I Thought Social Security Was a Great Successful Government Program??

[rightwinger]

75 years and still going strong...

Right Wing Conservatives...."It will fail any day now"

 

[Titanic Sailor]

75 years, and even the folks working in SS have been sounding the alarm bell for decades..........

one fourth of all government workers do not pay into Social Security, so they could care less anyways.

 

[Care4all]

FYI claudette
SSI... although managed by SS, does NOT come out of the SS retirement monies collected from us....

I assume it DOES come out of taxes payed???

yes, absolutely comes from income taxes....

my point is that SSI expenses will not bring SS down or eat in to their retirement budget, which i think you implied?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Libs... always inventing new ways to steal your money.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

SSI comes out of general taxation, does not come out of SS. That is correct. Some of the key issues that need to be addressed are:

All Americans should pay into Social Security so we are all on the same page. Millions of government workers have never, and will never pay into the system unless the laws changed. Good luck with that, their lobbies will scream to high heaven.

The federal government can never borrow from those funds again, thanks Lyndon Johnson.

Once those two items addressed, temporarily increase wage ceiling to cover any projected shortfalls for the year.

The system is pay-go now, so you only get out what you paid in. If we can accomplish above, we can fix Social Security, and lessen the hardship of the Baby Boomer arrival.

Next issue.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

All pensions for politicians should be outlawed. They should only get Social Security if they paid into the system.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Libs... always inventing new ways to steal your money.

A record number of working Americans will pay NO federal income taxes this year.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

This is going to be Government health care in 20 years unless they start rationing care...


Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs - Yahoo! News

This is what happens when you try to run a progressive socialist program like social security or universal healthcare in a country with a central government whos powers are severly limited by a constitution and whos legislative system is set up as a constitutional republic.

It just doesn't work out well. Either you need to give the government total control or the programs will go out of control. If you do give the government total control you no longer live in a constitutional democracy.

Are you willing to give up your personal liberty for personal financial security?

A lot of American's were back in FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, and Woodrow wilson's days and that is how we got all the unconstitutional entitlement programs you see bankrupting our government and country today.

Live and learn...its time to turn back the clock and get back to the founding principles. No more big central government, bring the power back to the states, towns, and people and away from the centralized federal government.


RANT OFF.

 

[Old Rocks]

The government, especially liberals, rail on businesses for not paying a living wage to employees all the while the government gives nowhere near a living wage in any of it's entitlement programs like social security or welfare.

First, welfare is not supposed to be a living wage. It is supposed to be an existance wage, one which you want to get off of as soon as possible.

Social Security, if you have earned a good wage all your life, is a livable income. Provided you have no debts. And that is the key, to be debt free by the time you draw SS.

 

[Old Rocks]

This is going to be Government health care in 20 years unless they start rationing care...


Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs - Yahoo! News

This is what happens when you try to run a progressive socialist program like social security or universal healthcare in a country with a central government whos powers are severly limited by a constitution and whos legislative system is set up as a constitutional republic.

It just doesn't work out well. Either you need to give the government total control or the programs will go out of control. If you do give the government total control you no longer live in a constitutional democracy.

Are you willing to give up your personal liberty for personal financial security?

A lot of American's were back in FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, and Woodrow wilson's days and that is how we got all the unconstitutional entitlement programs you see bankrupting our government and country today.

Live and learn...its time to turn back the clock and get back to the founding principles. No more big central government, bring the power back to the states, towns, and people and away from the centralized federal government.


RANT OFF.

Social Security sure has worked better than the Stock Market for a lot of people.

We had a bunch of people that lost their 401-Ks through the criminal actions of Enron. They bought PGE and rolled all their employee's 401-Ks into Enron, and when the stock started plummeting, they froze the accounts. One of our Scoutmasters went from a nest egg of over 1/2 million to $15,000. And their was nothing that they could do about it.

I trust the government more than I trust corperations. And I note that the other industrial nations have universal health coverage, and pay far less than we do, for it. Not only that, they have better results. #37 in results while you are #1 in cost is not exactly something to brag about.

 

[The T]

I wish to hell we would stop the insane military spending we do and take care of the things that actually matter.

Except the Military is mandated BY the U.S. Constitution. This other shit however isn't.

You failed Civics, didn't you? You haven't a clue.

 

[uscitizen]

This is going to be Government health care in 20 years unless they start rationing care...


Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs - Yahoo! News

This is what happens when you try to run a progressive socialist program like social security or universal healthcare in a country with a central government whos powers are severly limited by a constitution and whos legislative system is set up as a constitutional republic.

It just doesn't work out well. Either you need to give the government total control or the programs will go out of control. If you do give the government total control you no longer live in a constitutional democracy.

Are you willing to give up your personal liberty for personal financial security?

A lot of American's were back in FDR, Teddy Roosevelt, and Woodrow wilson's days and that is how we got all the unconstitutional entitlement programs you see bankrupting our government and country today.

Live and learn...its time to turn back the clock and get back to the founding principles. No more big central government, bring the power back to the states, towns, and people and away from the centralized federal government.


RANT OFF.

Neither one of the parties actual desires fits that model though.
One party claims to be for that, however their actions say otherwise.

 

[keee keee]

This is going to be Government health care in 20 years unless they start rationing care...


Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs - Yahoo! News

This is how they will fix social security kill off the elderly and drop the life expectency rates to what they use to be. make the people die before they recieve any benefits. Any program the government runs gets so full of fraud, corruption, waste, incompetance, that it goes broke!!!! Name one that isn't? I'm waiting!!!!!