I have never thought Hillary was going to go to jail.....until now.

[Freewill]

No, it's you who is the stupid one if you STILL haven't figured out why Clinton is a criminal.

A criminal is someone that has been charged with a crime.

Let me remind you of the last investigation:

So what?

What are you five? A criminal is a person who violates the law, whether caught, indicted, or put in jail.

 

[bendog]

She asked him to release any and all information he has. You guys laughed at it. NOW you're saying she should say it another way?

Ahhh, the irony. At most the FBI now has a fourth, or perhaps a fifth, email out of TENS OF THOUSANDS that has some classified link. As Comey correctly noted, no prosecutor wants to argue that this shows some INTENTIONAL dissemination of classified email. There must be some rationally found presumption connecting the sending of the emails to INTENT. The trumpbots tried arguing "but she intentionally hit the send button," but that is not the intent at issue.

The dissenting FBI agents believe they have a pay to the Foundation to play with Hillary, which is an entirely different question than whether she intentionally disseminated classified matl on a private server. The DOJ last summer chose not to prosecute. The agents didn't like that decision. Comey sent his letter when agents threatened to quit.

Rock and a hard place. As a director, his job was to say "don't let the door hit you, and don't ask for references." But, had he done that, the political effect was the same as sending the letter. It would have been "what else does the FBI have." He tried to soft shoe it by saying "additional emails that may be relevant."

His mistake was trying to have it both ways. As a boss, you never, under any circumstances, let dissenting employees decide. If you do, you've lost credibility with them and YOUR bosses.

 

[bendog]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

No one said anything about bringing false charges

Yes you are unless you can cite an actual crime that you say she should go to trial for.

The crimes have already been cited. You ignoring them Is literally proving point number 2 that i made

First you said no crimes, then you said what crimes. State what the crimes are.

 

[Flopper]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Or you're stupid enough to give in to pressure from House republicans, desperate to get a republican in the white house.

 

[Onyx]

What are you five?

Yes.

A criminal is a person who violates the law, whether caught, indicted, or put in jail.

While that may of been how it was defined in Ancient Rome, the US legal system defines a criminal as someone who has been convicted for violating the established law.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Or you're stupid enough to give in to pressure from House republicans, desperate to get a republican in the white house.

 

[hunarcy]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

 

[Freewill]

What are you five?

Yes.

A criminal is a person who violates the law, whether caught, indicted, or put in jail.

While that may of been how it was defined in Ancient Rome, the US legal system defines a criminal as someone who has been convicted for violating the established law.

Ask yourself, disregarding the tax evasion conviction, whould you consider Capone a criminal?

crim·i·nal
ˈkrimənl/
noun

1. 1.
   a person who has committed a crime.
   "these men are dangerous criminals"
   synonyms: lawbreaker, offender, villain, delinquent, felon, convict, malefactor, wrongdoer, culprit,miscreant; More
   

adjective

1. 1.
   of or relating to a crime.
   "he is charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage"
   synonyms: unlawful, illegal, illicit, lawless, felonious, delinquent, fraudulent, actionable, culpable;More

 

[Flopper]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

First of all, he didn't say he was going to re-open anything. He said he was going to review the material to determine it's significance to the investigation. He was under no obligation to tell the House anything until he reviewed the material to determine if it was of any significance. The purpose was of course to influence the election. This could cost him his job.

 

[Scorpion]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

First of all, he didn't say he was going to re-open anything. He said he was going to review the material to determine it's significance to the investigation. He was under no obligation to tell the House anything until he reviewed the material to determine if it was of any significance. The purpose was of course to influence the election. This could cost him his job.

Who puts their reputation, job, and potentially life on the line if they don't have the mother load?

 

[Wyatt earp]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

First of all, he didn't say he was going to re-open anything. He said he was going to review the material to determine it's significance to the investigation. He was under no obligation to tell the House anything until he reviewed the material to determine if it was of any significance. The purpose was of course to influence the election. This could cost him his job.

Dude that's a talking point memo


You know it I know it so quit the Bullshit



He 're opened the hillary case

 

[Flopper]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

First of all, he didn't say he was going to re-open anything. He said he was going to review the material to determine it's significance to the investigation. He was under no obligation to tell the House anything until he reviewed the material to determine if it was of any significance. The purpose was of course to influence the election. This could cost him his job.

Who puts their reputation, job, and potentially life on the line if they don't have the mother load?

Someone whose being blackmailed of course, a rather common occurrence in Washington politics. If Comey had the mother load, he would certainly have announced that he had significant information and the investigation was being reopened. What he did was a clear attempt to swing the election without releasing any information. Judging from the polls, it looks like he failed.

 

[Freewill]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

First of all, he didn't say he was going to re-open anything. He said he was going to review the material to determine it's significance to the investigation. He was under no obligation to tell the House anything until he reviewed the material to determine if it was of any significance. The purpose was of course to influence the election. This could cost him his job.

No chance at all that the man you folks on the left were calling a straight shooter and saying that the Republicans were wrong to criticize him is actually doing the right thing? You damn well know he already knew what is on that hard drive. He had told Congress the investigation was over, I heard him say it, and now he is telling them he was wrong because of new information. He is doing something foreign to the left wing, being upfront and honest. That is probably why you all are swallowing your tongues.

For your sake I hope they don't run out of money to pay for your trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[FA_Q2]

I'd give her an 80% chance of either winding up in jail or getting a blanket pardon from Obama.
There is an avalanche of torrid shit coming out about her, the DOJ & her foundation.

