I think the GJ’s Refusal to indict the assistant AG for throwing a sandwich at am officer is reasonable

[BackAgain]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

 

[Darkwind]

I just want to know what his insult was as he threw the offending footlong.

Eat Fresh, Muthg(R)RE*#@ $'er.

 

[BackAgain]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Lefty never pays. Never any consequences.
CLOWN WORLD

 

[martybegan]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

They should have just charged him with disorderly conduct, they still can.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

The "jury in my head is still out on this" but at this time I tend to disagree that nothing should be done.

How does a cop know whether or not there is a bomb (or whatever) in that sandwich bag? Or was it just the sandwich?

Well... it doesn't appear to matter... He threw something at a cop and cops' lives are endangered enough as it is. Plus, this sends a message to others that they can do the same... (also should go against the professional ethics we presume he had)

 

[elektra]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

She can be charged with a misdemeanor. No Grand Jury required

 

[okfine]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

Really? Well good for you.

 

[kyzr]

So now we know that GJ won't indict a hoagie.

 

[BackAgain]

They should have just charged him with disorderly conduct, they still can.

It would be fitting. But any criminal or criminal-like charges really don’t matter to me much in that case. No injuries. No dangerous instruments. A prosecutorial determination to refrain from doing anything in that case is acceptable to me.

But? again, it does justify the firing.

 

[Rawley]

Relative to this article, D.C. judges and grand jurors push back on Trump policing surge — The Washington Post

I agree that the offense was too minor to get indicted over.

But I fully endorse the firing of that Assistant AG for that very same conduct.

That said, the linked report is still a warning of danger. That the Grand Jurors may have reached a fair determination in that particular matter; but II see evidence that they and the judges mentioned (and so may more) aren’t overly concerned with justice. Instead, they might be expressing partisan political opinions, in many cases, as opposed to seeking rational legal determinations

Wherever possible, therefore, it would be a great idea if the DOJ would seek out other venues or jurisdictions.

Just as we don’t want a GJ to be a rubber stamp to indict people, regardless how of significant contrary evidence :: we don’t want any GJ to be a rubber stamp for “no true bills” merely based on biased, partisan political ideologies.

what makes it "too minor" in your mind?

 

[BackAgain]

what makes it "too minor" in your mind?

As I said above, the miscreant action of the childish Assistant AG, involved NO injury and NO serious risk of causing any injury. The item used wasn’t a rock. It was a frickin’ sandwich. And the nature of any item’s possible use as a “dangerous instrument” is usually judged by the circumstances:

A mere pillow can be a deadly or dangerous instrument if the circumstances show that it was used to smother someone or intended to be used in that fashion. But it wouldn’t qualify as a dangerous instrument if used in a mere playful “pillow fight.”

Unless a hotdog and hotdog roll is used to shove down a victim’s throat to cause injury or serious injury or death, it’s hard to see a hotdog as even a dangerous instrument.

Accordingly, the asshole former Assistant AG was justifiably fired, but was also (imho) granted a GJ determination in his favor for a “crime.”

 

[Rawley]

As I said above, the miscreant action of the childish Assistant AG, involved NO injury and NO serious risk of causing any injury. The item used wasn’t a rock. It was a frickin’ sandwich. And the nature of any item’s possible use as a “dangerous instrument” is usually judged by the circumstances:

A mere pillow can be a deadly or dangerous instrument if the circumstances show that it was used to smother someone or intended to be used in that fashion. But it wouldn’t qualify as a dangerous instrument if used in a mere playful “pillow fight.”

Unless a hotdog and hotdog roll is used to shove down a victim’s throat to cause injury or serious injury or death, it’s hard to see a hotdog as even a dangerous instrument.

Accordingly, the asshole former Assistant AG was justifiably fired, but was also (imho) granted a GJ determination in his favor for a “crime.”

You think we should be able to spit in the faces of police officers with no criminal implications? How about I spit in your girfriend's face as you are walking do the street? No criminal repercussions?

 

[excalibur]

A J6er was charged for throwing a bag of potato chips.

 

[1srelluc]

Yeah, it was a bit weak.....Some hickory shampoo would have sufficed.

 

[forkintheroad7]

She can be charged with a misdemeanor. No Grand Jury required

It's a she?

Wow.. i missed that. I was focused on other stories.

 

[g5000]

Well, the MAGA benchmark is a man who screamed at his fellow terrorists to kill the police on January 6 is not only pardoned by the president, but also hired by Bondi to work for the Dept. of Justice.

Tossing a sandwich at a Gestapo thug is worth at least a job as Bondi's chauffeur.

 

[BackAgain]

You think we should be able to spit in the faces of police officers with no criminal implications? How about I spit in your girfriend's face as you are walking do the street? No criminal repercussions?

Throwing a hotdog isn’t spitting in another’s face. The two aren’t analogous.

Lots of victims are relatively unhappy with the outcome of the cases brought against these perps. But our courts are already log jammed with some genuinely serious (alleged) offender’s cases. And therefore prosecutors have discretion in whether to even bring such charges.

Grand juries have always had the ability to tell prosecutors that some charges they present aren’t worth their time or the time of the court’s.

I don’t endorse that behavior in any way. But, having been a part of the criminal justice system, I believe that some cases aren’t worth their effort or cost of prosecution. Here, the asshole got fired. I believe that does suffice. We’re alllowed to disagree on these things.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Really? Well good for you.

Oh, you have a pic of Trump wearing his For The Liberal Press

hat!

 

[whitehall]

Judges and Grand Jurors have no right to "push back" against a policy they don't care for. It's evidence of the deterioration of the judicial system and the corruption in the media to try to make that point. Judges and Grand Jurors are required to follow Constitutional guidelines whether they like it or not.