I doubt anyone will care, but I thought it was pretty freekin funny!

[Said1]

Stole it from another board:

Je Suis Separatiste!
I am a Quebec Separatist. Some may think that odd, because I'm an Anglo-Ontarian. But I sympathise with the Pequistes. I've felt this way a long time.

In fact, when Lucien Bochard was hospitalized with flesh-eating disease, I sent him a get well card. Not because I admire the man (to be honest I think when one looks at the way he stabbed Mulroney in the back, I think he is completely devoid of honour or intergrity) but because, ultimately, he and I have the same goal. Let's have Canada and Quebec move on with their respective destinys.

I didn't always feel this way. When I was a teenager and subject to Canadian Propaganda in our socialist school system growing up in Toronto, I too believed that "My Canada Includes Quebec." Not anymore though.

Let's be honest. Canadians and Quebecers have virtually nothing in common. We don't speak the same language, enjoy the same entertainment, agree on the same history, or vacation in one another's provinces. In fact, the only things we seem to agree on, are that we don't want to be American, but we love to vacation in Florida.

The fact is that Quebec has been nothing but a drain on Canada since confederation. Financially it is a sinkhole that sucks money from the productive provinces of Ontario and Alberta. Quebec-centric politicians like Chretien, Mulroney, Trudeau etc. have used confederation as an excuse to grease their friend's and constituents palms with hard earned tax dollars from west of the Ottawa river ever since St Laurent ruled was PM in this country.

I for one, am sick to death of working night and day to send cash to Montreal ad agencies, losers like Mirabel airport, the Big Owe, official bilingual projects, etc. This is to say nothing of the favouritism shown not to bilingual applicants, but to FRANCOPHONE applicants, in the hiring for Federal Government jobs. Regardless of language skills, see how far you get in the Federal civil service nowadays without a name like Pelletier, Gagnon or Leduc. Let's also throw in a Quebec-centric military, a Quebec centred, pacifist foreign policy, a Federal Government that lets Quebecers do whatever they want when it comes to the delivery of Health Care in that province while punishing Alberta and BC for trying the exact same things. Oh, how about the the truly Canadian logic of subsidizing winners like Bombardier and Canadair so they can sell a 10 dollar product for 8 dollars a pop? For this massive investment, all the rest of Canada gets is perennial whinging from a group of people who live under the illusion that they're getting screwed by Confederation.

If that sounds harsh, sorry. Reality bites. I'm not without sympathy for Quebecers. I realise they are distinct group of people, who through the fortunes of history, ended up being conquered and that probably sticks in their collective craw a bit. Fair enough. I also recognise that, unlike English speaking Canadians, they have a strong sense of identity founded on something stronger than Anti-Americanism, hockey, and back-bacon sandwiches (did I say back bacon, sorry. I apologise to my multi-cultural Canadian bretheren. I realise that to Muslim Canadians bacon is offensive. I'll try to be respect diversity a little more in the future).

So to 747, and the "lalibertaire" bunch, I say "Bon Chance." You and I have the exact same goal mon ami. The separation process will be hard, but through negotiation I'm sure both sides will come away with something acceptable. Remember one thing though, my Pequiste friends. When that day comes, you will no longer be dealing with a Mr Chretien, or Mulroney, or Trudeau. You will be dealing with a Steven Harper or Preson Manning, backed by a regiment of cold hearted, steely-eyed, Bay Street lawyers.

I'll be cheering you on in '08. Hope we can encourage someone in Brockville to burn a Fluer de Lis in the run up to the vote.

 

[Annie]

Stole it from another board:

I'm in love!

 

[Said1]

I'm in love!

I forgot to post the link, it's to another board, I hope that's ok. Anyway, if you read a few other posts, you will see why I found PE so easy to understand.

http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4444

 

[Wolfe]

Said1
Yes its pretty funny and tragic too. For those quebeckers who are not francophone the rug is slowly being pulled out from underneath us. The irony to me is the laws they use to save the french language when the francophones can barely speak it and write it. My own kids do not loof to quebec as a place they want to stay in. Its inevitable though quebec will be a seperate country soon and canada will be stronger for it.

 

[Said1]

Said1
Yes its pretty funny and tragic too. For those quebeckers who are not francophone the rug is slowly being pulled out from underneath us. The irony to me is the laws they use to save the french language when the francophones can barely speak it and write it. My own kids do not loof to quebec as a place they want to stay in. Its inevitable though quebec will be a seperate country soon and canada will be stronger for it.

