I personally don't like a braggart, a loud boisterous person like Trump and neither do millions like me...

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but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond
Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA
look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better
person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden
will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to
know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Fantastic post, thank you.
 
I saw that segment with Neil Cavuto. Could you tell? Now he's seen such blatant bias everything said about Trump in the past is being called into question. And another Trump voter is born.
 
I saw that segment with Neil Cavuto. Could you tell? Now he's seen such blatant bias everything said about Trump in the past is being called into question. And another Trump voter is born.

And more will follow because the truly ignorant biased MSM will continue the glaring distinctions in how they handle with kid gloves Biden while doing all they can to bash the president... who probably for the first time in a long time is a person who WAS not a lifelong politician who tries to kiss everyone's butt, who is like me... foibles and all human...American...family man... loves the military and law enforcement!
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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The biggest issue I have with Trump is he is too honest.
He says what he feels.....like it or not.
He doesn't seem to care what people think about him.
This is something I don't like about him but something I can respect about him.
He's as real as you can get.
In a time where politicians are just used car salesmen....Trump tells it like it is without thinking about the consequences.
That is his strongest trait....but also what his enemies constantly use against him.
 
I personally don't like a braggart, a loud boisterous person like Trump and neither do millions like me...

I can understand and respect that. But Trump is a lot more than that as well. He can also be a very quiet, literate and thoughtful person when not being constantly attacked and trashed. He's also a very confident person full of true leadership qualities.

In the end, I hire a president for the JOB he does, his results in what he gets done, not his personality. I want a president whom I can like how he runs things, not in how I like HIM.

This isn't about "feelings," I don't care what he looks like, personality is irrelevant. Or at least secondary.

The man has accomplished an amazing amount, especially considering what he has been up against.

It just so happens I like him for the most part, performance wise and as a no-nonsense, straight up in your face non-PC ball-buster.

Joe Biden is just a return back to the usual cardboard cutout pressed suit bullshit politician.
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Setting yourself up for the "I never really liked him anyway" defense when you lose in November?
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Setting yourself up for the "I never really liked him anyway" defense when you lose in November?

You sound awfully confident about that....Care to make a donation wager on that?
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Setting yourself up for the "I never really liked him anyway" defense when you lose in November?

You sound awfully confident about that....Care to make a donation wager on that?
I do not gamble, especially not on the internet.
 
I don't give a shit about Trump's arrogant tweets or how boisterous he might be, this is the man that is by far best suited to stand up to America's enemies and defend this nation. Trump is the man I want sitting at the table with world leaders trying to get the best deals on my behalf, NOT Joe Biden. Trump has the economy and job market on its way back and is overseeing a record stock market again. Trump's America works for ALL Americans of ALL races.

This tough New York businessman, with an ego a mile long, is now working for us and is putting all Americans first. I for the life of me can't understand why Liberals play the "high morals" card against Trump when just about every Democratic politician in DC is a snake the grass.

TRUMP/PENCE 2020!!! MAGA!!
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Setting yourself up for the "I never really liked him anyway" defense when you lose in November?

You sound awfully confident about that....Care to make a donation wager on that?
I'm so confident I don't have to donate!
Remember Trump spent 40% less than Hillary did
Over the course of the primary and general elections the Trump campaign raised about $340m including $66m out of his own pocket. The Clinton campaign, which maintained a longer and more concerted fundraising focus, brought in about $581m.
PLUS more and more people are recognizing that the MSM wants Biden and so without having to promote via advertising,
THE MSM is helping gain more Trump votes.
Evidenced by
The joint effort of the Biden campaign, the Democratic National Committee and their fundraising committees raised $140 million in July, the Biden campaign reported, which is $1 million less than it raised in June.
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Setting yourself up for the "I never really liked him anyway" defense when you lose in November?

You sound awfully confident about that....Care to make a donation wager on that?
I do not gamble, especially not on the internet.


Oh brother....Can't even have a gentleman's bet, resulting in a donation to this site to keep it going? What a loser you are...
 
