I have an ulterior motive for posting this beyond the obvious.

[berg80]

Of Course Trump Bombed Iran​

President Trump’s attack on Iran is astonishing in its audacity, aggression and lawlessness. Mr. Trump ordered strikes in the midst of negotiations with a nation that posed no remotely imminent threat to the United States. He did nothing to prepare his country for war. Now he’s offering a dizzying array of rationales and objectives, caught in a maelstrom of his own making.

Beyond breaking with precedent, Mr. Trump also broke with himself. In three straight presidential campaigns, he criticized American military adventures in the Middle East, relying on this stance to distinguish his “America First” mantra from rival Republicans and Democrats alike. “I’m not going to start wars,” he vowed on election night in 2024. “I’m going to stop wars.”

Yet for all its Trumpian characteristics, this war is the logical conclusion of how the United States has long dealt with Iran. For decades, presidents have depicted the Islamic Republic not just as a pernicious presence in the Middle East but also as an intolerable danger to the United States that no diplomatic deal could redress. When politicians inflate a threat and stigmatize peaceful means of handling it, an enterprising leader will one day reach for a radical solution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/iran-trump-war-foreign-policy.html

What is the ulterior motive? Glad you asked. The article was written by..........

Mr. Malley, a lecturer at the Yale Jackson School, served as U.S. special envoy for Iran from 2021 to 2023. Mr. Wertheim is a historian of U.S. foreign policy and an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

trump devotees will likely disregard the opinions of these two as pointy headed liberals, as they do many academics. Who cares about the opinions of these guys when the trump government is being lead by foreign policy giants like the former alcoholic and host of a weekend infotainment show at Fox?

More to the point, aside from being Don's son-in-law and golfing buddy, what expertise did Jared and Steve bring to the negotiating table with Iran? Are they really "all the best people" or people possessing more of the same qualities Don looks for in all subordinates? Unquestioning obedience. Are we to believe, with war in the balance, that a couple of real estate developers gave the US and the world the best chance to avoid another armed conflict in the ME?

Operation Epic Fury, as the administration named its Iran venture, is another matter altogether. The self-appointed president of peace has turned into an emboldened warmaker. This time, he adopted grandiose objectives, including annihilating Iran’s entire military arsenal and threatening the regime to the point of overthrow. The war promptly escalated into a regionwide confrontation that has cost American lives — the predictable product of giving Iran every incentive to retaliate. One struggles to imagine any of Mr. Trump’s predecessors so brazenly and confusedly rolling the dice.

Rolling the dice is an apt description of what Don did. Unilaterally. Unless you count the discussions he had with Bebe. A fellow war monger with everything to gain and not much to lose from this war from a political standpoint. In that regard they're two peas in a pod.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Are they really "all the best people" or people possessing more of the same qualities Don looks for in all subordinates?

Yes. All presidential appointments have to be loyal to the president who appointed them. Wake up! But, are they the best people for the task? Our governing system does not guarantee anything like that.

Maybe you and the brilliant opinionator have heard that the Constitution is not perfect, but it's better than anything other. Does that mean anything to anyone but me?

Read my manifesto.

 

[kyzr]

Of Course Trump Bombed Iran​

trump devotees will likely disregard the opinions of these two as pointy headed liberals, as they do many academics. Who cares about the opinions of these guys when the trump government is being lead by foreign policy giants like the former alcoholic and host of a weekend infotainment show at Fox?

Hegseth does not formulate foreign policy dumbo. Hegseth directs the US military to implement US foreign policy.
Marco Rubio formulates US foreign policy via discussions with President Trump..

More to the point, aside from being Don's son-in-law and golfing buddy, what expertise did Jared and Steve bring to the negotiating table with Iran? Are they really "all the best people" or people possessing more of the same qualities Don looks for in all subordinates? Unquestioning obedience. Are we to believe, with war in the balance, that a couple of real estate developers gave the US and the world the best chance to avoid another armed conflict in the ME?

