I think arming 12 and 13 years olds is a GREAT idea!

[alan1]

I was watching a video of a kid who just turned 13 try to buy beer, lottery tickets, girlie magazines, and cigarettes. Of course, every time he was turned away as too young.



Then he went to a gun show and in a couple of minutes walked out with the rifle of his choice.



I think he could have bought those items if he bought the rifle first, don't you?

How many young men under the age 18 were in the US revolutionary war?

Just asking.

Different time.
And a lot of them died.


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I asked the question because I was curious, you ignored the question, thanks for nothing.

 

[Asclepias]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

 

[Katzndogz]

The only 12 and 13 year olds that can have guns are gang bangers. They need them for robberies and initiations.

 

[Luissa]

How many young men under the age 18 were in the US revolutionary war?



Just asking.

Different time.

And a lot of them died.





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I asked the question because I was curious, you ignored the question, thanks for nothing.

Why does it matter? You are comparing apples and oranges.


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[Harry Dresden]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

an 18 year old in the military can go to Afghanistan and be shot at and shoot back and kill someone.....but over here he is considered to immature to buy a beer.....funny how those age laws work....

 

[Asclepias]

I think in certain areas of the country where hunting is a common thing its ok for a child to have a shotgun but I still dont get the wisdom of a 13yr old being able to purchase it without a parent being there.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

No he can not. Again for the slow and stupid, Federal law bars anyone under 18 from buying a rifle or shotgun from a licensed dealer.

 

[flacaltenn]

We're all arguing about a "teaser video" that no one has yet seen.

Private sales and possession ARE REGULATED BY AGE in most states.
So unless you can show ABUSE and CARNAGE in states like Tenn where age is not as big a deal --
you're just getting all juiced up bout nuttin..

For instance..

Gun laws in Wisconsin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


WI statute 175.37[32]
Possession of a dangerous weapon by anyone under 18 is a class A misdemeanor. Giving/loaning/selling a dangerous weapon to someone under 18 is a class I felony.
WI statute 948.60[33]
Defenses to prosecution under this statute:
Target practice under the supervision of an adult
Members of armed forces or police under 18 in the line of duty
Hunting (either with an adult or having passed hunter's safety)
For hunting purposes, the following exceptions to the age limit apply, as specified in statute 29.304[34] for firearms with barrels 12" or longer.
under 10 may not hunt with a firearm or bow under any circumstances
under 10 can only possess firearm/bow in Hunter Safety class, or while cased/unloaded and under adult supervision while going to/from Hunter Safety class, or while under adult supervision while at a target range.
anyone age 10 or over may hunt when accompanied by an adult (within arms reach, both must be licensed, only _one_ firearm/bow between the adult and mentor (no hunter safety course requirement for the mentored hunter).
12-13 may hunt when accompanied by an adult and the child has successfully completed a Hunter Safety class.
12-13 may possess firearm when accompanied by an adult, or while transporting cased/unloaded firearm to/from Hunter Safety class, or in Hunter Safety class
14-17 is the same as 12-13, except Hunter Safety graduates can hunt and possess firearms (rifles/shotguns) without adult supervision.

 

[Asclepias]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

No he can not. Again for the slow and stupid, Federal law bars anyone under 18 from buying a rifle or shotgun from a licensed dealer.

Not arguing but are you saying the narrator in the video is mis-informed? He specifically said the purchase was legal.

 

[kwc57]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

Allow me to introduce you to some fine literature you evidently are unaware of.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

 

[Asclepias]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

Allow me to introduce you to some fine literature you evidently are unaware of.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

I'm aware of the constitution. What was your point? Is there a specific quote that has anything to do with my post?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I was watching a video of a kid who just turned 13 try to buy beer, lottery tickets, girlie magazines, and cigarettes. Of course, every time he was turned away as too young.

Then he went to a gun show and in a couple of minutes walked out with the rifle of his choice.

I think he could have bought those items if he bought the rifle first, don't you?

Are you pms'ing, eating mint n' chip ice cream and watching Michael Moore flicks again?

BTW - Whether a 13-year-old can buy girlie magazines, lottery tix, cigs has no bearing on the actual debate of whether 13-year-olds should be entrusted with guns.

 

[rdean]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

No he can not. Again for the slow and stupid, Federal law bars anyone under 18 from buying a rifle or shotgun from a licensed dealer.

Not arguing but are you saying the narrator in the video is mis-informed? He specifically said the purchase was legal.

