I thought Afghanistan was the "good war"???

[Contumacious]

Yeah, we get that... the problem is that President Hussein (of Iraq, not the US) was not a stabilizing buffer... he was the single most destabilizing force in the Middle East..

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally?

Why?

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Well, we could start with the Invasion of Kuwait.

OK , let's start there.

As you know, or should know, during the Iran-Iraq war Saddam was Bush's boy.

Kuwait took advantage of the situation and stole Iraq's Ramallah Oil fields.

Saddam asked Bush I whether he would allow him to invade Kuwait to recover his property.

BUSH I TOLD SADDAM THAT THE US DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN ARAB TO ARAB CONFLICTS AND GAVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT.

BUT BUSH I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART AND ATTACKED IRAQ.

Next subject, please.


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[Contumacious]

Yeah, we get that... the problem is that President Hussein (of Iraq, not the US) was not a stabilizing buffer... he was the single most destabilizing force in the Middle East..

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally?

Why?

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Well gee, let's see... He was a direct and overt supporter and proponent of international Islamic terrorism... ..

HUH?

Saddam was not a practicing muslim..........the only thing he liked to attack was *****.

No evidence that he was suicidal.

.SO STFU.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

"Was" is the key word in all this. Afghanistan was "The Good War" only when Hopey Changey thought that rhetoric would get him more votes in the election. Now it's suddenly "Victory is not the goal in Afghanistan." This President should be ashamed of himself for the way he has treated our kids over there. He just seems to be far too busy promoting himself through endless cheap Media Dog & Pony Shows to actually care about our kids over there. He has simply been AWOL when it comes to helping our kids out. It's all just very sad in the end.

Well said...

Of course, 'victory is not the goal in Afghanistan' for those who command US Forces... but such is not the case for those US Forces are fighting.

Hussein is not with us... he is decidedly with those who US forces are fighting; as are his domestic comrades. Now that is not to say that they have mutual interests beyond the US failing in Afghanistan... but to that point, Hussein's goals are precisely the same as those of the Taliban.

One can't prove it in fore-site... but hind-site will bear this out, incontrovertibly.

 

[Huh?]

Yeah, we get that... the problem is that President Hussein (of Iraq, not the US) was not a stabilizing buffer... he was the single most destabilizing force in the Middle East.

Then explain why the limitations placed on us by the Saudi's, other Arab countries and the UN in order to support our going into Kuwait.

 

[Huh?]

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted...

(See how easy it is kids? Simply reject false premises and they'll fold like a $2.00 tent, in fairly short order.)

Your delusions do not make for a concession from me.

 

[Huh?]

So your talking point is pointless. Got it.

Ah, perhaps to a degree...but only due to that which I was addressing.

Your original talking point, that Hussein was some sort of stabilizing factor, is indeed convenient to your addressing your original talking point.

Stay away from snow and mud; your habit of spinning your wheels will get you nowhere real quick.

Your lack of understanding does not equate to me spinning...carry on.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Si Modo - you still around? I was wanting to ask you what evidence you've weighed to bring you to the conclusion that Obama hasn't paid enough attention to Afghanistan. Was it that he increased troop levels by more than 100% since taking office? Was it his securing transit agreements with Russia? Was his failure to launch a nuclear strike or what?

 

[Huh?]

"Was" is the key word in all this. Afghanistan was "The Good War" only when Hopey Changey thought that rhetoric would get him more votes in the election. Now it's suddenly "Victory is not the goal in Afghanistan." This President should be ashamed of himself for the way he has treated our kids over there. He just seems to be far too busy promoting himself through endless cheap Media Dog & Pony Shows to actually care about our kids over there. He has simply been AWOL when it comes to helping our kids out. It's all just very sad in the end.

You keep making the same or similar post over and over and over and over again...I'll quote you...do you feel better now?

 

[Si modo]

Ah, perhaps to a degree...but only due to that which I was addressing.

Your original talking point, that Hussein was some sort of stabilizing factor, is indeed convenient to your addressing your original talking point.

Stay away from snow and mud; your habit of spinning your wheels will get you nowhere real quick.

Your lack of understanding does not equate to me spinning...carry on.

Then clearly articulate your point to claiming that Hussein was a stabilizing factor. It shouldn't be too difficult to do if one knows what their point is.

 

[Huh?]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally?

Why?

.

Well, we could start with the Invasion of Kuwait.

OK , let's start there.

As you know, or should know, during the Iran-Iraq war Saddam was Bush's boy.

Kuwait took advantage of the situation and stole Iraq's Ramallah Oil fields.

Saddam asked Bush I whether he would allow him to invade Kuwait to recover his property.

BUSH I TOLD SADDAM THAT THE US DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN ARAB TO ARAB CONFLICTS AND GAVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT.

BUT BUSH I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART AND ATTACKED IRAQ.

Next subject, please.


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Why you wanna go and try and bring reality into it?

 

[Huh?]

Your original talking point, that Hussein was some sort of stabilizing factor, is indeed convenient to your addressing your original talking point.

Stay away from snow and mud; your habit of spinning your wheels will get you nowhere real quick.

Your lack of understanding does not equate to me spinning...carry on.

Then clearly articulate your point to claiming that Hussein was a stabilizing factor. It shouldn't be too difficult to do if one knows what their point is.