Jared Kushner also played a key role in negotiating agreements like the Abraham Accords related to the normalization of relations between Israel and Morocco, as well as agreements with Sudan. These negotiations were part of broader efforts to establish diplomatic ties between Israel and several Arab nations.

Operation Epic Fury, as the administration named its Iran venture, is another matter altogether. The self-appointed president of peace has turned into an emboldened war-maker. This time, he adopted grandiose objectives, including annihilating Iran’s entire military arsenal and threatening the regime to the point of overthrow. The war promptly escalated into a region-wide confrontation that has cost American lives — the predictable product of giving Iran every incentive to retaliate. One struggles to imagine any of Mr. Trump’s predecessors so brazenly and confusedly rolling the dice.

Iran was on the verge of possessing nuclear weapons because Mr. Trump's predecessors refused to de-fang Iran.

Rolling the dice is an apt description of what Don did. Unilaterally. Unless you count the discussions he had with Bebe. A fellow war monger with everything to gain and not much to lose from this war from a political standpoint. In that regard they're two peas in a pod.

If Trump succeeds in getting an Iranian regime change from the religious fanatics currently leading Iran to a more responsible secular government, that is a win. UnAmerican Democrats always side with the terrorists.

 

[Auld Phart]

Of Course Trump Bombed Iran​

President Trump’s attack on Iran is astonishing in its audacity, aggression and lawlessness. Mr. Trump ordered strikes in the midst of negotiations with a nation that posed no remotely imminent threat to the United States. He did nothing to prepare his country for war. Now he’s offering a dizzying array of rationales and objectives, caught in a maelstrom of his own making.

Beyond breaking with precedent, Mr. Trump also broke with himself. In three straight presidential campaigns, he criticized American military adventures in the Middle East, relying on this stance to distinguish his “America First” mantra from rival Republicans and Democrats alike. “I’m not going to start wars,” he vowed on election night in 2024. “I’m going to stop wars.”

Yet for all its Trumpian characteristics, this war is the logical conclusion of how the United States has long dealt with Iran. For decades, presidents have depicted the Islamic Republic not just as a pernicious presence in the Middle East but also as an intolerable danger to the United States that no diplomatic deal could redress. When politicians inflate a threat and stigmatize peaceful means of handling it, an enterprising leader will one day reach for a radical solution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/iran-trump-war-foreign-policy.html

What is the ulterior motive? Glad you asked. The article was written by..........

Mr. Malley, a lecturer at the Yale Jackson School, served as U.S. special envoy for Iran from 2021 to 2023. Mr. Wertheim is a historian of U.S. foreign policy and an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

trump devotees will likely disregard the opinions of these two as pointy headed liberals, as they do many academics. Who cares about the opinions of these guys when the trump government is being lead by foreign policy giants like the former alcoholic and host of a weekend infotainment show at Fox?

More to the point, aside from being Don's son-in-law and golfing buddy, what expertise did Jared and Steve bring to the negotiating table with Iran? Are they really "all the best people" or people possessing more of the same qualities Don looks for in all subordinates? Unquestioning obedience. Are we to believe, with war in the balance, that a couple of real estate developers gave the US and the world the best chance to avoid another armed conflict in the ME?

Operation Epic Fury, as the administration named its Iran venture, is another matter altogether. The self-appointed president of peace has turned into an emboldened warmaker. This time, he adopted grandiose objectives, including annihilating Iran’s entire military arsenal and threatening the regime to the point of overthrow. The war promptly escalated into a regionwide confrontation that has cost American lives — the predictable product of giving Iran every incentive to retaliate. One struggles to imagine any of Mr. Trump’s predecessors so brazenly and confusedly rolling the dice.

Rolling the dice is an apt description of what Don did. Unilaterally. Unless you count the discussions he had with Bebe. A fellow war monger with everything to gain and not much to lose from this war from a political standpoint. In that regard they're two peas in a pod.

Beyond breaking with precedent,

like rolling over and playing dead, like his predecessors?

 

[Lesh]

Yes. All presidential appointments have to be loyal to the president who appointed them. Wake up! But, are they the best people for the task? Our governing system does not guarantee anything like that.

