I have seen the Democrat's version of Sarah Palin....

[Maple]

Let me know when he gets 40MM to watch his speech, 70MM to watch the debate, dismantles ObamaCare with a single Facebook posting and gets to #1 on Amazon

Sarah Palin is not a member of the GOP. She is simply another Internet blogger now.

Yes, but she scares the crap out of people like you every time she speaks.

Number 1 on Amazon and her book isn't out yet. I ordered 2, one for me and one for a Christmas present.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. It would be idiocy to deny Palin has a following. I can't see it myself, and it's NOT the overwhelming groundswell of support some people would want us to imagine, but it's a free country.
As for the crowds, I'd go see her if it was free. She's great entertainment.

Oh I agree - she does appeal to a certain segment of society and I think she and her target audience go together like peanut butter and jelly. And she can do no wrong among that crowd (except sexually). The more folks make fun of her ditzy, lame-brain ramblings - the closer these people feel to her. Because, of course, they too have been "persecuted" for their own ditzy, lame-brain ramblings. They are kindred spirits - lame-brained - but kindred spirits.

Maybe that explains it. It's a better explanation than anything I've come up with.
I don't hate the woman, but...well, the "but" is obvious.

Well, it's just my opinion, but it's an opinion I've formed after seeing a lot of it in action. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian who destests the way people have bastardized the faith to try to manipulate Christians politically. And I've met and gotten to know a lot of folks who are part of the evangelical right, who are Palin fans, and who can't seem to wrap their minds around "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's"

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I really hope after the 2010 elections things change and I have to stop reading posts like these... but I did enjoy palin!

Well after the 2010 election, what will change is the rubberstamping of socialist policy; the Hussein "remaking of America will be DOA and as a result, his destiny will be relegated to being the first black presidential failure to receive a vacuous Nobel Prize...

Which works for me... Limbaughs wish will have come true... and after 2012, the Conservative congress will repeal the socialist garbage he signed in his first year...

And that's CHANGE I can believe IN!

 

[RadiomanATL]

Let me know when he gets 40MM to watch his speech, 70MM to watch the debate, dismantles ObamaCare with a single Facebook posting and gets to #1 on Amazon

Dismantled health care.....?

You do know the term "Death Panel" is an embarrassment now as a reference to the republicans now..right?

You do know that as retarded as her posting was, it put the WH on the defensive, which changed the entire focus of the debate to one that was disadvantageous to the administration, and resulted in a large drop in public support....


right?

 

[VaYank5150]

Clearly... but you said the guy was the 'Democrat Palin'... I merely described Palin and stated that if Deeds fit that description, that I could get behind such a candidate; which I then qualified by asserting the unlikeihood that your comparison was accurate.

Sorry. I think you misunderstood. I was referring to the "I can see Russia from my house" and "Abstinence only education" bimbo part of Palin.

Yes... that's why I qualified the position as I did... Given that it was a certainty that you were speaking to the myth created by Palin's opposition and not Palin.

But let's try this, shall we?

Let's discuss the potential outcome of an education system which professes something other THAN Abstinence-Only...

Now it is a given that you will assert, that 'kids are going to have sex...'.

A position which neither I, nor anyone has contested... not the least of which being Palin.

Now given that it is a certainty that 'kids are going to have sex...'; does it serve reason that the professing that it's OK to have sex will somehow discourage more children to have sex, than the stern and unbending profession that it is WRONG for kids to engage in sex; which is taught through a sound curriculum that sustains that profession?

Take your time as this is a tricky one!


Anyone care to form a wager as to how she'll respond to this?

Please show me ANY cuuriculum that "teaches" kids it is OK to have sex. Until you can, then we are debating a partisan supposition on your part, which does not lend itself to meaningful debate.

 

[goldcatt]

Oh I agree - she does appeal to a certain segment of society and I think she and her target audience go together like peanut butter and jelly. And she can do no wrong among that crowd (except sexually). The more folks make fun of her ditzy, lame-brain ramblings - the closer these people feel to her. Because, of course, they too have been "persecuted" for their own ditzy, lame-brain ramblings. They are kindred spirits - lame-brained - but kindred spirits.

Maybe that explains it. It's a better explanation than anything I've come up with.
I don't hate the woman, but...well, the "but" is obvious.

Well, it's just my opinion, but it's an opinion I've formed after seeing a lot of it in action. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian who destest the way people have bastardized the faith to try to manipulate Christians politically. And I've met and gotten to know a lot of folkls who are part of the evangelical right, who are Palin fans, and who can't seem to wrap their minds around "give unto Caesar waht is Caesar's"

You know I agree with you on that. There's nothing more cynical and cowardly than using religion as a cudgel to gain power and money for your "side". A lot of people on here assert the Religious Right has the upper hand in that relationship, but I've always seen them as the pawns. And corrupting religion with politics is even worse than corrupting politics with religion.

