I Want Republicans to Lose the Midterms

Not because I want to see Democrats win. Their agenda is destructive, but Republicans need to lose in order to finally get it through their heads that Trump is poison to their party. A month ago they were riding what looked like was going to be a historical red wave. Now, it's more of a puddle, if even that. The House will still likely flip due to redistricting, but by a much smaller margin. The Senate is looking completely out of reach now barring some tidal event back in their favor. Their reversed fortune is likely due to two elements: the Dobbs ruling and Trump's influence over the Senate primaries.

The Dobbs ruling is what it is. GOP voters have been open and honest about wanting Roe overturned for decades. However, I don't think anyone actually expected it to happen, including the GOP leadership, which is why it was such a shock and awe event. Even with Dobbs, though, the Republicans should still be riding a strong election wave, but they aren't. Trump's picks have been toxic to the electorate. Pennsylvania should have been a relatively easy hold, but Trump endorsed the most incompetent Republican candidate in the race and his campaign is a trainwreck. It's so bad he is likely going to lose to a stroke victim who looks and dresses like Shrek. Mastriano, Trump's handpicked gubernatorial candidate in the state who parroted The Big Lie and was at the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th, has been trailing his opponent in every poll. Georgia should have been the easiest pickup for the GOP, but Trumpy Herschel Walker can't form a coherent thought, makes things up out of thin air, and so far refuses to debate his opponent. In Arizona, MAGA Blake Masters is attempting to run away from his political record on abortion, countering his support for a federal personhood law, and it's blowing up in his face. GOP PACs have already started pulling money out of that race. Wisconsin is now also in jeopardy given Ron Johnson's admittance he was part of the fake Electors scheme. Even states like Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are showing to be more competitive than expected, but I suspect the Republicans will retain those seats in the end. Furthermore, this national toxicity has the potential to destroy several gubernatorial races. Kari Lake in Arizona is as tactless and crass as Trump and is losing her race, which would be a net loss for the GOP. Other competitive races like New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Maine, to name a few are being stunted by the overall environment.

Despite Biden's dismal approval ratings, poor economic climate, and incredibly radical administration, the Republicans look to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that's exactly what needs to happen. After these midterms are over the MAGA faithful need a strong wakeup call that blindly following their leader's guidance is destructive and toxic to their party and their agenda. If they emerge from these elections with anything other than a sound and disappointing defeat it may very well carry them into 2024 with Trump as their nominee and that will be the final nail in the coffin. According to polls, over half of Republicans still want Trump to be their nominee in 2024 and make another run at it and this is dangerous because he will get destroyed. Biden will be one and done, regardless of what he says. The party will never let him be renominated, so 2024 should be a strong presidential year for the GOP following Biden and the Democrats really have no strong bench to speak of. Sanders will be too old. Warren is an unlikable shrew. Harris is an imbecile and Buttigieg is milquetoast. They do have one formidable candidate, however, and that is Gavin Newsom. He's young (relatively speaking), attractive, and charismatic and if I were to make a bet today on who the Dem nominee will be it's him. He's the American version of Justin Trudeau and that's what's so scary about his prospects. The Republicans need someone who can make the strong case that Newsom's radical California values are a poor fit for the country and that case won't be made by Trump. His attitude, his antics, and constant negative press will overshadow all of these things and usher Newsom into the White House in a landslide and we'll pay for it dearly.

So yes, I want the Republicans to lose bigly. The Trump faithful will still be there, of course. Nothing will convince them they are lambs to the slaughter, but enough of the rank and file may finally realize Trump is destructive and relegate the remaining hold outs to the extreme wing of their party and purge them from having future significant influence. It needs to happen or the country is doomed in 2024.
Just curious what you think about Democrats crossing lines and voting for MAGA people.
 
First one had very little to do with actual infrastructure.

Second one was a complete and total waste of money. Is China on board? Nope. They currently have 50 new coal fired power plants under construction, and you are stupid enough to think that shit bill will save the planet.

Moron.
OK

Point out a single item that was not Infrastructure
You keep telling the lie
 
Not because I want to see Democrats win. Their agenda is destructive, but Republicans need to lose in order to finally get it through their heads that Trump is poison to their party. A month ago they were riding what looked like was going to be a historical red wave. Now, it's more of a puddle, if even that. The House will still likely flip due to redistricting, but by a much smaller margin. The Senate is looking completely out of reach now barring some tidal event back in their favor. Their reversed fortune is likely due to two elements: the Dobbs ruling and Trump's influence over the Senate primaries.

The Dobbs ruling is what it is. GOP voters have been open and honest about wanting Roe overturned for decades. However, I don't think anyone actually expected it to happen, including the GOP leadership, which is why it was such a shock and awe event. Even with Dobbs, though, the Republicans should still be riding a strong election wave, but they aren't. Trump's picks have been toxic to the electorate. Pennsylvania should have been a relatively easy hold, but Trump endorsed the most incompetent Republican candidate in the race and his campaign is a trainwreck. It's so bad he is likely going to lose to a stroke victim who looks and dresses like Shrek. Mastriano, Trump's handpicked gubernatorial candidate in the state who parroted The Big Lie and was at the Capitol Hill riot on January 6th, has been trailing his opponent in every poll. Georgia should have been the easiest pickup for the GOP, but Trumpy Herschel Walker can't form a coherent thought, makes things up out of thin air, and so far refuses to debate his opponent. In Arizona, MAGA Blake Masters is attempting to run away from his political record on abortion, countering his support for a federal personhood law, and it's blowing up in his face. GOP PACs have already started pulling money out of that race. Wisconsin is now also in jeopardy given Ron Johnson's admittance he was part of the fake Electors scheme. Even states like Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are showing to be more competitive than expected, but I suspect the Republicans will retain those seats in the end. Furthermore, this national toxicity has the potential to destroy several gubernatorial races. Kari Lake in Arizona is as tactless and crass as Trump and is losing her race, which would be a net loss for the GOP. Other competitive races like New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Maine, to name a few are being stunted by the overall environment.