Because HBO is in the habit of posting lies? They sued for the right to lie. Oh wait, that would be "Fox News". OK, so it wasn't a lie.

 

[kwc57]

Puts things in perspective. He cant buy a lottery ticket legally but he can buy a device that can kill someone and do it legally.

Allow me to introduce you to some fine literature you evidently are unaware of.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

I'm aware of the constitution. What was your point? Is there a specific quote that has anything to do with my post?

Wow, I led you to water AND I have to show you how to drink. The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Buying a lottery ticket isn't.

 

[Asclepias]

Allow me to introduce you to some fine literature you evidently are unaware of.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

I'm aware of the constitution. What was your point? Is there a specific quote that has anything to do with my post?

Wow, I led you to water AND I have to show you how to drink. The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Buying a lottery ticket isn't.

What does that have to do with a 13 year old being able to buy a weapon capable of killing someone and not being able to purchase a lottery ticket? Last I heard you had to be 18 to vote and be considered an adult.

Regardless of it being a right or not it still puts things in perspective that this can happen.

 

[kwc57]

I'm aware of the constitution. What was your point? Is there a specific quote that has anything to do with my post?

Wow, I led you to water AND I have to show you how to drink. The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Buying a lottery ticket isn't.

What does that have to do with a 13 year old being able to buy a weapon capable of killing someone and not being able to purchase a lottery ticket? Last I heard you had to be 18 to vote and be considered an adult.

Regardless of it being a right or not it still puts things in perspective that this can happen.

I've danced with you before and as I now recall, you have two left feet. You'll have to find another willing partner to pity your abilities as you are unwilling or worse, unable to employee common sense. Good day.

 

[Asclepias]

Wow, I led you to water AND I have to show you how to drink. The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Buying a lottery ticket isn't.

What does that have to do with a 13 year old being able to buy a weapon capable of killing someone and not being able to purchase a lottery ticket? Last I heard you had to be 18 to vote and be considered an adult.

Regardless of it being a right or not it still puts things in perspective that this can happen.

I've danced with you before and as I now recall, you have two left feet. You'll have to find another willing partner to pity your abilities as you are unwilling or worse, unable to employee common sense. Good day.

Dont be sore you assumed i was saying something and you didn't have the intellect to inquire about it instead of posting your stupid post. Lesson for the day is to make sure you know what you are talking about before you assign some random meaning to someone elses words.

 

[flacaltenn]

I'm aware of the constitution. What was your point? Is there a specific quote that has anything to do with my post?

Wow, I led you to water AND I have to show you how to drink. The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Buying a lottery ticket isn't.

What does that have to do with a 13 year old being able to buy a weapon capable of killing someone and not being able to purchase a lottery ticket? Last I heard you had to be 18 to vote and be considered an adult.

Regardless of it being a right or not it still puts things in perspective that this can happen.

I will wager that when the piece airs --- we can answer some questions like.....

1) What STATE did this occur in?

2) Was this a REAL Gun Show or just some random rural ad hoc flea market meetup?

3) If it was a Gun Show --- then did the kid buy his OWN TICKET and waltz right in? Because all minors must be escorted by an adult at these shows.. No vendor wants juveniles running amok and fondling their expensive goods.

Given the production company -- this is more likely than not to be at least as fabricated as the NBC crew who planted pyro charges in the pickup truck gas tank to get their "documentary" footage..

Any bets??

 

[whitehall]

You gotta stop watching videos about 13 year old children.

 

[kwc57]

What does that have to do with a 13 year old being able to buy a weapon capable of killing someone and not being able to purchase a lottery ticket? Last I heard you had to be 18 to vote and be considered an adult.

Regardless of it being a right or not it still puts things in perspective that this can happen.

I've danced with you before and as I now recall, you have two left feet. You'll have to find another willing partner to pity your abilities as you are unwilling or worse, unable to employee common sense. Good day.

Dont be sore you assumed i was saying something and you didn't have the intellect to inquire about it instead of posting your stupid post. Lesson for the day is to make sure you know what you are talking about before you assign some random meaning to someone elses words.

Not sore at all. I'd point you back to your original post that I responded to to help clear up your confusion, but you obviously aren't intelligent enough to find your way there or to understand now what you didn't understand then. It's gotta suck to always be the clueless guy in the room who thinks he's way smarter than everyone else when he isn't. Cheers.