 

[VaYank5150]

Let me know when he gets 40MM to watch his speech, 70MM to watch the debate, dismantles ObamaCare with a single Facebook posting and gets to #1 on Amazon

Sarah Palin is not a member of the GOP. She is simply another Internet blogger now.

Yes, but she scares the crap out of people like you every time she speaks.

Number 1 on Amazon and her book isn't out yet. I ordered 2, one for me and one for a Christmas present.

While I realize you are proficient in fearmongering, I believe in THIS instance you are confusing fear with outright laughter and Jerry Springer style entertainment.

 

[goldcatt]

Let me know when he gets 40MM to watch his speech, 70MM to watch the debate, dismantles ObamaCare with a single Facebook posting and gets to #1 on Amazon

Dismantled health care.....?

You do know the term "Death Panel" is an embarrassment now as a reference to the republicans now..right?

You do know that as retarded as her posting was, it put the WH on the defensive, which changed the entire focus of the debate to one that was disadvantageous to the administration, and resulted in a large drop in public support....


right?

Unfortunately you're right, and that's nobody's fault but the White House's. They let somebody else dictate the definitions for debate. Bad move.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Maybe that explains it. It's a better explanation than anything I've come up with.
I don't hate the woman, but...well, the "but" is obvious.

Well, it's just my opinion, but it's an opinion I've formed after seeing a lot of it in action. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian who destest the way people have bastardized the faith to try to manipulate Christians politically. And I've met and gotten to know a lot of folkls who are part of the evangelical right, who are Palin fans, and who can't seem to wrap their minds around "give unto Caesar waht is Caesar's"

You know I agree with you on that. There's nothing more cynical and cowardly than using religion as a cudgel to gain power and money for your "side". A lot of people on here assert the Religious Right has the upper hand in that relationship, but I've always seen them as the pawns. And corrupting religion with politics is even worse than corrupting politics with religion.

I ABSOLUTELY agree with you 100%

The seperation of church and state protects THE CHURCH far more than it protects the state. I believe that is exactly what gave rise to Christ's statement.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Oh I agree - she does appeal to a certain segment of society and I think she and her target audience go together like peanut butter and jelly. And she can do no wrong among that crowd (except sexually). The more folks make fun of her ditzy, lame-brain ramblings - the closer these people feel to her. Because, of course, they too have been "persecuted" for their own ditzy, lame-brain ramblings. They are kindred spirits - lame-brained - but kindred spirits.

Maybe that explains it. It's a better explanation than anything I've come up with.
I don't hate the woman, but...well, the "but" is obvious.

Well, it's just my opinion, but it's an opinion I've formed after seeing a lot of it in action. I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian who destests the way people have bastardized the faith to try to manipulate Christians politically. And I've met and gotten to know a lot of folks who are part of the evangelical right, who are Palin fans, and who can't seem to wrap their minds around "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's"

Well that's easily understood...

You're not a Christian, which you made clear in your screed:

The "unalienable Human Right endowed by God" is the right to serve God - period - end of list.
The fact that our forefathers had to overcome a religious predisposition to acknowledge the authority of the crown and the fact that they did this by pandering to the puritans by pretending God endorsed political principles is not surprising.

It still happens today - people manipulate the gulliable with religion in order to achieve their political goals.

THIS Christian has studied the Bible thoroughly enough to realize that ANYONE who tries to claim God endorses political objectives is NOT speaking the word of God.

Nor are you an American... which is a position sustained by your above premise where you confuse American governance with Emperical Rule...

Nothing particularly complex here...

 

[RadiomanATL]

Dismantled health care.....?

You do know the term "Death Panel" is an embarrassment now as a reference to the republicans now..right?

You do know that as retarded as her posting was, it put the WH on the defensive, which changed the entire focus of the debate to one that was disadvantageous to the administration, and resulted in a large drop in public support....


right?

Unfortunately you're right, and that's nobody's fault but the White House's. They let somebody else dictate the definitions for debate. Bad move.

Yup.

Palin, for all her retardation in other areas, is either lucky enough to stumble on to political brilliance sometimes, or is a cagey enough operator to constantly win the war of lowered expectations and then hit it out of the park.

 

[goldcatt]

I've got to run, I was up all night and home today with a sick little boy who's finally going to sleep. Which means I can get some too.
Catch you later!

 

[nodoginnafight]

Take care - enjoyed the chat.