Trump has a greater chance of being charged with crimes.
Trump U
Trump Foundation (at least a half dozen laws broken)
Current investigations ongoing
And this new Tax scam.

Here is the entire scam in simple English:

Trump lost nearly a billion dollars so this supposedly allowed him to go at least 18 years without paying taxes.

Trump's casinos were in deep debt. Trump asked the people who held the debt to forgive it. That means they would just wipe if off the books. They would no longer expect to collect the money owed.

So that money that's wiped off the books is basically a "free gift". If a billion dollars is wiped off the books, and the people who you were supposed to pay no longer expect payment, then that is a billion dollar gift. Even if no money actually changed hands, it's still a gift of a billion dollars and it must be reported to the IRS as "income".

But Donald Trump reported it as a "loss". And because of that loss, he hasn't paid taxes in nearly 20 years. Do you see? He deducted someone else's losses.

There is no Statute of Limitations on Taxes. Undoubtedly, this will open an investigation. There will be a lot of explaining. And Donald Trump's lawyers advised against this scheme. They are in the clear. Trump is not.

I know this is more than likely pointless but in plain English what Trump did on his taxes is perfectly legal. That is a simple fact.

You may not like it - hell I do not like it. It is telling that in Trump's tax plans there were no indications that such a loop hole was going to be closed and clearly he knows about it but the fact remains that such a hole exists for business taxes. What you are talking about, the requirement to report such events as ordinary income, is for personal taxes.

 

[AntonToo]

Actually it quoted transcript from Baier's segment. Google is your friend.

WHO IS ACTUALLY THE SOURCE of that stupid quote?

Two FBI sources with "intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations.

Ok so there is no source identified and we should just trust to whoever is saying this.

In other words someone interested in spreading rumor about Hillary could have just MADE IT UP and you wouldn't know the difference.

AND SURE ENOUGH, CLAIMS ARE NOW BEING WALKED BACK:

Oops: Fox anchor retracts claim of ‘likely’ Clinton indictment after conservatives sites go wild

 

[AntonToo]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Or you're stupid enough to give in to pressure from House republicans, desperate to get a republican in the white house.

Is that really the realization after all these investigations keep turning up right about nothing on Hillary?

 

[Wyatt earp]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Or you're stupid enough to give in to pressure from House republicans, desperate to get a republican in the white house.

Is that really the realization after all these investigations keep turning up right about nothing on Hillary?

Nothing? For example who the hell can thurn $1,000 into $100,000 by just reading the paper?


.

 

[Freewill]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Or you're stupid enough to give in to pressure from House republicans, desperate to get a republican in the white house.

Is that really the realization after all these investigations keep turning up right about nothing on Hillary?

It is amazing she is able to have the establishment protect her throughout her life. I just wonder how much that protection has cost the American people.

Whitewater alone produced 15 conviction on 40 different crimes and Hillary skated. A draft indictment was drawn up but not served because she was the first lady and too big to jail.

Sad that the Clinton crime regime is still at it. What is wrong with democrats that she is the best they can do? And don't point out Trump the Republican establishment wants nothing to do with him.

 

[AntonToo]

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Or you're stupid enough to give in to pressure from House republicans, desperate to get a republican in the white house.

Is that really the realization after all these investigations keep turning up right about nothing on Hillary?

It is amazing she is able to have the establishment protect her throughout her life. I just wonder how much that protection has cost the American people.

Whitewater alone produced 15 conviction on 40 different crimes and Hillary skated. A draft indictment was drawn up but not served because she was the first lady and too big to jail.

Sad that the Clinton crime regime is still at it. What is wrong with democrats that she is the best they can do? And don't point out Trump the Republican establishment wants nothing to do with him.

Yea totally amazing, so much so that it is simply not credible.

 

[Flopper]

I've been thinking about this a bit. I think the best thing for this nation would be for her to go to trial. I wasn't certain for sure because this will create alot of anger and division for this nation but I think trying her gives the nation the best chance to heal on the other side.

Here is why:

1) it will show everyone that no one is too big to face justice.

2) it will make the left face the Clinton cancer among them and get rid of it.

3) it will calm the anger of the right

You dont bring false charges to calm people down

Yup and you don't reopen a case and announce it to the world, 11 days before an election unless something was really big.

Unless you testified to Congress that the investigation was closed and something came up to re-open it. If he didn't amend his testimony and inform Congress, he'd be guilty of false testimony.

First of all, he didn't say he was going to re-open anything. He said he was going to review the material to determine it's significance to the investigation. He was under no obligation to tell the House anything until he reviewed the material to determine if it was of any significance. The purpose was of course to influence the election. This could cost him his job.

No chance at all that the man you folks on the left were calling a straight shooter and saying that the Republicans were wrong to criticize him is actually doing the right thing? You damn well know he already knew what is on that hard drive. He had told Congress the investigation was over, I heard him say it, and now he is telling them he was wrong because of new information. He is doing something foreign to the left wing, being upfront and honest. That is probably why you all are swallowing your tongues.

For your sake I hope they don't run out of money to pay for your trying to defend the indefensible.

Again, all Comey told congress was that the FBI was investigating the emails to determine if they held any importance to the investigation. There was no reason to do this other than to effect the election results. Comey made it clear that he had no intent to release any other information before the election, so why issue the statement until he had information that is actually applicable? I suspect there will be an investigation of Comey's reason for issuing the statement without stating any supporting evidence.

BTW both sides have congratulated Comey when he issue favorable statements and criticized him when he issued unfavorable statements which goes to show that this is nothing but political bull shit which voters are certainly becoming aware.