreak is serious, that they stop trying to downplay its severity, and stop lying about the crisis being ‘overblown’ by ‘the media.’

Don't misrepresent what I say here, or try to use it to support your own bad narrative.
The media have been egregiously irresponsible and contributed greatly to the panic buying etc. As well as were counter-productive making this about politics that clouded all of us.
A good example was when Trump was talking about the hopes of the malaria treatment and feels pretty good about it - and the dumbass media guy ask an asinine question - "Do you think your positive spin on this is giving Americans a false sense of hope on an unapproved drug" - WTF kind of dumbass question was that????.... and as it turns out the hope about the malaria drug has basis. It IS helping some patients, although they do not yet understand why.

You dont think false hope is dangerous? Let me tell you what it does. Its death to leadership. The more times you fail to come through by bullshitting people the less those people are going to believe you. Its like the boy that cried wolf. Drumpf has long passed the point where most people see him as nothing more than a carnival barker.

He should warn them if they dare step outside, THEYRE GONNA DIE!

No false hope there

That would be more bullshit but I should expect that type of ignorance of the facts from a Drumpf supporter.

I've just proven you can never be satisfied.

You've only consistently proven youre an idiot. No one is saying dont go outside.

 

[yidnar]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

keep spreading your left wing lies you stupid piece of shit ! Trump called the lying lefts accusations that he was misshandling the virus outbreak a hoax ! even in something as serious as what we are going through people like you cant resist lying and politicizing tragedy ! you are scum !

 

[Osiris-ODS]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic. Don't touch your mouth and nose after touching other people or surfaces. That's just as effective. If someone sneezes directly on you or if you breathe aerosolized particles containing the virus the mask does nothing.

 

[Asclepias]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Yeah we know that now. My point was that I was able to see this coming as a lay person and the fucking idiot in the white house didnt. How could someone with access to intelligence reports not take action?

 

[yidnar]

I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

Most state are still dealing with a minimum of cases.

New York is getting blasted from what I read.

California has seen cases drop off.

many in New York are not practicing social distancing ! Quomo was just pointing that out !

 

[sakinago]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Plus our hospitals are effectively out of masks, I know mine is, and are going to have to either keep reusing, or switch to surgical/industrial masks. So everyone stop buying masks.

 

[yidnar]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

keep spreading your left wing lies you stupid piece of shit ! Trump called the lying lefts accusations that he was misshandling the virus outbreak a hoax ! even in something as serious as what we are going through people like you cant resist lying and politicizing tragedy ! you are scum !

mark it as funny all you like you disgusting lower than dirt lying piece of dog shit ! we are getting sick of ass fucked morons like you pointing fingers and making false statements !

 

[Osiris-ODS]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Yeah we know that now. My point was that I was able to see this coming as a lay person and the fucking idiot in the white house didnt. How could someone with access to intelligence reports not take action?

It says it right on the packaging. It's not unique to this virus. Doesn't protect the wearer, intended to prevent the wearer from spreading bodily fluid containing illness.

 

[yidnar]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Yeah we know that now. My point was that I was able to see this coming as a lay person and the fucking idiot in the white house didnt. How could someone with access to intelligence reports not take action?

he's doing a hell of a lot better than that stupid piece of America hating shit Obama did with h1n1 loser ! your boy was a disaster for this country ! i noticed we haven't heard jack shit from the girly boy lately !

 

[Asclepias]

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Yeah we know that now. My point was that I was able to see this coming as a lay person and the fucking idiot in the white house didnt. How could someone with access to intelligence reports not take action?

It says it right on the packaging. It's not unique to this virus. Doesn't protect the wearer, intended to prevent the wearer from spreading bodily fluid containing illness.

I bought mine awhile ago and had them in freezer bags. This is all I see.

3M™ Health Care Particulate Respirator and Surgical Mask 1860, N95 120 EA/Case | 3M United States

 

[Asclepias]

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Yeah we know that now. My point was that I was able to see this coming as a lay person and the fucking idiot in the white house didnt. How could someone with access to intelligence reports not take action?

he's doing a hell of a lot better than that stupid piece of America hating shit Obama did with h1n1 loser ! your boy was a disaster for this country ! i noticed we haven't heard jack shit from the girly boy lately !

Drumpf is an incompetent fuckup. Who are you talking about when you say girly boy? Pence?

 

[MadChemist]

I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

Most state are still dealing with a minimum of cases.

New York is getting blasted from what I read.

California has seen cases drop off.

many in New York are not practicing social distancing ! Quomo was just pointing that out !

He seems to be taking some strong measures to stop it.