Maybe you and the brilliant opinionator have heard that the Constitution is not perfect, but it's better than anything other. Does that mean anything to anyone but me?

Read my manifesto.


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Loyal yes

Toadies.. no

 

[berg80]

Yes. All presidential appointments have to be loyal to the president who appointed them. Wake up!

Not at the cost of competence.

An Extraordinary President and His Remarkable Cabinet​

An Extraordinary President and His Remarkable Cabinet

An interview with Doris Kearns Goodwin about Lincoln's Team of Rivals Spring 2006, Vol. 38, No. 1 By Ellen Fried Courtesy Simon & Schuster In 1860, prairie lawyer and former one-term congressman Abraham Lincoln stunned the country by prevailing over three prominent rivals—William H. Seward...

www.archives.gov

Lincoln put together a powerhouse cabinet of people with strong views who would challenge his. Because he had confidence in his own knowledge and ability to debate issues based on the facts. Enough confidence to recognize he wasn't necessarily always the smartest guy in the room with the best idea.

trump hates being challenged because he's insecure about the basis for his beliefs. Rightly so since his head is full of horseshit, misinformation, and lies.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Not at the cost of competence.

An Extraordinary President and His Remarkable Cabinet​

An Extraordinary President and His Remarkable Cabinet

An interview with Doris Kearns Goodwin about Lincoln's Team of Rivals Spring 2006, Vol. 38, No. 1 By Ellen Fried Courtesy Simon & Schuster In 1860, prairie lawyer and former one-term congressman Abraham Lincoln stunned the country by prevailing over three prominent rivals—William H. Seward...

www.archives.gov

Lincoln put together a powerhouse cabinet of people with strong views who would challenge his. Because he had confidence in his own knowledge and ability to debate issues based on the facts. Enough confidence to recognize he wasn't necessarily always the smartest guy in the room with the best idea.

trump hates being challenged because he's insecure about the basis for his beliefs. Rightly so since his head is full of horseshit, misinformation, and lies.

berg how come your useless party could not beat this conman,felon,dictator,lousy human being,twice?.....is there any other names i missed?...

 

[Lesh]

berg how come your useless party could not beat this conman,felon,dictator,lousy human being,twice?.....is there any other names i missed?...

Because eggs cost to much

 

[Harry Dresden]

Because eggs cost to much

great answer lesh....dam they said you were smart....

 

[SaxonJackson]

Of Course Trump Bombed Iran​

President Trump’s attack on Iran is astonishing in its audacity, aggression and lawlessness. Mr. Trump ordered strikes in the midst of negotiations with a nation that posed no remotely imminent threat to the United States. He did nothing to prepare his country for war. Now he’s offering a dizzying array of rationales and objectives, caught in a maelstrom of his own making.

Beyond breaking with precedent, Mr. Trump also broke with himself. In three straight presidential campaigns, he criticized American military adventures in the Middle East, relying on this stance to distinguish his “America First” mantra from rival Republicans and Democrats alike. “I’m not going to start wars,” he vowed on election night in 2024. “I’m going to stop wars.”

Yet for all its Trumpian characteristics, this war is the logical conclusion of how the United States has long dealt with Iran. For decades, presidents have depicted the Islamic Republic not just as a pernicious presence in the Middle East but also as an intolerable danger to the United States that no diplomatic deal could redress. When politicians inflate a threat and stigmatize peaceful means of handling it, an enterprising leader will one day reach for a radical solution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/iran-trump-war-foreign-policy.html

What is the ulterior motive? Glad you asked. The article was written by..........

Mr. Malley, a lecturer at the Yale Jackson School, served as U.S. special envoy for Iran from 2021 to 2023. Mr. Wertheim is a historian of U.S. foreign policy and an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

trump devotees will likely disregard the opinions of these two as pointy headed liberals, as they do many academics. Who cares about the opinions of these guys when the trump government is being lead by foreign policy giants like the former alcoholic and host of a weekend infotainment show at Fox?

