I tolerate individualism

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I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
 
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I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
Moderation, in all things.

We either have a collectivized society or we don't. There is no half way.
 
I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
Moderation, in all things.

We either have a collectivized society or we don't. There is no half way.
There is always a balance between the needs of the individual and the needs of the society that individual lives in. What is the relation between Society and Individual

"Thus society and individuals are bound by an intimate and harmonious bond and the conflicts between the two are apparent and momentary. In a well ordered society, there would be lasting harmony between the two."
 
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I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
Moderation, in all things.

We either have a collectivized society or we don't. There is no half way.
There is always a balance between the needs of the individual and the needs of the society that individual lives in. What is the relation between Society and Individual

"Thus society and individuals are bound by an intimate and harmonious bond and the conflicts between the two are apparent and momentary. In a well ordered society, there would be lasting harmony between the two."

That sounds like compromise between an individual's freedom and society's own and compromise means someone has to give up something they wanted. I'm fine with individuals giving up there own liberty for society but not the other way around. I voted for Obama to end this right wing bullshit.
 
I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
Moderation, in all things.

We either have a collectivized society or we don't. There is no half way.
There is always a balance between the needs of the individual and the needs of the society that individual lives in. What is the relation between Society and Individual

"Thus society and individuals are bound by an intimate and harmonious bond and the conflicts between the two are apparent and momentary. In a well ordered society, there would be lasting harmony between the two."

That sounds like compromise between an individual's freedom and society's own and compromise means someone has to give up something they wanted. I'm fine with individuals giving up there own liberty for society but not the other way around. I voted for Obama to end this right wing bullshit.
If that's why you voted for him then you were sadly misinformed since he understands what you do not.
 
I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design.
Cuba would be happy to have you.

Constitution of the Republic of Cuba 1992
None of the freedoms which are recognized for citizens can be exercised contrary to what is established in the Constitution and by law, or contrary to the existence and objectives of the socialist state, or contrary to the decision of the Cuban people to build socialism and communism. Violations of this principle can be punished by law.
Article 62
 
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I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
Moderation, in all things.

We either have a collectivized society or we don't. There is no half way.
There is always a balance between the needs of the individual and the needs of the society that individual lives in. What is the relation between Society and Individual

"Thus society and individuals are bound by an intimate and harmonious bond and the conflicts between the two are apparent and momentary. In a well ordered society, there would be lasting harmony between the two."

That sounds like compromise between an individual's freedom and society's own and compromise means someone has to give up something they wanted. I'm fine with individuals giving up there own liberty for society but not the other way around. I voted for Obama to end this right wing bullshit.
If that's why you voted for him then you were sadly misinformed since he understands what you do not.

I voted for him because I know that lying is necessary in order to accomplish our goals. He says nice platitudes but it is just to,appease the average voter. After all, who would knowingly vote for someone who would make you buy insurance
 
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That sounds like compromise between an individual's freedom and society's own and compromise means someone has to give up something they wanted. I'm fine with individuals giving up there own liberty for society but not the other way around. I voted for Obama to end this right wing bullshit.
We are not at all surprised to see you voted for The Obama to end individual freedom and liberty.
 
I voted for him because I know that lying is necessary in order to accomplish our goals. He says nice platitudes but it is just to,appease the average voter. After all, who would knowingly vote for someone who would make you buy insurance
Someone who knows that that's a decent start to fixing the Free Rider problem in health care. Not as good as what should be, Universal Single-Payer, but it's a start.
 
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That sounds like compromise between an individual's freedom and society's own and compromise means someone has to give up something they wanted. I'm fine with individuals giving up there own liberty for society but not the other way around. I voted for Obama to end this right wing bullshit.
We are not at all surprised to see you voted for The Obama to end individual freedom and liberty.
He didn't vote for Obama. He's just enjoying himself.
 
I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design.
Cuba would be happy to have you.

Constitution of the Republic of Cuba 1992
None of the freedoms which are recognized for citizens can be exercised contrary to what is established in the Constitution and by law, or contrary to the existence and objectives of the socialist state, or contrary to the decision of the Cuban people to build socialism and communism. Violations of this principle can be punished by law.
Article 62

Why do all of my democratic friends agree with this
 
I voted for him because I know that lying is necessary in order to accomplish our goals. He says nice platitudes but it is just to,appease the average voter. After all, who would knowingly vote for someone who would make you buy insurance
Someone who knows that that's a decent start to fixing the Free Rider problem in health care. Not as good as what should be, Universal Single-Payer, but it's a start.

I totally agree with forcing people to buy health insurance.
 
I voted for him because I know that lying is necessary in order to accomplish our goals. He says nice platitudes but it is just to,appease the average voter. After all, who would knowingly vote for someone who would make you buy insurance
Someone who knows that that's a decent start to fixing the Free Rider problem in health care. Not as good as what should be, Universal Single-Payer, but it's a start.

I totally agree with forcing people to buy health insurance.
Works for cars eh? And houses, if you have a mortgage.
 
I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.

What a fucking idiot, our society is based on the protection of individual liberties, if you have a problem with that maybe you should move your ass to N. Korea where they believe like you do. Then you can see how your delusions work in the real world.
 
I voted for him because I know that lying is necessary in order to accomplish our goals. He says nice platitudes but it is just to,appease the average voter. After all, who would knowingly vote for someone who would make you buy insurance
Someone who knows that that's a decent start to fixing the Free Rider problem in health care. Not as good as what should be, Universal Single-Payer, but it's a start.

I totally agree with forcing people to buy health insurance.
Works for cars eh? And houses, if you have a mortgage.

I totally agree. What is your issue.
 
I voted for him because I know that lying is necessary in order to accomplish our goals. He says nice platitudes but it is just to,appease the average voter. After all, who would knowingly vote for someone who would make you buy insurance
Someone who knows that that's a decent start to fixing the Free Rider problem in health care. Not as good as what should be, Universal Single-Payer, but it's a start.

I totally agree with forcing people to buy health insurance.
Works for cars eh? And houses, if you have a mortgage.

I totally agree. What is your issue.
On that, I don't have one.
 
I'm going to be honest and just say what I really mean which is this. I find individualism abhorrent to a well ordered society. It's fine to have rights but those rights should never conflict with the overall functioning of society. Rights have to be carefully controlled, allocated, and regulated to protect society's overall design. That is just the way it is and dumb ideas about individual liberty are just not true. A fantasy concocted by early Americans. Should a person have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? I think they should but not if it interferes with the overall goals of society? I just see individualism as destructive to society and something that can lead to its destruction. Individualism is just society committing slow suicide.
There has to be a balance. Individuals make up society. You kill the individual you kill the society and any notion of forward progress.
 
There has to be a balance. Individuals make up society. You kill the individual you kill the society and any notion of forward progress.
You can pick off one here or there...
You can actually pick off a lot like the ones that are sheep. The other true individuals are what makes progress. Unfortunately you never know where these people come from so you have to tolerate the masses.
 
There has to be a balance. Individuals make up society. You kill the individual you kill the society and any notion of forward progress.
You can pick off one here or there...
You can actually pick off a lot like the ones that are sheep. The other true individuals are what makes progress. Unfortunately you never know where these people come from so you have to tolerate the masses.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - G.B. Shaw.
 

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