That's the truth, bairly understandable slang, and.....well, you know what they think of anglaphones.

Have the language police been scrapped from the provincial budget yet?

 

[Wolfe]

That's the truth, bairly understandable slang, and.....well, you know what they think of anglaphones.

Have the language police been scrapped from the provincial budget yet?

No the language police still exist and I its quite an embarassement to most francophones. Its a snitch law where anonymity is garanteed for any good citizen who spots offending english words. A letter is then sent out to the business threatening them with fines if the english is not removed.
So how can I look at my french speaking coworkers and not wonder if they have "snitched" on someone?
Its almost as though english words are a perversion to them. But in 20 years, in spite of these stupid laws, english will be even more prevalent, that is the power of the english language.

 

[Said1]

No the language police still exist and I its quite an embarassement to most francophones. Its a snitch law where anonymity is garanteed for any good citizen who spots offending english words. A letter is then sent out to the business threatening them with fines if the english is not removed.
So how can I look at my french speaking coworkers and not wonder if they have "snitched" on someone?
Its almost as though english words are a perversion to them. But in 20 years, in spite of these stupid laws, english will be even more prevalent, that is the power of the english language.

Total insanity. I lived in Alberta for many years, coming to Ottawa was a real culture shock, linguistically speaking of course. Sheltering Quebecers from the english language (by LAW!!) will only prove to be detrimental in the end, the limitations imposed on them from bill 101 are seemingly endless. Speaking english is definetly "useful", speaking french properly would help too.

How's the bloc doing, seems like they're making a come back.

 

[Wolfe]

Total insanity. I lived in Alberta for many years, coming to Ottawa was a real culture shock, linguistically speaking of course. Sheltering Quebecers from the english language (by LAW!!) will only prove to be detrimental in the end, the limitations imposed on them from bill 101 are seemingly endless. Speaking english is definetly "useful", speaking french properly would help too.

How's the bloc doing, seems like they're making a come back.

The poll's indicate the Bloc will do well in the upcoming election. Recently the supreme court ruled not to allow francophones in quebec the right to decide which language their kids cold be schooled in. I find it sad that bill 101 has trampled on the right to decide but most francos are too naive to understand this point. They are so afraid to lose french that logic and reason take a back seat in decisions.

 

[Said1]

The poll's indicate the Bloc will do well in the upcoming election.

I had a feeling that was the way things were looking. Lots of anti-Lib protests ect. I never thought I'd see the day when I would be worried about that.

Recently the supreme court ruled not to allow francophones in quebec the right to decide which language their kids cold be schooled in. I find it sad that bill 101 has trampled on the right to decide but most francos are too naive to understand this point. They are so afraid to lose french that logic and reason take a back seat in decisions.

I thought this was already the case, with the exception of children who's parents went to english public schools. Has something been revised to include that? What about private education?

Talk to francos here, and they say the same sort of things "I'm franco first" even though they were born in Ontario or elsewhere. Pinheads.

I wonder what the employment status of Quebecers working in Ontario if they did seperate? Would be good for the economy in Ottawa, but would virtually bankrupt Hull/Gatineau ect.

 

[Wolfe]

I had a feeling that was the way things were looking. Lots of anti-Lib protests ect. I never thought I'd see the day when I would be worried about that.



I thought this was already the case, with the exception of children who's parents went to english public schools. Has something been revised to include that? What about private education?

Talk to francos here, and they say the same sort of things "I'm franco first" even though they were born in Ontario or elsewhere. Pinheads.

I wonder what the employment status of Quebecers working in Ontario if they did seperate? Would be good for the economy in Ottawa, but would virtually bankrupt Hull/Gatineau ect.

If the parents have the money for private school have the right to decide the language of education but not fot the public system.
For families coming to quebec from other provinces they have the right to decide. I have the right to decide because I was schooled in the English system.
Xenophobia is alive and well in Quebec and it is always a case of us and them. That will never change in my opinion.

 

[Said1]

If the parents have the money for private school have the right to decide the language of education but not fot the public system.
For families coming to quebec from other provinces they have the right to decide. I have the right to decide because I was schooled in the English system.
Xenophobia is alive and well in Quebec and it is always a case of us and them. That will never change in my opinion.

So as far as education goes, nothing has changed? Someone just challenged that section of the bill, and lost? Can't say I'm surprised.

So, why stay in Quebec? They've obviously made it as uncomfortable as possible to live there, and do things the way you want. I still can't see how they think obliterating english is going to be a plus? :scratch: