I think actual democracy can still be saved.

[Raynine]

the last election was not "rigged" and this one is not either.

accepting "democracy" or "republic" or "consent of the governed" writ large means that maga is a minority and will not rule.

https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/1984/quotes/theme/manipulation-of-history/

 

[GLASNOST]

I think actual democracy can still be saved.​

What the fuck are you talking about? Democracy is already dead in the US. It can be brought back (if Trump wins) but it cannot be saved. You've got to start from scratch and probably draw up a new Constitution.

 

[rampart]

What the fuck are you talking about? Democracy is already dead in the US. It can be brought back (if Trump wins) but it cannot be saved. You've got to start from scratch and probably draw up a new Constitution.

a supreme court recognition that corporations are not people with rights and such would help, but "starting from scratch/ not necessary.

 

[Raynine]

What the fuck are you talking about? Democracy is already dead in the US. It can be brought back (if Trump wins) but it cannot be saved. You've got to start from scratch and probably draw up a new Constitution.

I want to be optimistic. I don't want to give it up yet. I want to have faith in the people.

 

[GLASNOST]

What the fuck are you talking about? Democracy is already dead in the US. It can be brought back (if Trump wins) but it cannot be saved. You've got to start from scratch and probably draw up a new Constitution.

..... "starting from scratch/ not necessary.

It would be nice if you are right, but I don't think so. There are tons of loopholes and interpretative grey points. I vote for a completely new one.

 

[GLASNOST]

I want to be optimistic.

So would I.

I don't want to give it up yet.

It's gone.

I want to have faith in the people.

Yes, and it will be a different breed of people who can create a new one.

 

[BackAgain]

Yet it is Republicans attacking our democracy

We aren’t a democracy. And it s the Democrap Party which is a threat to the democratic processes we use. Just ask Potato.

Spreading misinformation about the free press, spreading misinformation on our voting process, attacking our Capitol to stop the certification of a valid election

The misinformation and disinformation about your aparartchik MSM is from you when you deny their active partisan reporting. The voting process is actively damaged by Democrap Party policies.
And it was a relative handful of folks who “attacked” the Capitol.

Leftwhiner just can’t be honest.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Real Democracy hasn't existed for thousands of years. The Greeks and Romans were the last true democracies. Women weren't citizens nor allowed to vote. What we call a democracy where all citizens can vote including women is a new concept that existed for over 100 years depending on the country.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yet it is Republicans attacking our democracy

Spreading misinformation about the free press, spreading misinformation on our voting process, attacking our Capitol to stop the certification of a valid election

How is it “misinformation”?

 

[Raynine]

How is it “misinformation”?

See post # 8.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

See post # 8.

What about it? I did Not ask for a history lesson. I asked a specific question

 

[Raynine]

What about it? I did Not ask for a history lesson. I asked a specific question

"Mezinformatsiya" is a tactic developed in the former Soviet union and used by the state to cloud the judgement of the people and prevent them from seeing what is actually happening. It is trick and once fooled few will ever admit it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

"Mezinformatsiya" is a tactic developed in the former Soviet union and used by the state to cloud the judgement of the people and prevent them from seeing what is actually happening. It is trick and once fooled few will ever admit it.

I know what it is. Now explain why our media is using this same tactic to shill for Harris

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Should I just be quiet and accept my fate as an ignorant, uneducated, wasted life and a burden on the plans of the smart people with advanced degrees? They tell me I am causing climate change and destroying the planet. Then they get on heavily polluting aircraft and magnificent cruise ships to visit foreign countries. They shovel exotic fattening food into their guts like royalty and paste early death into their clogged arteries like the slime that clings to the walls of Hell. You know, I don’t think I want to emulate these Kamala Harris voters. I got my eyes fixed before all the insurance companies drop me like the “untouchables” in India. Now I need to address that hernia. I’m going to need to stay as healthy as possible to deal with this end state idiocy.

I am also voting for Donald Trump again because I believe this coming election is too big to rig like the last one. I think we can still save genuine democracy. Let's hope so because it is up to us and the world is watching.

Kamala is surging with one group

 

[Raynine]

I know what it is. Now explain why our media is using this same tactic to shill for Harris

They are using that tactic because after decades of Great-Society dumbing down It is not recognized by many college-educated illiterates in America that have been brainwashed to hate America.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

What democracy? There never has been democracy. Just because people vote, doesn't mean it's democratic. A two party system is a joke.

You're free to vote any of the dozen 3rd Parties

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

They are using that tactic because after decades of Great-Society dumbing down It is not recognized by many college-educated illiterates in America that have been brainwashed to hate America.

Bingo

Many are waking up. Finally.

America is the best

 

[dblack]

Should I just be quiet and accept my fate as an ignorant, uneducated, wasted life and a burden on the plans of the smart people with advanced degrees?

Yes.

 

[Independent thinker]

Democrats don't believe in democracy.

To them, democracy is Democrats. If we don't elect democrats, democracy will be gone.

 

[GLASNOST]

To them, democracy is Democrats. If we don't elect democrats, democracy will be gone.

That pretty accurate. That is what they think.