Try and read some of my posts not addressed to you...you might find some substance in them if you are able to comprehend them...good luck with that.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Well I could... but that would tend to indicate that I am a leftist;

Ah because only leftists use such tactics????????

No... thus the qualifier "tend"... Such is not limited to Leftists; but such is the ONLY tactic of the left.

If you are no leftist - as you claim - then you are a living contradiction to your own claim.

ROFL... isn't it adorable when they try to reason?

Now my favorite part is how their heads nearly explode when you challenge their flaccid little assertions...

Hey NDIF... SPECIFICALLY HOW... am I a living contradiction to my own claim.

Odds are she'll ignore this challenge, but should she bite... enjoy the show.

 

[Contumacious]

Well, we could start with the Invasion of Kuwait.

OK , let's start there.

As you know, or should know, during the Iran-Iraq war Saddam was Bush's boy.

Kuwait took advantage of the situation and stole Iraq's Ramallah Oil fields.

Saddam asked Bush I whether he would allow him to invade Kuwait to recover his property.

BUSH I TOLD SADDAM THAT THE US DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN ARAB TO ARAB CONFLICTS AND GAVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT.

BUT BUSH I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART AND ATTACKED IRAQ.

Next subject, please.


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Why you wanna go and try and bring reality into it?

Let justice be done, though the heavens may fall.

.

 

[Si modo]

Your lack of understanding does not equate to me spinning...carry on.

Then clearly articulate your point to claiming that Hussein was a stabilizing factor. It shouldn't be too difficult to do if one knows what their point is.

Try and read some of my posts not addressed to you...you might find some substance in them if you are able to comprehend them...good luck with that.

Ah, the so often used, but no less ineffective and inane I-can't-explain-so-you're-stupid 'debate' tactic.

You're 'skills' are apparent.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally?

Why?

.

Well, we could start with the Invasion of Kuwait.

OK , let's start there.

As you know, or should know, during the Iran-Iraq war Saddam was Bush's boy.

Kuwait took advantage of the situation and stole Iraq's Ramallah Oil fields.

Saddam asked Bush I whether he would allow him to invade Kuwait to recover his property.

BUSH I TOLD SADDAM THAT THE US DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN ARAB TO ARAB CONFLICTS AND GAVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT.

BUT BUSH I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART AND ATTACKED IRAQ.

Next subject, please.


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ROFLMNAO... Kuwait stole Iraq's oil field? With what? The 5th largest army in the world? Iraq's claim to such has been in contention for the best part of a century...

Secondly, Bush never gave Iraq the green light to invade Kuwait...

Third... absent such, your argument fails.

 

[Huh?]

Then clearly articulate your point to claiming that Hussein was a stabilizing factor. It shouldn't be too difficult to do if one knows what their point is.

Try and read some of my posts not addressed to you...you might find some substance in them if you are able to comprehend them...good luck with that.

Ah, the so often used, but no less ineffective and inane I-can't-explain-so-you're-stupid 'debate' tactic.

You're 'skills' are apparent.

In other words you prefer to ignore the points already made.

 

[nodoginnafight]

ROFLMNAO... Kuwait stole Iraq's oil field? With what? The 5th largest army in the world? Iraq's claim to such has been in contention for the best part of a century...

Slant drilling

google it and learn something

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

ROFLMNAO... Kuwait stole Iraq's oil field? With what? The 5th largest army in the world? Iraq's claim to such has been in contention for the best part of a century...

Slant drilling

google it and learn something

Well sis, that ain't stealing... that is tapping... oil fields rest miles below the surface and if you can reach a field, you're entitled to that which you drill.

Anyone else notice how thoroughly FASCINATED the left has become with ANY other issue except the deception they perpetrated with regard to the US GWOT and and campaign within that war in Afghanistan?

LOL...









Subversives...

 

[Wicked Jester]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally?

Why?

.

Well, we could start with the Invasion of Kuwait.

OK , let's start there.

As you know, or should know, during the Iran-Iraq war Saddam was Bush's boy.

Kuwait took advantage of the situation and stole Iraq's Ramallah Oil fields.

Saddam asked Bush I whether he would allow him to invade Kuwait to recover his property.

BUSH I TOLD SADDAM THAT THE US DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN ARAB TO ARAB CONFLICTS AND GAVE HIM THE GREEN LIGHT.

BUT BUSH I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART AND ATTACKED IRAQ.

Next subject, please.


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Are you really that ******* stupid?
Oh wait, you're one of the "truther" morons.
Never mind!

 

[nodoginnafight]

Secondly, Bush never gave Iraq the green light to invade Kuwait...

It appears those with more knowledge of the circumstances disagree with you.

"Meanwhile, in Baghdad, April Glaspie, the US ambassador in Baghdad had a meeting with Saddam Hussein. According to the Wall Street Journal, which quotes a summary of the interview, Glaspie told Hussein that "the President personally wants to expand and deepen the relationship with Iraq". Concerning the dispute with Kuwait, she said: "We don't have much to say about your Arab-Arab differences, like your border differences with Kuwait." In mid-July, the Central Intelligence Agency warned the White House that Iraqi troops were being mobilized on mass along the border with Kuwait and that an invasion looked imminent, probably within a week. Nevertheless, on 31 July, a senior State Department official (Kelly) told a House Foreign Affairs sub-committee that "we have historically avoided taking a position on border disputes". Two days later, Saddam invaded Kuwait. "