 

[nodoginnafight]

You do know that as retarded as her posting was, it put the WH on the defensive, which changed the entire focus of the debate to one that was disadvantageous to the administration, and resulted in a large drop in public support....


right?

Unfortunately you're right, and that's nobody's fault but the White House's. They let somebody else dictate the definitions for debate. Bad move.

Yup.

Palin, for all her retardation in other areas, is either lucky enough to stumble on to political brilliance sometimes, or is a cagey enough operator to constantly win the war of lowered expectations and then hit it out of the park.

Well to be absolutely honest Palin didn't invent the "death panel" argument (or the phrase for that matter). She took it and ran with it and I think she has the ear of those who are susceptible to that line of argumentation.
No brilliance, caginess, or luck required imho.

 

[VaYank5150]

Unfortunately you're right, and that's nobody's fault but the White House's. They let somebody else dictate the definitions for debate. Bad move.

Yup.

Palin, for all her retardation in other areas, is either lucky enough to stumble on to political brilliance sometimes, or is a cagey enough operator to constantly win the war of lowered expectations and then hit it out of the park.

Well to be absolutely honest Palin didn't invent the "death panel" argument (or the phrase for that matter). She took it and ran with it and I think she has the ear of those who are susceptible to that line of argumentation.
No brilliance, caginess, or luck required imho.

Or rational thought processes...

 

[nodoginnafight]

Yup.

Palin, for all her retardation in other areas, is either lucky enough to stumble on to political brilliance sometimes, or is a cagey enough operator to constantly win the war of lowered expectations and then hit it out of the park.

Well to be absolutely honest Palin didn't invent the "death panel" argument (or the phrase for that matter). She took it and ran with it and I think she has the ear of those who are susceptible to that line of argumentation.
No brilliance, caginess, or luck required imho.

Or rational thought processes...

In fact some voters are actually adverse to rational thought process - we call them Palinites.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Unfortunately you're right, and that's nobody's fault but the White House's. They let somebody else dictate the definitions for debate. Bad move.

Yup.

Palin, for all her retardation in other areas, is either lucky enough to stumble on to political brilliance sometimes, or is a cagey enough operator to constantly win the war of lowered expectations and then hit it out of the park.

Well to be absolutely honest Palin didn't invent the "death panel" argument (or the phrase for that matter). She took it and ran with it and I think she has the ear of those who are susceptible to that line of argumentation.
No brilliance, caginess, or luck required imho.

I disagree.

While I do not think she invented the death panel argument, she is one of the very few who could have sent democrats into a spittle flecked outrage, stumbling all over themselves to point out how retarded she is.

No ear of anyone required. And the fact that she used facebook only helped matters.

 

[VaYank5150]

Yup.

Palin, for all her retardation in other areas, is either lucky enough to stumble on to political brilliance sometimes, or is a cagey enough operator to constantly win the war of lowered expectations and then hit it out of the park.

Well to be absolutely honest Palin didn't invent the "death panel" argument (or the phrase for that matter). She took it and ran with it and I think she has the ear of those who are susceptible to that line of argumentation.
No brilliance, caginess, or luck required imho.

I disagree.

While I do not think she invented the death panel argument, she is one of the very few who could have sent democrats into a spittle flecked outrage, stumbling all over themselves to point out how retarded she is.

No ear of anyone required. And the fact that she used facebook only helped matters.

I agree. So, will you please work with Publius to get her on the GOP ticket in 2012?

 

[RadiomanATL]

Well to be absolutely honest Palin didn't invent the "death panel" argument (or the phrase for that matter). She took it and ran with it and I think she has the ear of those who are susceptible to that line of argumentation.
No brilliance, caginess, or luck required imho.

I disagree.

While I do not think she invented the death panel argument, she is one of the very few who could have sent democrats into a spittle flecked outrage, stumbling all over themselves to point out how retarded she is.

No ear of anyone required. And the fact that she used facebook only helped matters.

I agree. So, will you please work with Publius to get her on the GOP ticket in 2012?

No thanks. She's a moron. Just because she can be cagey does not mean she isn't mentally handicapped in most areas. I don't want her running the local library, let alone some sort of national policy.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I disagree.

While I do not think she invented the death panel argument, she is one of the very few who could have sent democrats into a spittle flecked outrage, stumbling all over themselves to point out how retarded she is.

No ear of anyone required. And the fact that she used facebook only helped matters.

No ear required???? You mean no one had to pay attention to her????? Maybe you misunderstand what it means to "have the ear" of someone. It means that person pays attention to what you say. So you say she doesn't need anyone to pay attention to her to have political influence??????

I have to disagree.