More to the point, aside from being Don's son-in-law and golfing buddy, what expertise did Jared and Steve bring to the negotiating table with Iran? Are they really "all the best people" or people possessing more of the same qualities Don looks for in all subordinates? Unquestioning obedience. Are we to believe, with war in the balance, that a couple of real estate developers gave the US and the world the best chance to avoid another armed conflict in the ME?

Operation Epic Fury, as the administration named its Iran venture, is another matter altogether. The self-appointed president of peace has turned into an emboldened warmaker. This time, he adopted grandiose objectives, including annihilating Iran’s entire military arsenal and threatening the regime to the point of overthrow. The war promptly escalated into a regionwide confrontation that has cost American lives — the predictable product of giving Iran every incentive to retaliate. One struggles to imagine any of Mr. Trump’s predecessors so brazenly and confusedly rolling the dice.

Rolling the dice is an apt description of what Don did. Unilaterally. Unless you count the discussions he had with Bebe. A fellow war monger with everything to gain and not much to lose from this war from a political standpoint. In that regard they're two peas in a pod.

Trumpstein went from "President of Peace" to "Rabid War Hawk" after the release of the Epstein files and after several visits from his Israeli boss. There are two possible scenarios:

Trump is a pathological liar who believes whatever his lips emit at any particular time and he's not able to differentiate between the actual meanings of the words "peace" and "war." He went from "no wars when I'm President" to "we have to end this threat" when there was no threat.

OR

Demonyahu has enough dirt on Trump to convince Trump to do his bidding. There are pictures or videos of Trump committing unspeakable acts. Perhaps criminal in nature.

Is there a third option? Maybe a little of both?

 

[berg80]

Trumpstein went from "President of Peace" to "Rabid War Hawk" after the release of the Epstein files and after several visits from his Israeli boss. There are two possible scenarios:

Trump is a pathological liar who believes whatever his lips emit at any particular time and he's not able to differentiate between the actual meanings of the words "peace" and "war." He went from "no wars when I'm President" to "we have to end this threat" when there was no threat.

OR

Demonyahu has enough dirt on Trump to convince Trump to do his bidding. There are pictures or videos of Trump committing unspeakable acts. Perhaps criminal in nature.

Is there a third option? Maybe a little of both?

With trump idiocy is always an option for any decision he makes. My best guess is going to war is something he is betting on as a last ditch effort to reverse the electoral prospects of R's in the fall. So far it has backfired on the self proclaimed Stable Genius.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Not at the cost of competence.

An Extraordinary President and His Remarkable Cabinet​

An Extraordinary President and His Remarkable Cabinet

An interview with Doris Kearns Goodwin about Lincoln's Team of Rivals Spring 2006, Vol. 38, No. 1 By Ellen Fried Courtesy Simon & Schuster In 1860, prairie lawyer and former one-term congressman Abraham Lincoln stunned the country by prevailing over three prominent rivals—William H. Seward...

www.archives.gov

Lincoln put together a powerhouse cabinet of people with strong views who would challenge his. Because he had confidence in his own knowledge and ability to debate issues based on the facts. Enough confidence to recognize he wasn't necessarily always the smartest guy in the room with the best idea.

trump hates being challenged because he's insecure about the basis for his beliefs. Rightly so since his head is full of horseshit, misinformation, and lies.

Your feelings and emotions have trumped your substance and logic. Feelings.........all I have is feelings........lol.

 

[Lockback]

"President Trump’s attack on Iran is astonishing in its audacity, aggression and lawlessness."

You lost me in the first phucking sentence. Bullshit piled on bullshit.

 

[22lcidw]

Trumpstein went from "President of Peace" to "Rabid War Hawk" after the release of the Epstein files and after several visits from his Israeli boss. There are two possible scenarios:

Trump is a pathological liar who believes whatever his lips emit at any particular time and he's not able to differentiate between the actual meanings of the words "peace" and "war." He went from "no wars when I'm President" to "we have to end this threat" when there was no threat.

OR

Demonyahu has enough dirt on Trump to convince Trump to do his bidding. There are pictures or videos of Trump committing unspeakable acts. Perhaps criminal in nature.

Is there a third option? Maybe a little of both?