Braggart? What the hell is a braggart? You hate a President who brags about the greatest Country in the world? Would you rather have a president who whines about how bad he thinks America is?
"Would you rather have a president who whines about how bad he thinks America is?" We just had one for 8 years. His name was Barack Obama, the worst and most damaging President in modern history.
 
I don't give a shit about Trump's arrogant tweets or how boisterous he might be, this is the man that is by far best suited to stand up to America's enemies and defend this nation. Trump is the man I want sitting at the table with world leaders trying to get the best deals on my behalf, NOT Joe Biden. Trump has the economy and job market on its way back and is overseeing a record stock market again. Trump's America works for ALL Americans of ALL races.

This tough New York businessman, with an ego a mile long, is now working for us and is putting all Americans first. I for the life of me can't understand why Liberals play the "high morals" card against Trump when just about every Democratic politician in DC is a snake the grass.

TRUMP/PENCE 2020!!! MAGA!!
I agree obviously 100% with YOU!
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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You can post all the links and memes you want but your title left out "LIAR" and "TRAITOR".
How kind: "boisterous". Translation: rude, crude and cruel
Did you serve in Viet Nam? If you did, you're a sucker.
I have three brothers who are "suckers".
One came close to being a "loser".
Stop defending the indefensible and GROW A PAIR.
 
but we millions and countless more millions who just don't want to be harassed by less sophisticated, less intelligent people KNOW full well what Donald Trump not only has done, but what he has done IN spite of all the MSM throwing softballs at Biden while 95% of their efforts are to destroy Trump.
And this is becoming obvious to Trump haters like Neil Cavuto of Fox. I was watching moments ago and he is genuinely understanding NOW how biased the MSM. Case in point, he showed two glaringly contrasting pieces of the softball question to Biden and I'm quoting it exactly:
Now note...the First question to Joe Biden came from Atlantic staff writer @IsaacDovere who asked Biden to respond to reporting by the Atlantic: Question: "What does it tell you about President Trump's soul and the life he leads?"
Really? A supposedly "intelligent" hard nose, objective reporter asking Biden about Trump's soul?
Whereas what did HuffPost reporter S.V. Dáte.
"Mr. President. After 3 1/2 years, do you regret at all, all the lying you've done to the American people?" Dáte asked.

Now for the majority of you who are honest, sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and recognize the job Trump has done in SPITE of the attached explanation as to why the biased MSM is:
Evening newscasts 150 times more negative toward Trump than Biden,

What the MSM, pollsters are totally forgetting is the insults to people like the 50+million who are sophisticated enough to look beyond Trump's demeanor and like GREAT EMPLOYERS do we smart, intelligent and definitely pragmatic bosses of the President of the USA look at the job Trump has done and said..."in spite of his demeanor, etc.... President Trump has gotten the job done and is the better person to get the job done!"

Trump will win by a landslide because the MSM is against him BUT WE KNOW THAT!
Trump will win by a landslide because truly unsophisticated, juvenile behavior as exhibited by the MSM which in turn speaks for Biden will continue to back a LOSER! Those of us that look beyond Trump's peccadilloes and who are sophisticated and practical enough to know Trump gets the job done will re-elect Trump.
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Setting yourself up for the "I never really liked him anyway" defense when you lose in November?
/——/ No, the OP is just expressing his opinion on Trumps personality. I frankly, like his in your face attitude. BTW:
President Trump could be set to flip Minnesota, a state that has not voted Republican since 1972, in November because of civil unrest in Democrat-run cities and the economy, GOP Senate candidate Jason Lewis argued Saturday.
Minnesota Senate candidate says 'crazy' urban liberals driving people to Trump, could flip state red
 
I saw that segment with Neil Cavuto. Could you tell? Now he's seen such blatant bias everything said about Trump in the past is being called into question. And another Trump voter is born.

And more will follow because the truly ignorant biased MSM will continue the glaring distinctions in how they handle with kid gloves Biden while doing all they can to bash the president... who probably for the first time in a long time is a person who WAS not a lifelong politician who tries to kiss everyone's butt, who is like me... foibles and all human...American...family man... loves the military and law enforcement!
There are some lies so monstrous, so scurrilous, so outrageous that they cause a recoil. That's what's happening now.
 

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