Despite Biden's dismal approval ratings, poor economic climate, and incredibly radical administration, the Republicans look to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that's exactly what needs to happen. After these midterms are over the MAGA faithful need a strong wakeup call that blindly following their leader's guidance is destructive and toxic to their party and their agenda. If they emerge from these elections with anything other than a sound and disappointing defeat it may very well carry them into 2024 with Trump as their nominee and that will be the final nail in the coffin. According to polls, over half of Republicans still want Trump to be their nominee in 2024 and make another run at it and this is dangerous because he will get destroyed. Biden will be one and done, regardless of what he says. The party will never let him be renominated, so 2024 should be a strong presidential year for the GOP following Biden and the Democrats really have no strong bench to speak of. Sanders will be too old. Warren is an unlikable shrew. Harris is an imbecile and Buttigieg is milquetoast. They do have one formidable candidate, however, and that is Gavin Newsom. He's young (relatively speaking), attractive, and charismatic and if I were to make a bet today on who the Dem nominee will be it's him. He's the American version of Justin Trudeau and that's what's so scary about his prospects. The Republicans need someone who can make the strong case that Newsom's radical California values are a poor fit for the country and that case won't be made by Trump. His attitude, his antics, and constant negative press will overshadow all of these things and usher Newsom into the White House in a landslide and we'll pay for it dearly.

So yes, I want the Republicans to lose bigly. The Trump faithful will still be there, of course. Nothing will convince them they are lambs to the slaughter, but enough of the rank and file may finally realize Trump is destructive and relegate the remaining hold outs to the extreme wing of their party and purge them from having future significant influence. It needs to happen or the country is doomed in 2024.
Interesting and well laid out.
 
The Republican party as a whole is fascist, not just Trump. Trump is just the symptom of the deeper fascism.

Hence, patriots now oppose the Republicans.

It's normal and healthy to hate fascism. I know it's not PC to say such things, and that we're supposed to "understand" why fascists screaming about how they want all their opponents dead are just doing it out of "economic anxiety", but I'm not PC. Some things are so vile, they should be hated, and the current wave of Republican fascism falls into that category.
Provide an example of the fascism, pls.
 
Trying to violently overthrow the government in a fascist coup would be the big one.

And lying about that not happening would be classic fascist propaganda.
That's not fascism. It appears you don't know what fascism is.
 
A worthwhile thread. And stayed on topic with thoughtful replies for much of it.

For me, an independent (no party really wants me....too liberal for one, too conservative for the other).....and in my long voting career I have been all over the board on who I voted for. Locally, I vote for the sheriff, township super and clerk, the drain commissioner. I like all of 'em. They are all Republicans (it's rural area that is very very red. But good helpful people.)

In the current iteration of the GOP --state rep, congressinal rep, Senate, President ---I wouldn't give any of 'em any consideration. The Republican party has morphed into a Trump-cult and a WhiteyTightie gated community. They are for 'exclusion'.....not 'inclusion'.

But may not stay that way. And if they change for the better I would consider a Republican for statewide or national office. After all, I have voted maybe 50/50 GOP/Dem over all these long years. So I'm no idealogue.

Anyway, that is that.
But lemme comment on the thought quoted below:


I cannot ascribe to the 'we do not have a free exchange of information'.

In fact, I dismiss it with prejudice.
It is nonsense.
Never before in our American history have we had such a free exchange.
Why?
Because now there are so many more channels and venues to present information and be exposed to information.
And never before have so many of the electorate been able to access those channels and even put forth their own ideas on some social media venue.
30 years ago....we had broadcast channels, a fledgling cable industry, little internet. If you wanted to present your ideas ---well, you wrote a letter to the local news outlet. And they decided if it was fit to print.

Not so today. And I know you all know that.

And by the way, there is a tidal wave of right-leaning venues on the internet and on broadcast and in print. Witness Fox, Brietbart, Epoch Times, Gateway Pundit, The Hill, Reddit, Wall Street Journal, Chicago Tribune, 4Chan, and any number of rightwing social media sites. And the list goes on.

We live in blessed times. America is wealthier. Healthier. Our environment is cleaner than before....and getting cleaner. And we have an amazing menu of technological tools to help us daily.

We are blessed.
I think this is an exceptionally thoughtful comment, one worthy of respect. I’m not sure I would conclude by saying we live “in blessed times” — but Chillicothe is certainly correct we can count many blessings. This is a fine, truly independent statement of values.
 
TDS is soo strong in the op he wants to burn America to the ground. Smh and looks upon him in distain.

Trump broke the lying media and the left. He may be a narcicist but he did everything he could to keep his promises. It took covid and a harvest election from hell to keep him out. I am damn happy he stopped the left from taking SCOTUS. Had that hapoened we would be in a world of shit eben worse than now.

To the TDS mental Miinbats. I simply dont give a damn about your TDS.

I thank Trump for preventing a packed leftist.court.
 

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