The problem is that it looks the genie is not only out of the bottle...it's out the room and exited the house.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I put this in Politics because if I put it in health, few will see it. As well as politics of this virus was clouding my mind in the same way it has clouded all of our minds.
As mentioned before, my son is a Respiratory Care Specialist at one of the nations leading Children's hospitals and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist at a large metropolitan hospital/trauma center. When I say they are on the front lines of this, I mean they are on the front lines.
Up until Friday, I was not that concerned about getting it, or my wife or the two of them. Like most, I was comfortable in the knowledge that it is primarily a concern for the very old/folks with underlying illness.
That is no longer the case.
This weekend, all over the country hospitals are getting much younger patients that require life saving care - and they have no other illness. And the numbers you are seeing reported are not representative of the actual numbers. It is higher.
Like many, I scoffed at all of these restrictions the government was laying out. 4 states with "stay at home" orders. I thought this was over reacting.
Until I got a call from both my kids. Especially my daughter, upset and for the first time afraid and scared. "It is really bad here Dad, we are getting more and more and they are getting younger".
A 32 year old, who 48 hours earlier was at work, feeling a little funny. Last night he was on life support and fighting for his life. Add more to that. Kids also.

The situation is evolving. And it is changing in not a good way.
Take it serious folks. Don't wait until it effects you or someone you know. Change what you are doing now.
Thank God our government took this more seriously than we did.... I guess they knew more than us.




On a good note. The malaria drug is showing promise. Yesterday a 66 year old at the hospital was in critical condition on a breathing machine. He has received 2 malaria shots, is now off the machine and sitting up and talking. It isn't working for everyone, but it is clearly having positive results on some.

Good post. Strength is admitting when you are wrong. No one has been completely right on this virus. As long as we all keep adjusting to the new information, we will get through this.
It is those who refuse to find and deal with the truth that are our biggest problem.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Well. You, and most others, listen to these assholes.... The day I wait for an "official" to advise my moves; I hope lightening strikes my head

I didnt wait. I started worrying in the beginning of Jan. Even gave my daughters masks before they went back to college just in case.

Those masks do fuck all for protection. They're intended to prevent the wearer from transmitting bodily fluid to others, they're not effective as a prophylactic.

Yeah we know that now. My point was that I was able to see this coming as a lay person and the fucking idiot in the white house didnt. How could someone with access to intelligence reports not take action?

he's doing a hell of a lot better than that stupid piece of America hating shit Obama did with h1n1 loser ! your boy was a disaster for this country ! i noticed we haven't heard jack shit from the girly boy lately !

Is Trump doing as good of job as Moon Jae-in of South Korea?

 

[U2Edge]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Nope. Wouldn't have mattered who was in the White House, and wouldn't have mattered what they said. Once the dominoes started to fall around the world, our fate was sealed.
The world in 2020 is so mobile, nothing could have stopped this. It would have helped some if we would have tightened up our borders and restricted certain countries from coming here, but this would have only slightly delayed the inevitable.

Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.

As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.

New York is run by Democrats. Cuomo praised Trump. Cannot have it both ways. Russia has 300 cases. Why aren't you praising Russia?

1. Trump is the President and its his responsibility to protect the country from dangerous crises like this. He failed to act early which is why the United States is stuck in this mess. New York State and more particular New York City is suffering because of the population density there, its unofficial title as capital of the world where so much of the planets travel and trade goes through.

2. I have praised Russia in other threads, but Japan is an ally, democracy, diversified market economy, first world country with a large population, like the United States. It is many similarities to the United States and maintains accurate counts in its medical field. It also is very exposed to China given that China is its largest trading partner. So I thought Japan was the best example with which to compare the United States to show how Donald Trump has failed the country.

 

[Gdjjr]

The "flu" has always affected the young, the old, those with weak immune systems and sometimes others.
Why everyone is so shocked and acting hysterically is beyond comprehension.

 

[U2Edge]

No one was ready for this kind of crisis that will end up touching us all to some degree.

Thats only because the incompetent fuckup in the WH claimed it was not a big deal and a hoax.

Nope. Wouldn't have mattered who was in the White House, and wouldn't have mattered what they said. Once the dominoes started to fall around the world, our fate was sealed.
The world in 2020 is so mobile, nothing could have stopped this. It would have helped some if we would have tightened up our borders and restricted certain countries from coming here, but this would have only slightly delayed the inevitable.

Nope. Government action matters. Trump failed. Japan has only 1,086 cases. The United States has 32,000+. New York State alone has 17,530 and New York State is five times smaller than Japan in population. This is Trump's mess, the buck stops with him. The only question is how bad things will get. Hopefully New York state reaches a peak soon and then starts to level off.

As I finish writing this, the United States is now at 38,000+ cases and New York State is at 22,000+ cases. Japan still only has 1,086 cases. If New York State were a country, it would have the 6th largest total in the world now.

New York State has that many sickly people who are vulnerable to this virus ?? What gives in New York State and/or Cali for that matter ??

First large populations. Then with New York City, its the density of the population relative to available medical resources. Then being the unofficial capital of the world, it is very exposed to the outside world in a way other states are not from travel and trade.