Perhaps another. You phuk with him for not reason So he is phukn in return. Whether justified or not, Iran is a problem. This also weakens China. And Trump is rearranging the planet.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Perhaps another. You phuk with him for not reason So he is phukn in return. Whether justified or not, Iran is a problem. This also weakens China. And Trump is rearranging the planet.

There are a LOT of "problems" in the world. But every problem is a nail that needs to be hammered (unless you're an idiot like Conman Trump). We don't just going around bombing these guys and bombing those guys and let's get the other guys while we're at it.

The fact of the matter is that Trump bombed Iran when Israel told him to. Marco Rubio admitted it on national TV. Trump was played like a fiddle.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes. All presidential appointments have to be loyal to the president who appointed them. Wake up! But, are they the best people for the task? Our governing system does not guarantee anything like that.

Maybe you and the brilliant opinionator have heard that the Constitution is not perfect, but it's better than anything other. Does that mean anything to anyone but me?

Read my manifesto.


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There is a difference between "loyalty" and being a "sycophant". While sycophants may be loyal, they are also "yes men" and will go along with whatever Trump wants. That's why they all ended up getting arrested the last time Trump was in office.

Notice how everyone around Trump ends up in jail except him???? They will do anything he tells them he wants. Kristi Noem will be next.

 

[Independent thinker]

Of Course Trump Bombed Iran​

President Trump’s attack on Iran is astonishing in its audacity, aggression and lawlessness. Mr. Trump ordered strikes in the midst of negotiations with a nation that posed no remotely imminent threat to the United States. He did nothing to prepare his country for war. Now he’s offering a dizzying array of rationales and objectives, caught in a maelstrom of his own making.

Beyond breaking with precedent, Mr. Trump also broke with himself. In three straight presidential campaigns, he criticized American military adventures in the Middle East, relying on this stance to distinguish his “America First” mantra from rival Republicans and Democrats alike. “I’m not going to start wars,” he vowed on election night in 2024. “I’m going to stop wars.”

Yet for all its Trumpian characteristics, this war is the logical conclusion of how the United States has long dealt with Iran. For decades, presidents have depicted the Islamic Republic not just as a pernicious presence in the Middle East but also as an intolerable danger to the United States that no diplomatic deal could redress. When politicians inflate a threat and stigmatize peaceful means of handling it, an enterprising leader will one day reach for a radical solution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/iran-trump-war-foreign-policy.html

What is the ulterior motive? Glad you asked. The article was written by..........

Mr. Malley, a lecturer at the Yale Jackson School, served as U.S. special envoy for Iran from 2021 to 2023. Mr. Wertheim is a historian of U.S. foreign policy and an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

trump devotees will likely disregard the opinions of these two as pointy headed liberals, as they do many academics. Who cares about the opinions of these guys when the trump government is being lead by foreign policy giants like the former alcoholic and host of a weekend infotainment show at Fox?

More to the point, aside from being Don's son-in-law and golfing buddy, what expertise did Jared and Steve bring to the negotiating table with Iran? Are they really "all the best people" or people possessing more of the same qualities Don looks for in all subordinates? Unquestioning obedience. Are we to believe, with war in the balance, that a couple of real estate developers gave the US and the world the best chance to avoid another armed conflict in the ME?

Operation Epic Fury, as the administration named its Iran venture, is another matter altogether. The self-appointed president of peace has turned into an emboldened warmaker. This time, he adopted grandiose objectives, including annihilating Iran’s entire military arsenal and threatening the regime to the point of overthrow. The war promptly escalated into a regionwide confrontation that has cost American lives — the predictable product of giving Iran every incentive to retaliate. One struggles to imagine any of Mr. Trump’s predecessors so brazenly and confusedly rolling the dice.

Rolling the dice is an apt description of what Don did. Unilaterally. Unless you count the discussions he had with Bebe. A fellow war monger with everything to gain and not much to lose from this war from a political standpoint. In that regard they're two peas in a pod.

You waste a lot of internet bandwidth. You could have simply said, "Me hate'um Trump". You didn't need all of those words.